[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojaks

2011-08-26 Thread EricP
Patrick, Sorry, they are 26x2.00 (50s). While more supple may, in theory, roll better, not sure I believe it at actual riding pressure. Otherwise, the fastest bikes out there would be a Surly Pugsley. The 3.8 inch Larry tire is extremely supple. For a light rider, the more supple casing could

[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-26 Thread Kris
Ding ding ding...we have a winner! It's funny we are writing and reading endless books to end up back at this basic idea. "ride more, eat less" It's that simple. On Aug 12, 2:00 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > One huge difference between our mid-20th-century-on and the lives of > even relatively r

[RBW] What Bags work with Nitto F-15 Bar Sack Bag Rack?

2011-08-26 Thread Peter Pesce
This is exactly what drives me nuts about the Barsack and rack combo. You have a bag that only works with one rack, and a rack that's only good for carrying one bag. It seems totally anti-Riv (though I am aware that anything Riv does is, by definition, Riv-ish!) They talk so much about versatili

[RBW] Re: Foss tubes?

2011-08-26 Thread scott
> I did some quick googling and saw some complaints about the tubes blowing at > high pressures This shouldn't be a problem with those of us that use fat tires at lower pressures. S. On Aug 25, 7:55 pm, Dan Abelson wrote: > I did some quick googling and saw some complaints about the tubes blo

Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojaks

2011-08-26 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks; oh well. BTW, Surly is apparently coming out with the Ogre with 100mm rims and 4.7 inch tires: should be the fastest of the lot! On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 4:10 AM, EricP wrote: > Patrick, > > Sorry, they are 26x2.00 (50s).  While more supple may, in theory, roll > better, not sure I believ

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-26 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Have started Taube's book and find it interesting: clearly more is involved that "what goes in and what goes out" -- tho' of course, you can fatten yourself by overeating. On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Kris wrote: > Ding ding ding...we have a winner!  It's funny we are writing and > reading en

[RBW] Re: A pox on fenders!

2011-08-26 Thread Scotty
I have some of the longboard fenders that look stunningly beautiful on my bike but with the widest reccomended tires I could not adjust the rubbing out. After a week of trying I gave up and the fenders are hanging in the garage. Now if the ground is wet I riide my Surly with fenders. This is not

[RBW] Re: What Bags work with Nitto F-15 Bar Sack Bag Rack?

2011-08-26 Thread Ely Rodriguez
The F15 is beautiful and well made, but I agree, it will only fit one bag, unless you make a bag. A traditional rack with P clamps on the legs would be more stable, let the weight sit lower, and will allow you to use any bag you want. The rear tang can be bent down to fit a road caliper. I'll ta

[RBW] Tubing Specs for Riv Frames

2011-08-26 Thread MikeC
I was wondering if anyone has compiled a list of tubing specs for Rivendell's frames. They all seem to use OS but what wall thicknesses, heat treated, manufacturer, etc.? Mike C -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to thi

Re: [RBW] Re: A pox on fenders!

2011-08-26 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Scotty wrote: > I have some of the longboard fenders that look stunningly beautiful on my > bike but with the widest reccomended tires I could not adjust the rubbing > out. After a week of trying I gave up and the fenders are hanging in the > garage. Now if the gr

[RBW] Re: What Bags work with Nitto F-15 Bar Sack Bag Rack?

2011-08-26 Thread joe b.
The Berthoud GB192 bag fits the F-15. http://www.wallbike.com/berthoud/handlebar-bags/berthoud-gb192-handlebar-bag best, joe broach portland, or On Aug 25, 10:08 am, reynoldslugs wrote: > I have a Nitto F-15 mount.  I also have a Sackville BarSack, with > which I'm very happy.  I like the mounti

[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojaks

2011-08-26 Thread bilb
how do kojaks compare to vittoria hypers? I run 32mm 700c hypers and I think they're the bee's knees -- excellent tires that I would recommend to anyone. Peter Pesce wrote: > I asked PW a few months back and they were discontinued. > Now removed from the PJW web page too, apparently. > > -Pete

[RBW] Re: FS: Gilles Berthoud black Handlebar Bag and front and rear black Panniers

2011-08-26 Thread erik
bags are sold thanks! On Aug 21, 8:39 pm, erik wrote: > Prices lowered, this is a great deal for someone: > > Gilles Berthoud black Handlebar Bag and front and rear black Panniers > These are like new, mounted to a bike for one photo shoot and put back > in box. > > Berthoud 2586 black handlebar

[RBW] Re: FS: Gilles Berthoud black Handlebar Bag and front and rear black Panniers

2011-08-26 Thread erik
sold On Aug 24, 7:32 am, "Allingham II, Thomas J" wrote: > Sorry for the blast -- seems PM is not going through.  Robert, if panniers > are available, I'm interested.  Please respond off-board. > > > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > [mailto:rbw-owners-b

[RBW] Re: FS: All Rounder

2011-08-26 Thread bigflax925
Thanks for the comments all. I believe that the frameset and some of the parts have found a new home in Orlando with an esteemed gentleman, who is perhaps on the list. He's taking the frameset, the rear derailleur, racks, bag and stem. As for the cranks - I'm not sure what model Campy they are, bu

Re: [RBW] Re: A pox on fenders!

2011-08-26 Thread Scotty
My AHH has 38mm Schwalbe's and the rubbing is so slight that there is not even any resistance but enough to make a sound that drives me absolutely bonkers. I am not trying to find a solution at this point, they are just off and I am done messing with it. Next time I buy tires I will probably go

[RBW] Tubing Specs for Riv Frames

2011-08-26 Thread Leslie
Depends on which frame, which size of which frame, which maker of the frame (Waterford, Toyo, Nobliette, etc), when the frame was made... Not really sure it'd be quite possible to pin *every* variant down... Any particular frame that you're querying? For example, on cyclofiend's site, the Ram

[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-26 Thread Patrick in VT
On Aug 13, 3:50 am, Brian Hanson wrote: >Exercise may be good for your muscles and a way to release > stress, but it ain't a diet.  Exercise is a fad, a crutch for those with > time/money to kill - like most of us. Of course exercise isn't a diet - rather, it's part of healthy lifestyle. Our

[RBW] Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-26 Thread Earl Grey
Just installed my second pair of these lovely bargains from Riv, and am once again flumoxed by the seemingly superfluous fat philips-headed screw on the straddle wire hanger. The two tiny allen headed screws are to arrest straddle wire movement, okay. Why do you need the third screw? I just looked

[RBW] why do people like front rando bags?

2011-08-26 Thread Shifty
I've been admiring bags and racks on the Rivendell Flicker site: http://www.flickr.com/groups/rivendell/pool/tags/ahomerhilsen/ and have been pondering the purchase of a larger bag. I've used Acorn Saddlebags for awhile now and have been generally content so,why do so many people like front ran

[RBW] Re: It doesn't look bad without fenders, no?

2011-08-26 Thread Earl Grey
I am glad so many people like your bike as is, Patrick, so I don't have to feel so bad saying this: :) I like it too, but since you have the front rack on P-clamps, why not move them lower and bend the rack stays a bit so you can get the rack level? I don't mind the look of bikes without fenders (

[RBW] Re: Rivendell folding bike?

2011-08-26 Thread cm
I am pretty sure that the Bleriot was originally going to be an coupled/ breakaway bike travel bike- hence the airplane theme. I think this was mentioned briefly in the RR maybe sometime around 2003-- not totally sure though. I would guess with the cost of labor and parts, the bad economy, and

[RBW] Re: A pox on fenders!

2011-08-26 Thread dan gee
Don't give up on the Flite yet - I've obliterated the leather in a couple spots on mine, but managed to use Marine Goop between the padding and the leather to glue it back together. Have at least 500 miles on my since 'repairing' it with no discernible (to me) loss of comfort. -Dan On Aug 24, 4:48

Re: [RBW] why do people like front rando bags?

2011-08-26 Thread Kenneth Stagg
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Shifty wrote: > I've been admiring bags and racks on the Rivendell Flicker site: > http://www.flickr.com/groups/rivendell/pool/tags/ahomerhilsen/ and have been > pondering the purchase of a larger bag. I've used Acorn Saddlebags for > awhile now and have been gener

Re: [RBW] Tubing Specs for Riv Frames

2011-08-26 Thread Tim McNamara
On Aug 26, 2011, at 9:56 AM, Leslie wrote: > Depends on which frame, which size of which frame, which maker of the frame > (Waterford, Toyo, Nobliette, etc), when the frame was made... Not really sure > it'd be quite possible to pin *every* variant down... Given that Grant took to mixing and m

[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-26 Thread grant
Taubes stuffs--- There's lots of good stuff in the Red book, as readers are finding out, but the subtext is even more world-changing than the surface stuff. It's not super sub...he implies as much...but once you digest it all and buy into it, your view of the world (at least, of fat people) flip-f

Re: [RBW] Tubing Specs for Riv Frames

2011-08-26 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/26/11 7:25 AM, MikeC at mecinib...@sbcglobal.net wrote: > I was wondering if anyone has compiled a list of tubing specs for > Rivendell's frames. They all seem to use OS but what wall thicknesses, > heat treated, manufacturer, etc.? I've never pulled together a list of such specs, but I'm no

Re: [RBW] Tubing Specs for Riv Frames

2011-08-26 Thread newenglandbike
While tubing names may not matter among high-quality tubes, I think wall thickness can be good to know, especially with OS tubing which IMO can be dent-prone if the walls are too thin.There's a post on the Rivendell site somewhere about the specs for the AHH- IIRC it has 8/5/8 top and down

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell folding bike?

2011-08-26 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/25/11 7:30 AM, cm at chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: I am pretty sure that the Bleriot was originally going to be an coupled/ breakaway bike travel bike- hence the airplane theme. I think this was mentioned briefly in the RR maybe sometime around 2003-- not totally sure though. I would guess

[RBW] Re: why do people like front rando bags?

2011-08-26 Thread Peter Pesce
There are some benefits to the front bag, depending on your needs. It's not necessary to use "only" a front bag, and many people combine front and rear as needed. Among the benefits are the ability to easily get things from the bag while you are riding, the ability to see your bag at all times (

Re: [RBW] Tubing Specs for Riv Frames

2011-08-26 Thread Jim Mather
When I asked Mark about the Legolas and Roadeo a few months ago, he showed me the spec sheet they sent to the builders. The Legolas and Roadeo have the same tubing for top and seat tubes, fork blades and chain stays. The Legolas downtube is slightly heavier at .7/.5/.7 vs .65/.45/65 for the Roadeo.

Re: [RBW] Re: why do people like front rando bags?

2011-08-26 Thread Kenneth Stagg
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Peter Pesce wrote: > There are some benefits to the front bag, depending on your needs. It's not > necessary to use "only" a front bag, and many people combine front and rear > as needed. Among the benefits are the ability to easily get things from the > bag while

[RBW] Re: Someone was looking for a 58cm Atlantis (not the coupled black one)

2011-08-26 Thread Eric
I was looking for a 56cm But I'm going out to Riv next month so I might just have to break out the pimp roll. On Aug 26, 1:14 am, Joe Bernard wrote: > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/2566108555.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owne

[RBW] Re: Rivendell folding bike?

2011-08-26 Thread GeorgeS
I have a Surly Traveler's Check which is the S&S coupled CrossCheck. I also have a Brompton. These are entirely different bikes with, IMO, very different functions. The Brompton folds up in less than 2 minutes and can be thrown into even a very small car trunk or it can be put in a bag and checke

Re: [RBW] why do people like front rando bags?

2011-08-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 19:29 -0700, Shifty wrote: > I've been admiring bags and racks on the Rivendell Flicker site: > http://www..flickr.com/groups/rivendell/pool/tags/ahomerhilsen/ and > have been pondering the purchase of a larger bag. I've used Acorn > Saddlebags for awhile now and have been gen

[RBW] Re: Someone was looking for a 58cm Atlantis (not the coupled black one)

2011-08-26 Thread Michael_S
I was looking for a 58 Atlantis... since decided to go with a new custom ( Non-Riv) to get the exact features I prefer. That's a pretty good deal except I'd have to get rid of the all shimaNo stuff and replace it with Suntour or Campy. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscr

[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-26 Thread Patrick in VT
On Aug 26, 11:43 am, grant wrote: > Every television commercial for Honey Nut Cheerios reinforces > the wrong message. just about every television commercial reinforces the wrong message, regardless of subject matter. Honey Nut Cheerios seem relatively innocuous when it comes to the food being p

[RBW] Re: What Bags work with Nitto F-15 Bar Sack Bag Rack?

2011-08-26 Thread Jim Cloud
There aren't a lot of "off-the-shelf" mounting systems for handlebar bags that Rivendell could have chosen for their "Barsack". If you start with a premise that Rivendell wanted to produce a handlebar bag that would fit many bikes that they sell, without having to make bags sized to the headtube (

RE: [RBW] why do people like front rando bags?

2011-08-26 Thread Larry Powers
I can agree with all that has been said and will add that I have many put miles on my Rambouillet using one of the largest Berthoud handle bar bags. The key here is that bikes are optimized for certain things but this doesn't mean that aren't adequate for others. I do notice the bag when clim

Re: [RBW] Tubing Specs for Riv Frames

2011-08-26 Thread Rex Kerr
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 7:25 AM, MikeC wrote: > They all seem to use OS but what wall thicknesses, > heat treated, manufacturer, etc.? > They definitely use OS tubing on the AHH. I kept looking at my AHH and wondering why the head tube looked so much shorter and the frame looked so much smaller

[RBW] Re: why do people like front rando bags?

2011-08-26 Thread Ian Dickson
Like everyone else, I like the convenience of having the bag right in front of me. I can get into the bag while I'm riding, but it's also great when I'm stopped. It's especially handy for getting a camera out quickly. Also, I think the rectangular shape allows a more efficient use of space, so a

[RBW] Re: What Bags work with Nitto F-15 Bar Sack Bag Rack?

2011-08-26 Thread Peter Pesce
No doubt that the Nitto rack is a fine piece of bike jewellery. I've no doubt it will mount to most bars easily. Though you probably want to take it off when you're not using the bag, since it serves no other function and looks like it would be pointy and menacing. I guess I just don't understan

[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-26 Thread Philip Williamson
If you don't eat meat, can you eat as Taubes prescribes? And... if you want to get the word out in a non-confrontational way, you could print tee-shirts with a written explanation on the back. People will read it in the supermarket checkout line. That's where I've gotten 90% of the comments on the

[RBW] Re: why do people like front rando bags?

2011-08-26 Thread Michael Hechmer
I've tried them all and the all have pluses and minuses. A front mounted Acorn Rondo bag has absolutely no impact on the handling of my Rambouillet, and I like having the map reader and easy access to food, etc. I have used a Carradice Barley for commuting and liked that too. The Carradice Lo

[RBW] Re: It doesn't look bad without fenders, no?

2011-08-26 Thread Minh
Man, after spending the last few hours wrestling with fender line (still not done) after putting on a new campee front rack, i'm giving second thoughts to the fender thing :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this gr

[RBW] Re: why do people like front rando bags?

2011-08-26 Thread Mike
The first year I randonneured I used a Carradice Barley bag to hold my gear and attached to cue sheet to a clip on my handlebars. This was okay but not idea. Since then, 3yrs, I've been using a Berthoud front bag, the big one as I ride a 63cm Hilsen. I used it mounted on a Mark's Rack with a Bertho

Re: [RBW] why do people like front rando bags?

2011-08-26 Thread Forrest
Ken -- I'd like to know more about how you adapted your Arkel Big Bar Bags to fit on front racks. Not so tough to affix them semi-permanently, but I'm looking for an elegant solution for quick on-and-off using a rack. I do not like the Arkel system for affixing the bag to the handlebar, though

[RBW] My first S24O

2011-08-26 Thread Zack
Went on my first S24O this week on my new Sam. I rode from Burlington to Jerusalem and camped in the Camel's Hump State Forest. This is what I brought: Slickersack Trangia cookset Book to read Wi

[RBW] Re: What Bags work with Nitto F-15 Bar Sack Bag Rack?

2011-08-26 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
I have some niggling reservations about the F-15 rack as well. A couple of things about the BarSack really shine for me, though: Ease of mid-ride access. Just lift the lid, grab what you want without having to modify your posture substantially, and drop the lid. It's really nice. Those magnets

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-26 Thread Eric Daume
That's the point of the book: this isn't universally accepted. We've been pushed this viewpoint for 30 years, but where's the great downsizing of America? One of Taubes main points is that the science behind low fat/high fiber/calories in/calories out is very, very poor. Eric Daume Dublin, OH On

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 17:11 -0400, Eric Daume wrote: > That's the point of the book: this isn't universally accepted. We've > been pushed this viewpoint for 30 years, but where's the great > downsizing of America? One of Taubes main points is that the science > behind low fat/high fiber/calories in

Re: [RBW] why do people like front rando bags?

2011-08-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 12:47 -0700, Forrest wrote: > Ken -- I'd like to know more about how you adapted your Arkel Big Bar > Bags to fit on front racks. Not so tough to affix them > semi-permanently, but I'm looking for an elegant solution for quick > on-and-off using a rack. I do not like the Arke

Re: [RBW] Re: why do people like front rando bags?

2011-08-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 12:39 -0700, Mike wrote: > I should add that it's important to have > a properly sized front bag. I use the tallest Berthoud bike because my > bikes are big. With a shorter bag it just doesn't look right to me but > it's also harder to read the cue sheet. Me, too: 59 & 60 cm

Re: [RBW] Re: It doesn't look bad without fenders, no?

2011-08-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 12:00 -0700, Minh wrote: > Man, after spending the last few hours wrestling with fender line > (still not done) after putting on a new campee front rack, i'm giving > second thoughts to the fender thing :) It can be difficult, especially if the bike wasn't built with proper

Re: [RBW] why do people like front rando bags?

2011-08-26 Thread Kenneth Stagg
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > No idea about how Arkel bags work, but the Nashbar Elite comes with a > plastic KlickFix type bracket that I think may be similar.  I adapted a > Nashbar Elite bag for use with a Velo Orange decaleur by drilling out > the rivets and remov

Re: [RBW] My first S24O

2011-08-26 Thread Robert F. Harrison
That's almost the exact setup that I use (minus the warm weather gear) on with my QB - SaddleSack, SlickerSack, Hennessey, and Trangia. Works pretty well. Sounds like a great first go round. Aloha, Bob On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Zack wrote: > Went on my first S24O this week on my new Sa

[RBW] Re: My first S24O

2011-08-26 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Again with the SaddleSack Large! You are killing me, man! :) It doesn't help that I used to have a tweed Mini-Bar bag too (yours looks like the Mini-Bar in the photo... is it actually a Keven's?)... but I confess I don't miss it as much as I do that SaddleSack Large. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean

Re: [RBW] Re: It doesn't look bad without fenders, no?

2011-08-26 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The struts are welded to the top, and they are tubular stainless steel: how can I bend them without either breaking them off or crimping them? On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Earl Grey wrote: > I am glad so many people like your bike as is, Patrick, so I don't > have to feel so bad saying this:

[RBW] My first S24O

2011-08-26 Thread Peter Pesce
Zack Beautiful bike. Man, every detail on that is so sweet. I would have fainted if I opened a box from Riv and saw that! I have never bike camped (best I can manage is a "Sub 2-to-4 Hour" ride) so at first it looked like an awful lot of baggage, but there's nothing on your list you could omit,

[RBW] Re: My first S24O

2011-08-26 Thread EastBayGuy
Zach, Great Bike and Congrats on your first S240. They become easier and easier each time you do one. Congrats Dustin G Walnut Creek Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://g

[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-26 Thread charlie
I think not.and this is coming from an exercise junkie with a whole foods, half hippie wife and years of trying everythingweighing my food, portion control, whole grains, calorie counting, tofu, low fat, largely vegetarian at times, extreme exercise (do you want me to explain the volume and

[RBW] Re: It doesn't look bad without fenders, no?

2011-08-26 Thread charlie
Nice looking Patrickeven without the fenders ! It rains in my neck of the wood too much to leave them off and of course all that nasty dry road junk stays off me and the bike too. But no fenders give you more room for bigger tires and mud. ; ) On Aug 25, 3:14 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Af

Re: [RBW] Re: It doesn't look bad without fenders, no?

2011-08-26 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks for all the reassurance. I dunno, the VO rack may be next to go. I've got a nice custom front rack on the Herse, a Tubus front lowrider rack on the Fargo, and I don't really need one on this Riv; we'll see. On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 9:40 PM, charlie wrote: > Nice looking Patrickeven

Re: [RBW] Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-26 Thread Shaun Meehan
Gernot, I am equally baffled. I've got a pair of those cable hangers on my Atlantis and I removed those screws. Mostly out of spite. Shaun Meehan On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Earl Grey wrote: > Just installed my second pair of these lovely bargains from Riv, and > am once again flumoxed b

Re: [RBW] Re: A pox on fenders!

2011-08-26 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks, Dan; I'll try that: the saddle is still comfortable and I have nothing to lose but the last few miles of comfort. On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 9:03 AM, dan gee wrote: > Don't give up on the Flite yet - I've obliterated the leather in a > couple spots on mine, but managed to use Marine Goop bet

Re: [RBW] Re: It doesn't look bad without fenders, no?

2011-08-26 Thread Ely Rodriguez
I was thinking of using that rack on a road bike without braze ons. Any issues with it? Using the p-clamps? i would use a small/medium handlebar bag on 200k's with that set up. My fork is 45mm rake with a 73 head tube angle, and 42 handlebars, 700x23 tires. So road geometry. The rack is on sale ri

[RBW] Headland Velo Show in Madison, Wi

2011-08-26 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Dawn and I just arrived. Brought the bikes for a ride tomorrow and Sunday, plus visit the show ect. If any group members are in the ares we would enjoy meeting up for ride or just visit at the bike show Kelly and Dawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou

Re: [RBW] Re: A pox on fenders!

2011-08-26 Thread Kelly Sleeper
My wife's Atlantis had the long boards with 40's. No rubs and looks good to boot. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JgE-78zNk

[RBW] Heartland Velo Show in Madison, Wi

2011-08-26 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Should of been heartland not headlands .. Dang iPad typing -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Yp3B47817o0J. To post to this group, sen

[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-26 Thread S.Cutshall
That's the rub & crux right there in the World of The Fat Person--- 99.8% of all advice, suggestions, How-To's, solutions and False Hope come from -either- The Thin or Slightly Pudgified. I prefer my knowledge and/or advice to come from the inhabitants of the trenches. And there aren't many... so

[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-26 Thread charlie
I can dig it Scott.and I have to tell you I have been inspired by your determination. Your willingness to keep at it day after day, especially while enduring the negative and sometimes even smug comments from others. I know what gets me fat and I know when I'm weak. I've been enduring the comm