On Aug 26, 2011, at 9:56 AM, Leslie wrote:

> Depends on which frame, which size of which frame, which maker of the frame 
> (Waterford, Toyo, Nobliette, etc), when the frame was made... Not really sure 
> it'd be quite possible to pin *every* variant down...


Given that Grant took to mixing and matching tube sets for the customs years 
ago (you might get a Tange top tube, Reynolds seat tube, Columbus stays, etc.) 
it would be impossible without a comprehensive review of the records for every 
frame.  The "production" frames are different, they use tube sets.  Grant specs 
tubes conservatively with longevity in mind.

Other than idle curiosity, I'm not sure it matters anyway.  Princess and the 
pea reviewers- who usually find what they expect to find- aside, blind tests 
have almost always shown that riders can't tell one tube set from another 
reliably.

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