I'm still perplexed by waterford. When the AHH was new, and being
built exclusively by Waterford, I tried to order one with canti studs
and a crown braze-on to screw a metal fender into, and the quote for
that was also $500. That's how I ended up with the Ebisu All
Purpose. Anyway, I'm sure thes
Although the RacerM appears to weigh more than your Mafac Racers.
113g per wheel for braze on.
By the way, I checked out Shimano Ultegra Caliper weight: 294g per
caliper. Not sure how much the braze on posts weight, but I doubt it
would be much more, if as much, as the differenced between RacerM
Admittedly do not have a good scale, but the cable, hanger and bolt on
my Mafac Racers(all3sets)/Competition/Raids are heavier than Paul
components. Raids feel heavier than regular Paul Racers. Mafac
Competition calipers alone are pretty light.
On Mar 27, 3:18 pm, Jason Hartman wrote:
> On Sat,
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:43 PM, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > If I remember it right, the Rodeo is built to the lightest configuration
> as
> > Grant "the conservative" would allow it. Thus, to save weight, even
> though
> > minimal but at least weight-saving, there will be no cantis and no DT
> studs
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>
> > Better yet, just have the unpainted bike sent to Nobilette and have him
&g
m
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> Better yet, just have the unpainted bike sent to Nobilette and have him
> braze
bikes in carbon, aluminum and titanium.
n Rene
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Better yet
Better yet, just have the unpainted bike sent to Nobilette and have him
braze them on. Wait time could be a hassle, but the extra shipping would
still vastly outweigh W'Ford's upcharge. Sheesh, it's not like've never
done canti posts before. In fact whatever set up for the first Racer posts
ther
I don't understand the Waterford thing either. I don't know about the stays,
but the tubes I know about on the Roadeo aren't exactly super light and
thin, unless you are comparing them to the Bombadil.
At at least as stout as the Rambo, and stouter than the Legolas, I think, at
least in the bigger
On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 03:45 -0700, Marty wrote:
> And I'm not sure why the Bombadil and Hunqapillar both have DT shifter
> bosses standard, when they are so right for bar-ends or thumbies, yet
> the Roadeo does not. Hmmm
>
> If it's true that the Paul brakes can overpower the stays or fork
> blade
And I'm not sure why the Bombadil and Hunqapillar both have DT shifter
bosses standard, when they are so right for bar-ends or thumbies, yet
the Roadeo does not. Hmmm
If it's true that the Paul brakes can overpower the stays or fork
blades and cause a twist, (I'm only guessing here given that Paul
Oh, and the reason I say too bad if true is that at first the word
from Riv was no DT braze ons for the Roadeo. Now it is an option. If
demand is there, Riv may well find a way to convince Waterford the
folly of its ways.
On Mar 26, 4:45 pm, JoelMatthews wrote:
> Well, that is too bad if true.
>
Well, that is too bad if true.
The Brazeons modulate better than centerposts.
Too strong would never be an issue. Pauls have near infinite and very
easy adjustability. Once you get the hang of it, in a matter of
minutes you can set the brakes where they will throw you over the
handlebars with b
Speculating is fun, but I called and asked Keven for the answer. I've
talked with him a few times about a Roadeo maybe next year, so I asked
how it would work if I wanted Paul Racer posts. He said Waterford is
violently opposed to posts. He asked them previously to do it for a
customer and they
> There's a post-mount version, so you don't need special braze-ons.
> Though, to maximize function/purpose, the brazeons are the way to go.
I have experienced original Racers in post mount and braze on. The
post mounts are probaby better than 99% of what is out there today.
The Brazeons are that
There's a post-mount version, so you don't need special braze-ons.
Though, to maximize function/purpose, the brazeons are the way to go.
-Gino
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Michael_S wrote:
> Boy those polished ones are the cats pajama's!
>
> will Riv add the braze on's to the Roadeo? I can
On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 12:31 -0700, stevep33 wrote:
> Does anyone know if these operate with the amount of cable pull from
> standard road levers?
Yes they do, same as the longer reach Paul Racers.
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> will Riv add the braze on's to the Roadeo? I can't tell from your
> "conversation"?
Purely wishfull thinking on my point.
However, these brakes are so in line with Riv design and philosophy I
really think some of the stock bikes should offer this as an option.
Leastways the higher end U.S. bui
Boy those polished ones are the cats pajama's!
will Riv add the braze on's to the Roadeo? I can't tell from your
"conversation"?
~Mike~
On Mar 26, 11:00 am, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > "Hello, Keven? It's me Bill, can you sell me a bike to fit these
> > brakes? A Roadeo? Sounds perfecto!
>
> "H
> "Hello, Keven? It's me Bill, can you sell me a bike to fit these
> brakes? A Roadeo? Sounds perfecto!
"How much to add braze on mounting posts? $25.00 per post? I am in
heaven!
On Mar 26, 12:05 pm, William wrote:
> Those are swank! I can't afford not to have a set.
>
> "Hello, Keven? It
Thanks for the heads up, I've been thinking of treating my '03
Rambouillet to some new clothes - brakes and crank. I've been waiting
for these.
Michael
On Mar 26, 10:52 am, Marty wrote:
> Very nice option for many builds. Fits 45mm fenders with no brake arm
> interference!
>
> http://www.paulco
Those are swank! I can't afford not to have a set.
"Hello, Keven? It's me Bill, can you sell me a bike to fit these
brakes? A Roadeo? Sounds perfecto!
On Mar 26, 7:52 am, Marty wrote:
> Very nice option for many builds. Fits 45mm fenders with no brake arm
> interference!
>
> http://www.paulc
Thanks for the heads up Marty. Good news indeed!
On Mar 26, 8:52 am, Marty wrote:
> Very nice option for many builds. Fits 45mm fenders with no brake arm
> interference!
>
> http://www.paulcomp.com/racerm.html
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