I'm still perplexed by waterford. When the AHH was new, and being built exclusively by Waterford, I tried to order one with canti studs and a crown braze-on to screw a metal fender into, and the quote for that was also $500. That's how I ended up with the Ebisu All Purpose. Anyway, I'm sure these are great brakes. I have the neos on the Ebisu and love them and am about to take possession of a Bilenky tandem with posted racers. I look forward to adding these to my Rambouillet. As for 33.3 and fenders; I don't think the fender width or brake is the limiting factor on that frame; it's the fork blade length not leaving enough height for fenders and the 33.
I think in the last decade there has been a real surge in really good American made components and I'm glad to support that. These brakes are expensive but I expect them to out live me. Michael On Mar 27, 6:16 pm, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > Although the RacerM appears to weigh more than your Mafac Racers. > 113g per wheel for braze on. > > By the way, I checked out Shimano Ultegra Caliper weight: 294g per > caliper. Not sure how much the braze on posts weight, but I doubt it > would be much more, if as much, as the differenced between RacerM and > Ultegras. > > So goes one more reason not to make a braze on version of the > Roadeo. > > On Mar 27, 4:45 pm, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > > > > > Admittedly do not have a good scale, but the cable, hanger and bolt on > > my Mafac Racers(all3sets)/Competition/Raids are heavier than Paul > > components. Raids feel heavier than regular Paul Racers. Mafac > > Competition calipers alone are pretty light. > > > On Mar 27, 3:18 pm, Jason Hartman <rjasonhart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:43 PM, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > If I remember it right, the Rodeo is built to the lightest > > > > > configuration > > > > as > > > > > Grant "the conservative" would allow it. Thus, to save weight, even > > > > though > > > > > minimal but at least weight-saving, there will be no cantis and no DT > > > > studs. > > > > > Much like the racer road bikes in carbon, aluminum and titanium. > > > > > You have a point. Although my counter is that the Racer is a modern > > > > (and lighter) version of the Mafac Competition, a brake that was on > > > > several Tour de France winners in the 1980s. > > > > I don't think you can get much lighter than the Mafacs. > > > I just weighed a complete front Mafac racer without pads and it was 142 g. > > > I then made them braze-on ready by removing the center bolt back plate > > > and they weighed only 86g. > > > > Jay Hartman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
