[RBW] Re: Who swaps out wheel sets to keep from buying new bikes?

2018-03-28 Thread Bill Lindsay
Inevitably when I run an extra set of wheels for a bike, I end up buying another frame to go with the wheels. Wheels are the gateway drug for N+1. :) BL in EC On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 8:44:00 PM UTC-7, tc wrote: > > I was reading this great article >

[RBW] Re: FS Sackville and Brooks

2018-03-28 Thread Max S
Let me know if this is breaching etiquette somehow, but... If someone wants a Medium Sackville but in a different colorway, maybe we can do a 3-way trade – I’ve got a Medium in olive-ish (with a leather bottom, no less!) and the pouch, that I wouldn’t mind trading for a gray. So, if you want a M

Re: [RBW] Bar-swapping: Drops out, Jitensha bars in

2018-03-28 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I have a Cowchipper on my Roadeo and like it a lot. I went nuts and used a Woodchipper on my road bikes for a while. They are really funky with a super wide flare. I've done double centuries with the Woodchipper and never felt like I was miserable in the headwinds because of the bars. Only beca

[RBW] Who swaps out wheel sets to keep from buying new bikes?

2018-03-28 Thread tc
I was reading this great article on "Chasing Mailboxes" about Kevin Turinsky and his Atlantis. He mentioned he kept 3 sets of wheels for it to exploit the frame's versatility. That got me to thinking, how man

[RBW] Re: OT FS/FT: Leica/Leitz Wetzlar Summicron-C 40mm f2 lens for Leica/Minolta CL camera

2018-03-28 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
Additional trade interests include: Sackville Barsack and F15 rack Mark’s Hub Area racks 48cm Nitto Noodle 52cm Nitto RM-013 dirt drop (25.4 or 26.0) 8cm Nitto dirt drop stem Front generator hubs/wheels (700c/29er wheels for my Clem H) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to t

[RBW] Re: Bar-swapping: Drops out, Jitensha bars in

2018-03-28 Thread Ron Mc
Really like how the colors blended, and the bag ties them together. Yes, Paul brake levers are the very best. Everybody needs at least one bike with upright bars, but the angles on this bar shape makes for totally relaxed arms and wrists - and great control - I can corner very hard on this b

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
And to get myself back on topic: The new Atlantis looks great! Million dollar t-shirt idea: *Nuovo* Atlantis: *Don't* Poster with bicycles, Eduoard Vuillar

[RBW] OT FS/FT: Leica/Leitz Wetzlar Summicron-C 40mm f2 lens for Leica/Minolta CL camera

2018-03-28 Thread Michael Morrissey
Will it mount on micro four thirds? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, sen

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Well, not really. The definition is "fear of empty space." While Mario Praz may have meant it in a derogatory sense when he used it to describe Victorian interiors, the phrase in itself is not making an aesthetic judgement. And I've actually come to appreciate the chaos of the more extreme Vic

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Austin B.
Tim, thanks for the kind words. I like yours too--it appears we have the same exact frame! I like to tinker with my builds, the Sam is so versatile so I'm constantly experimenting. I may have to pick up a pair of Barlow EL's for it--I keep hearing people like you say they're the perfect match.

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Tim Bantham
Austin, nice build! All versions of your Sam look great. Part of what makes it such an awesome bike is the many build option it allows. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving email

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Austin
I'm one who's just now experimenting with upright bars for the first time--the Albastache's I picked up during the hail mary that are now on my Sam. I found experimenting with a shorter stem made things a bit more comfortable so I taped them up last night. Teal Newbaums with 1 coat of amber she

[RBW] Re: FS Sackville and Brooks

2018-03-28 Thread Steve Butcher
Lots of looks but no responses so I'll knock my price down to $180.00 for the Saddlesack and $80.00 for the B67; shipping included CONUS. I'd take $250.00 for both in a package deal. Steve Butcher Stockton, Missouri On Sunday, March 25, 2018 at 10:00:31 AM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote: > > > <

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Tim Bantham
Patrick, I'm not sure if mine was one that you had commented on but if so I thank you for the compliment. Mine was purchased in 2016. It was the version prior to the canti Sam available now. The paint on mine is a stock color. More of a light blue and cream two tone. Looks amazing in person. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread dougP
You've boiled it down to its essence. dougP On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 4:03:21 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > Not without the bread, it's not. On its own, a hot dog ain't nothin' > but a sausage. > > > On 03/28/2018 05:35 PM, Christopher Murray wrote: > > Of course a hot dog is a s

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto 48cm Noodle Handlebar/ Nitto 100mm Stem $75/pair + shipping

2018-03-28 Thread Paul M
On Wednesday, 28 March 2018 16:14:43 UTC-7, Paul M wrote: Thanks but the bar and stem have sold. > > > > On Wednesday, 28 March 2018 14:18:04 UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote: >> >> PM sent! >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. T

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto 48cm Noodle Handlebar/ Nitto 100mm Stem $75/pair + shipping

2018-03-28 Thread Paul M
On Wednesday, 28 March 2018 14:18:04 UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote: > > PM sent! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
Not without the bread, it's not.  On its own, a hot dog ain't nothin' but a sausage. On 03/28/2018 05:35 PM, Christopher Murray wrote: Of course a hot dog is a sandwich! Chris -- Steve Palincsar Alexandria, Virginia USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Ebay Outing (Mine): '95 Rivendell Road 58.5cm

2018-03-28 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
I was admiring your bike this morning! Came up on my eBay search notification. Lovely lugs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunc

[RBW] Bar-swapping: Drops out, Jitensha bars in

2018-03-28 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
I have the Jitenhas on my Quickbeam. I’ve totally gotten away from drops and am a total convert to alt bars. I like them - a lot! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
Sir, I disagree with everything you’ve said! Ha! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to t

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread Christopher Murray
Of course a hot dog is a sandwich! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this gr

[RBW] FS: Nitto 48cm Noodle Handlebar/ Nitto 100mm Stem $75/pair + shipping

2018-03-28 Thread Reid Echols
PM sent! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch

[RBW] OT FS/FT: Leica/Leitz Wetzlar Summicron-C 40mm f2 lens for Leica/Minolta CL camera

2018-03-28 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
The recent Leica diversion on the MIT Atlantis thread just triggered an idea... and although off topic, not by far considering the Riv & film photography connection and my proposed arrangement: For those of you that shoot film and/or collect cameras/Leica stuff, anyone interested in buying a Le

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Carla Waugh
On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 3:20:41 PM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote: > > Here are front/rear clearance shots on my ‘09 canti Sam (56cm) with 42 > Soma Shikoros. I’ve run 47mm Marathons without issue, too. Been very > curious about the 48mm Supple Vitesse. Can anyone compare them to Shikoros? > > Al

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Carla Waugh
On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 3:42:40 PM UTC-5, Carla Waugh wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 3:20:41 PM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote: >> >> Here are front/rear clearance shots on my ‘09 canti Sam (56cm) with 42 >> Soma Shikoros. I’ve run 47mm Marathons without issue, too. Been very >> cu

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread Joe Bernard
One more note: Hot dogs are not a sandwich. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this g

[RBW] Re: Atlantis-to-Poster (need not be long thread, just saying this)

2018-03-28 Thread Joe Bernard
I sold my poster years ago in an inexplicable fit of "I guess I'll never hang it"..bad idea! I'd love to get another shot at one. Joe Bernard Novato CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and s

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread lconley
Older Sam 56 with Schwalbe Big Ben 50s. Too much inflation pressure and the front tire can rub on the center pull. This bike wanted cantis. Not quite as

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread Bob Lovejoy
Agreed, excellent summation! Hopefully it is ok with Eamon to use his notes when studying for the test... I am thinking there is going to be a test, just has to be... right? Anyway, I do applaud Riv for sticking to its design convictions and direction. I kind of wish I needed the new Atlantis!

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread Mike Williams
I like Eamons summary Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 28, 2018, at 2:48 PM, 'Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch > wrote: > > Who knew this thread would end up discussing foot long hot dogs and Leica's? > > So, to sum up: > - The old Atlantis is still available at the old price > - The new Atl

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread 'Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch
Who knew this thread would end up discussing foot long hot dogs and Leica's? So, to sum up: - The old Atlantis is still available at the old price - The new Atlantis is probably a fantastic bike, a lot more affordable with no drop in quality, maybe subjectively better in certain areas - Some folk

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread Ryan Merrill
Ha...you got that right. We haven't even begun to touch the lenses. On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 1:05:30 PM UTC-5, Ian A wrote: > Alright - but which iteration of the M4 was king? The original M4 or one > of the post M5 reissued M4 models? And if so which one? > > This is a slippery slope fo

[RBW] Re: Atlantis-to-Poster (need not be long thread, just saying this)

2018-03-28 Thread Ryan Merrill
Looking forward to a new poster...I just recently picked up a Clem and a Sam poster from y'all to go with my original Riv/Goines poster; a new one will fit in wonderfully. I'm looking forward to the catalog too. On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 10:49:40 AM UTC-5, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > So

[RBW] Bar-swapping: Drops out, Jitensha bars in

2018-03-28 Thread Bill Lindsay
Handlebar swapping is one of those eternally noble pursuits. Like many of you, all paths tend to lead back to drops, but still I try to keep open minded about things. For context, I think Noodles are fantastic, and I have Noodles or Soba Noodles on several bikes. I also really love Compass

[RBW] FS: Albastache, 80mm Technomic, B17 Honey

2018-03-28 Thread Bob K.
Sold! Thanks for the interest, folks. Bob K. in Baltimore -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread Ian A
Alright - but which iteration of the M4 was king? The original M4 or one of the post M5 reissued M4 models? And if so which one? This is a slippery slope for sure! IanA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread Ryan Merrill
Alright...I'm just going to say it...the Leica M4 was and still is king. On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 5:57:25 AM UTC-5, Max S wrote: > > This longer chainstay model is still very much within the dominant design > envelope of a chain driven bicycle. We are, like true devotees, splitting > hai

[RBW] Re: Mt Tam Hunqs

2018-03-28 Thread jenny klug
that's a hunqa hunqa burnin' love if i ever saw one. (sorry, someone had to say it, might as well be me.) --jenny @ RBW On Monday, March 26, 2018 at 1:13:19 PM UTC-7, Kurt Manley wrote: > > 4 Hunqs from yesterdays ride on Mt Tamalpais in Marin, CA. Thought you > might enjoy. > > > > >

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread adam leibow
the quoted clearance with the new canti sams is 47mm. i think the wtb riddler might be the perfect tire for this bike. i have a new one in sage & 58 which has been a blast and the perfect commuter. i have learned what the OP has said about straddling niches is slightly true. it's not as light/n

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Reid Echols
My canti Sam (64cm) clears 48 Soma Vitesse tires with ease, if not with fenders. I like to run it with 42-43s usually though. Currently it's a single speed with Bruce Gordon rock n' roads, a heavy duty mountain wheelset I had from another build, v-brakes, and flipped albas. Very fun for "path

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Carla Waugh
I have last years model and can’t remember how wide a tire with side pull brakes I can run. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch

[RBW] Re: Atlantis-to-Poster (need not be long thread, just saying this)

2018-03-28 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I look forward to seeing a new RBW poster! On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 10:49:40 AM UTC-5, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > Some of these questions or just unclear-confusing-redundancy things, like > why both the JoeAppa and Atla will be made clearer in the catalog. > > On another note, this t

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Patrick Moore
Paul and Carla and others: Please do post Sam photos. Yes, we need a Sam's Club. Paul: If yours can take 51 m tires, then the design was indeed changed from my model. On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Paul Choi wrote: > I run a 42 Panaracer Gravelking on mine (51cm) with room. I will post a > p

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Paul Choi
I run a 42 Panaracer Gravelking on mine (51cm) with room. I will post a picture later if you want. On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 7:55:32 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Also: Where are the Sam and the Atlantis different? I know that the > original Atlantis was a sort of touring/heavy duty

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread Trenker
I think some of you are missing the main point. The extra-long chainstay is kind of like the foot-long hot dog. Now let’s say you’ve got a big strong man, maybe he’s been on a diet and he’s kind of angry because of that; to him, the foot-long hot dog makes perfect sense. Just like it make

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Carla Waugh
My 55cm Sam is a favorite of mine because it’s just plain comfortable. I have a standard drop bar build with a EDelux light and hub combo. The reason I grab this bike almost every time is it’s versatility. I can ride on pavement, grass or light gravel with Compass tires. The parts Riv put on my

[RBW] Atlantis-to-Poster (need not be long thread, just saying this)

2018-03-28 Thread Grant Petersen
Some of these questions or just unclear-confusing-redundancy things, like why both the JoeAppa and Atla will be made clearer in the catalog. On another note, this time about the Rivendell - David Lance Goines poster: DLG used the same printing device (press?) for almost 50 years, and it was about

[RBW] Re: Thomson Elite Seatpost -- 26.8 -- with New Sam H.: Seems... Small...?

2018-03-28 Thread Jock Dewey
Hey, Michael: When all else fails, of course, there's the old 'beer can' shim trick. That *always* works, plus you get to drink the beer! BEST REGARDS / Jock Dewey On Monday, March 26, 2018 at 1:18:25 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I have a few thoughts. First off, when in doubt, call Riv. S

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread phil k
I view this board as largely people giving their impressions based on their own experience. It's what I like about it this board. It's an amalgamation of everyone's experience that may be helpful to some, not relevant to others. I'm not sure I detect any mansplaining on this thread (there aren

[RBW] Re: Thomson Elite Seatpost -- 26.8 -- with New Sam H.: Seems... Small...?

2018-03-28 Thread stevef
A couple of things that have helped me in the past with slightly small posts: Use no-slip instead of grease or use very VERY little grease, especially where the seatpost clamp is. On one post that wouldn't stop slipping no matter what I put a piece of clear vinyl framesaver/helicopter tape wh

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread EasyRider
This horror? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horror_vacui On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 6:02:53 PM UTC-4, Reid Ewing wrote: > > With the rear wheel spacing seen in Grant's photo, looks like the Riv > traditional wine cork fender spacer is not going to work. Horrors! What > will we do? > > Reid >

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Patrick Moore
Also: Where are the Sam and the Atlantis different? I know that the original Atlantis was a sort of touring/heavy duty all rounder model and took fatter tires than the original Sam; have the designs started to converge? How fat a tire can the current Sams take? Jim's chart says 45, but perhaps tha

[RBW] Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Patrick Moore
There have been photos of quite a few nice Sams on the list recently, notably Paul Saporito's on the Blug and that slate gray one yesterday. (How do y'all keep your bikes so damned *clean?*). I gather that the Sam must be, if not the most popular Riv model, certainly up there with the top 3 (which

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread Matt Beecher
No offense meant to anyone, but can you guys take your disagreement private? Thanks, Matt B. Oswego, IL (currently in Texas) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from i

[RBW] Re: WTT: Your Silver Downtube shifters for my IRD power ratchet thumb shifters

2018-03-28 Thread chris feczko
Hi All, Sorry. I've made a newbie mistake and I guess I already have what I'm looking for. Thanks everyone Chris On Tuesday, 27 March 2018 10:31:29 UTC-4, chris feczko wrote: > > Only caveat is I don't have all of the shims that come with them. > > Chris > > Sunnyside, NY > > > -- You recei

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread Deacon Patrick
In a word ... a great word ... one of the best words ... humility. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bu

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread Bill Lindsay
Maybe this made up scenario will explain the point I'm trying to make. Imagine we're at the outdoor art festival. Individual artists that put their heart and soul and time and money into their work have it on display. We walk to one booth where dozens of interested customers are looking. Mo

[RBW] Re: Un-unracing again: Wahoo Elemnt Bolt

2018-03-28 Thread John G.
I recently picked up a Wahoo Elemnt Bolt, too (based on Bill's rec via iBob. Used it for a few 50 milers in unfamiliar territory, and enjoyed it a bunch. Will post more feedback when I've used it more. On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 8:56:21 AM UTC-4, Ryan Merrill wrote: > > Nice setup. Looks li

[RBW] Re: Un-unracing again: Wahoo Elemnt Bolt

2018-03-28 Thread Ryan Merrill
Nice setup. Looks like you got something to motivate you, which is always good. I've used a bunch of Garmins in the past and now use a Fenix 5 watch to track stuff and have not had an issue with any of the units, but I'm glad to see Wahoo competing against Garmin. The only Wahoo product I have

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-28 Thread Max S
This longer chainstay model is still very much within the dominant design envelope of a chain driven bicycle. We are, like true devotees, splitting hairs. But zooming out of the devotee cubby-hole, and taking a slightly more macro-economic perspective, let’s consider cameras... (see what I did t

[RBW] Re: Mt Tam Hunqs

2018-03-28 Thread Wally Estrella
Where's the video of the downhill STAMPEEDE! ? On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 6:15:31 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: > > You should send that over to RBW if you haven't already... > > On Monday, March 26, 2018 at 1:13:19 PM UTC-7, Kurt Manley wrote: >> >> 4 Hunqs from yesterdays ride on Mt Ta

[RBW] Ebay Outing (Mine): '95 Rivendell Road 58.5cm

2018-03-28 Thread Fullylugged
Lovely bike! Level TT!. What is the serial #? FWIW, if converted to a 650B, these bikes will take a 38mm tire w/o a fender. I've run Pari-Motos on mine and now have Soma Express (which run a hair smaller). This will make someone a fine ride. -- You received this message because you are s