[RBW] Bear trap pedals.

2012-10-09 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
There are oodles of bmx style pedals now, which seem to have supplanted the bear trap style. The only bear traps I've seen lately have been cheapies. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: [RBW] Re: lights

2012-10-09 Thread charlie
Reflective sidewalls on my Marathon Supremes, velcro ankle reflector to keep my pants out of the chain, red reflector tape on the rear fender and white tape on the front head tube. My rain jacket, helmet and Carradice bag have a bit of reflective material on them also and last but not least both

[RBW] Speaking of luggage: Camper longflap versus Sackville medium

2012-10-09 Thread Scot Brooks
Hi Patrick, I briefly had a carradice, and it was fine. The sackville is better, though. By that I mean the general quality and the usability of the straps. Not to say the camper isn't good, it is, so you'd probably be a happy camper (har har) with either. -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: panniers

2012-10-09 Thread Kelly
Andy They are adjustable. I found my artel attaching system fit right in the center of the triangle. One set once its no muss no fuss. I'm talking about the large rear Rivendell rack with the trusses. Same thing you are noting? Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribe

[RBW] Re: panniers

2012-10-09 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
one point about Arkel... they're great panniers and their attachment system is rock solid but takes some real estate to properly clamp onto the rack rails. I mention this because the OP mentioned Nitto racks. My late model (w/ the corner truss reinforcements) Big Back Rack (size large) is NOT c

[RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-09 Thread Aaron Thomas
I love the Romulus-esque blue. On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 10:32:51 AM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: > > This popped up on the CL in the SF North Bay. I'm glad it is too small > for me, as I would be trying to figure out how to rationalize another bike. > I don't think it's a screamingly great d

Re: [RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-09 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm kinda purist about vintage lightweights. I think they should be kept in period shape, and owned by the folks into that sort of thing. I'm not one of those folks. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 3:02:24 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: > While the frame is beautiful I just co

[RBW] Re: FS: Misc stuff

2012-10-09 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I'd like to add a couple things to my FS listing - as usual, make offers offlist. Rodriguez Trillium Big Squeeze cantilever brake, just one, new with all the small parts and instructions. Like this, but darker gray in color. http://www.rodcycle.com/articles/bigsqueeze.html It looks pretty slick

Re: [RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-09 Thread Peter Morgano
While the frame is beautiful I just could not see using 35 year old components just to keep it "original." I have owned many racing frames from that time period and even the high end campy stuff is not as reliable as the entry level stuff you can find in any LBS today. This is just IMO, I have don

[RBW] Re: panniers

2012-10-09 Thread dougP
Others have covered the water resistance issue well & that's an important point. Another thing to study is the mounting & retention hardware. You will likely be taking them off the bike often when on tour, so it has to be something quick & easy, yet solid and secure. Before you buy, ask about

[RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-09 Thread pb
On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 11:24:21 AM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: > > That thing is screaming for a touring double and a 225mm Technomic stem. >> > Hmmmn. My response is rather different -- that it is quietly asking for the respect it deserves. I'll admit that I would prefer to see Campy NR cr

Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe Marathon Supreme update

2012-10-09 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
The only thing that defeats goatheads is going tubeless. It's pretty amazing to ride through fields of the stuff and not have to worry a bit! On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 1:15:32 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > One of the very few positive things about having many goatheads in > one's riding e

[RBW] Re: panniers

2012-10-09 Thread RJM
Anybody use the Sackville panniers? On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 12:50:05 PM UTC-5, Don wrote: > OK, having picked your brains quite successfully on the subject of > lighting I now turn to the subject of panniers, front and rear. I have a > very inexpensive Sunlight top bag and panniers and

Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe Marathon Supreme update

2012-10-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
One of the very few positive things about having many goatheads in one's riding environment is that they certainly make tire choice much easier: there is absolutely no benefit to a heavy duty, hard rolling tire just for the flat protection, since such protection is more or less useless against goat

Re: [RBW] The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-09 Thread Dave
This was nice to see. I had a Ltd. It was my first "real" serious bike. I bought the frame new for something like $275. It was maroon, which I later had repainted tangerine orange with royal blue Albert Eisentraut signature decals on the downtube; it was a beauty. I built it up using Campy

[RBW] Speaking of luggage: Camper longflap versus Sackville medium

2012-10-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Those of you who have used both, which is better? I am inclined toward the Carradice (24 liters versus SM at 23+ when "stuffed") since SJS has it for GBL 55. Anyone? -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM,

[RBW] Re: panniers

2012-10-09 Thread Don
Great pics. Thanks On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 2:28:14 PM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: > > Dawn and I use Arkel expedition series panniers. We used them for years > and in extensive rains without getting anything wet. I carry a down > sleeping bag so keeping dry is important. The many pockets and ve

[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Marathon Supreme update

2012-10-09 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
I've been working on this write up for a bit, and finally motivated to finish it! Borrowed the tires from Doug who I have commiserated with off list about tires. I totally have Goldilocks syndrome when it comes to tires! http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2012/10/schwalbe-marathon-supremes-making-

Re: [RBW] Re: lights

2012-10-09 Thread Peter Pesce
I buy DOT reflective tape at the auto parts store. It has alternating red and white sections so I can cut pieces of the proper color for front or rear reflectors. The adhesive is very tenacious, too. The white color blends very nicely with aluminum parts. I even found a spot on the back of my h

[RBW] Bear trap pedals.

2012-10-09 Thread clyde canter
Anyone still use them? Thougts. Best -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@google

[RBW] Re: panniers

2012-10-09 Thread Kelly
Dawn and I use Arkel expedition series panniers. We used them for years and in extensive rains without getting anything wet. I carry a down sleeping bag so keeping dry is important. The many pockets and vertical sleeping pad carrier are fantastic. I love the Ortlibs as well I just don't

Re: [RBW] panniers

2012-10-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
They come in different colors; mine are red. On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Toshi Takeuchi wrote: > I too use Ortlieb Sport panniers. Another benefit is that they are bright > yellow for good visibility. > > I also like have the small (front) Carridice Super C panniers, but have not > used them

Re: [RBW] panniers

2012-10-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
More accurately, the steepest parts of that hill are 20% or more; there are shallower sections. On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > I once grunted 45 lb (including bags) up a 4/10 mile, 20% grade on my > erstwhile 67" '73 Motobecane grocery fixie at 20 rpm (4 mph). > Yesterday

[RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-09 Thread lungimsam
> > That thing is screaming for a touring double and a 225mm Technomic stem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LA-s5wMhNZYJ. To post

Re: [RBW] panniers

2012-10-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I once grunted 45 lb (including bags) up a 4/10 mile, 20% grade on my erstwhile 67" '73 Motobecane grocery fixie at 20 rpm (4 mph). Yesterday it was the 24/24 at 60 on the Fargo. Odd: the Motobecane, now belonging to Eric Norris, was built from light 531 and weighed less than my Riv frames, yet it

RE: [RBW] panniers

2012-10-09 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
A vote for Arkels. Very well made, bright colors, extremely solid mounting hardware, and fitted rain covers to deal with Anne's point. I used GT-54s on the rear and GT-18s on the front for a fully loaded tour, and have used GT-18s front and back for smaller loads. Their handlebar bags are ugl

Re: [RBW] panniers

2012-10-09 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I too use Ortlieb Sport panniers. Another benefit is that they are bright yellow for good visibility. I also like have the small (front) Carridice Super C panniers, but have not used them in the rain. Toshi On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Anne Paulson wrote: > There's a reason why Ortliebs ar

Re: [RBW] panniers

2012-10-09 Thread Anne Paulson
There's a reason why Ortliebs are so popular among tourists. That reason is not fashion. The first day you ride hours and hours in the rain, and are then able to pull out dry clothes (or not), is the day you realize you want Ortliebs. On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Don wrote: > OK, having picke

Re: [RBW] panniers

2012-10-09 Thread Don
Wow, Patrick you get the award. 35 pounds of groceries. Actually I was thinking of picking up a BOB Yak 28 Plus for grocery runs. On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 2:02:01 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I have a pair of Ortlieb Packer Pluses and a front pair of Ortlieb > Packer Sports or whatever

Re: [RBW] panniers

2012-10-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Forgot to add: one of my current favorites is a home-brew hack for a largish-medium Timbuktu to which I riveted a dowel that I can toe-strap to my rack. (Note that this is floppy and unconstructed: you can successfully use it only with a rack that supports it away from the spokes.) The shoulder str

[RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-09 Thread Matthew J
Too small for me as well, but very nice. BG did in fact work with Eisentraut. Not sure when he went off on his own. On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 12:32:51 PM UTC-5, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: > This popped up on the CL in the SF North Bay. I'm glad it is too small > for me, as I would be trying t

Re: [RBW] panniers

2012-10-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I have a pair of Ortlieb Packer Pluses and a front pair of Ortlieb Packer Sports or whatever they are called. The nicest panniers I've used (not that I've used many: Carradice small ones, Axioms both Dutch and Standard, Avenirs, Nashbars). The QR mounting system with quick adjust features is excell

Re: [RBW] Re: lights

2012-10-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Good point: I always have backup front and rear, a cheap LED 3 AAA lamp in front (eg, Planet Bike Blaze) and two LEDs in the rear one run steady, the other in blinkie. I generally turn my battery headlight on only at intersections because the standlights on the Cyo or Edeluxe dim quickly. I turn it

[RBW] panniers

2012-10-09 Thread Don
OK, having picked your brains quite successfully on the subject of lighting I now turn to the subject of panniers, front and rear. I have a very inexpensive Sunlight top bag and panniers and am looking to upgrade. These would be for several day trips for more extended open road touring. I have

[RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-09 Thread pb
The treatment of the stay ends and fork ends is in the later style of Bruce Gordon, making me wonder whether he might have built this particualr example. Cheers, Peter On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 10:32:51 AM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: > This popped up on the CL in the SF North Bay.

[RBW] The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-09 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
This popped up on the CL in the SF North Bay. I'm glad it is too small for me, as I would be trying to figure out how to rationalize another bike. I don't think it's a screamingly great deal, but it is fairly priced. It's an Eisentraut "Limited" model: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/3288

[RBW] Re: lights

2012-10-09 Thread Jimmy Hutch
Battery versus generator - I hate to worry about charging or replacing batteries, so i choose to use dynohub generators. If money is no object, SON Dynohubs look and perform the best, period. However, on one of my bikes that only gets occasional use, I have a Shimano Alfine dynohub and it wor

[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Marathon Supreme update

2012-10-09 Thread hangtownmatt
Here's my experience: 5 Months 2,100 Miles 5 Flats Scares me to think these could last 6-9K miles. I will not repurchase this tire. On the positive side, however, the tire is easily removed and re-installed without tools. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to th

[RBW] Re: that "nice bike" comment

2012-10-09 Thread Frank Quan
I ride on Pacific St. in Oceanside every morningduring the work week. On Oct 7, 8:44 pm, Michael_S wrote: > I wish I saw more lugged steel bikes down here along the San Diego coast... > almost everyone is on carbon fiber with tri bars.  Oh. I see the occasional > Surly, but Riv's are rarer than h

[RBW] FS: Brand new SON, B&M, Brooks, Sugino & more...

2012-10-09 Thread Nathan W
Hiya folks, cross posting from the iBOB list as there may be a few FS items of interest to share! As usual, I have again managed to accumulate one or two extra spare bits. If anyone is interested in finding out more, please reply off list to nwsl.info at gmail.com *Brand new in box, or otherw

[RBW] Re: Bleriot steerer tubes butted or not?

2012-10-09 Thread lungimsam
> > Once I looked down the tube to see what was in there when I had the stem > off. I did not notice any butting. Don't know if one can with naked eye. > Just looked like a straight pipe down to the end if I remember correctly, > and then I could see the fender and daylight. > > But, when I s

[RBW] Re: Bleriot steerer tubes butted or not?

2012-10-09 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I think they're all butted, at least most. This is why you can't usually push a long quill all the way through the steerer and hit the tire/fender. On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 7:13:31 AM UTC-5, jinxed wrote: > > FWIW, when I was in the bike making biz, we did several lugged steel > forks. We us

[RBW] FS: Hetres new,Carradice Super Barley,Ibex Merino jacket,Wooly warm arm warmers,leg warmers,Nitto,Shimano headset,etc.

2012-10-09 Thread hobie
Thought I would use this stuff alot more then I have, hence the sale. All prices include shipping and Paypal. 1- Pair new never opened Grand Boise 650bx42 Hetres red color $130.00 1- Pair of lightly used 5-7 miles Grand Boise Ourson 650bx35 tires,same thread as a Col de vie but a folder. Good

[RBW] Re: that "nice bike" comment

2012-10-09 Thread Marc Irwin
There are a number of Riv's in my town but the the comments I get are distinctly different between my Hung and Hillborne. When people see the Hunq, they put a hand on it and say "nice, what's it for?" When they see the Hillborne they inevitably ask; "How old is it?" Go figure. Marc On Sunda

Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!

2012-10-09 Thread RJM
Get busy living or get busy dying. On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:43:43 AM UTC-5, Patrick in VT wrote: > On Monday, October 8, 2012 12:36:23 PM UTC-4, franklyn wrote: >> >> There is a whole community of people who were inspired by Bill Clinton's >> weight loss based on a lifestyle and diet cha

Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!

2012-10-09 Thread Patrick in VT
On Monday, October 8, 2012 12:36:23 PM UTC-4, franklyn wrote: > > There is a whole community of people who were inspired by Bill Clinton's > weight loss based on a lifestyle and diet changes . .. > Bill Clinton aside, "lifestyle" is a very important part of the equation. There's a lot of talk

[RBW] Re: Any update on the new low riders?

2012-10-09 Thread C.J. Filip
Someone (Dustin?) posted the prototypes mounted on an Atlantis on the Facebook RBW group, IIRC. Excited for these. On Oct 7, 4:09 pm, HKett wrote: > Are these the lowriders (and Blug post) in > question?:http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/28936544956/aug-7 > > I too am interested in any development

[RBW] Re: Bleriot steerer tubes butted or not?

2012-10-09 Thread jinxed
FWIW, when I was in the bike making biz, we did several lugged steel forks. We used steerer tubes from at least 3 vendors and they were all butted. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit ht

[RBW] Re: lights

2012-10-09 Thread Peter Pesce
Kelly In the 9 miles I've ridden it so far it's very nice! I have the PD-8 so no clutch on mine. I have no previous experience with any other dyno hub to compare it to, but I was really surprised taking it out of the box how small and light it was. Its barely larger than the XT hub that was on t

Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!

2012-10-09 Thread Lyle Bogart
The "DPT" after my name is officially for doctor of physical therapy, but in the real world it signified "Damned Poor Typist". this: ". . . looked at 5 body fat of elite. . . " should be ". . . looked at % body fat of elite. . . " Sheesh. . . lyle On 9 October 2012 07:11, Lyle Bogart wrote: > M

Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!

2012-10-09 Thread Lyle Bogart
Michael, In the past I've specifically trained for specific atheletic endeavors such as technical rock and ice climbing, marathon running, and olympic-style weightlifting. In those days, training occurred at a high intensity, often for hours on end, daily. In technical climbing and the sport of we

Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!

2012-10-09 Thread Michael Hechmer
Thanks Charlie. I haven't read Grant's book, perhaps because after so many years with the Reader I felt I didn't need to. Maybe I was wrong about that. I hadn't intended to reignite a debate about diet. I understand that some people seem to do pretty well on a fairly high grain/ hi carb diet

[RBW] Re: Bleriot steerer tubes butted or not?

2012-10-09 Thread Matt Beebe
While I don't know for sure, my guess is that the steerer is not butted. It doesn't seem like Rivendell would do that on an all-purpose frame like the Bleriotmaybe on the Roadeo, which is a more lightweight/racier design, but even there I'm not sure they'd deem it practical.You just wa