I once grunted 45 lb (including bags) up a 4/10 mile, 20% grade on my erstwhile 67" '73 Motobecane grocery fixie at 20 rpm (4 mph). Yesterday it was the 24/24 at 60 on the Fargo.
Odd: the Motobecane, now belonging to Eric Norris, was built from light 531 and weighed less than my Riv frames, yet it carried rear loads better. On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Don <donl...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Wow, Patrick you get the award. 35 pounds of groceries. Actually I was > thinking of picking up a BOB Yak 28 Plus for grocery runs. > > > On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 2:02:01 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> I have a pair of Ortlieb Packer Pluses and a front pair of Ortlieb >> Packer Sports or whatever they are called. The nicest panniers I've >> used (not that I've used many: Carradice small ones, Axioms both Dutch >> and Standard, Avenirs, Nashbars). The QR mounting system with quick >> adjust features is excellent. >> >> Carradice also have a very nice mounting system. >> >> Beware of unstructured, unstiffened panniers. These work fine with a >> rack that fully protects the wheel -- ie, one with many struts like my >> Tubus Logo -- but these things flop and get into the spokes otherwise, >> making their use a purgatory. >> >> Shopping panniers: I asked not too long ago for recommendations and >> received many; after once again using my modified Axiom Dutch >> panniers, I decided that these are really fine for short grocery rides >> and that I don't need to spend more money on grocery packers. (I >> reinforced the openings' lips with aluminum strut.) Any money I spend >> on new panniers will be for more Ortliebs or Carradices. >> >> Patrick Moore, who just yesterday evening carried home 35+ lbs of >> groceries (including 8 lbs of sirloin on sale!!) in his Dutch Axioms. >> >> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Don <don...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> > OK, having picked your brains quite successfully on the subject of >> > lighting >> > I now turn to the subject of panniers, front and rear. I have a very >> > inexpensive Sunlight top bag and panniers and am looking to upgrade. >> > These >> > would be for several day trips for more extended open road touring. I >> > have >> > most of my camping gear but need to purchase panniers. I have now have >> > front >> > and rear Nitto racks on my Sam H. Any and all advice would be helpful >> > including: new,used, brands, models, cheap, expensive. The while >> > enchilada. >> > Thanks >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eyRdgdTm3eEJ. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! >> http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t >> >> ------------------------- >> Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA >> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW >> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html >> ------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TePDLeJgRc4J. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t ------------------------- Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html ------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
