one point about Arkel... they're great panniers and their attachment system 
is rock solid but takes some real estate to properly clamp onto the rack 
rails. I mention this because the OP mentioned Nitto racks. My late model 
(w/ the corner truss reinforcements) Big Back Rack (size large) is NOT 
compatible with the Arkel mounting system because of the relative position 
of the trusses and cross pieces (the ones that connect L-R looking at the 
rack from above). The truss/ cross piece alignment is different on my 
wife's Big Back Rack (size small) and the Arkel's fit fine. 

--Andy
 

On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 10:50:05 AM UTC-7, Don wrote:
>
> OK, having picked your brains quite successfully on the subject of 
> lighting I now turn to the subject of panniers, front and rear. I have a 
> very inexpensive Sunlight top bag and panniers and am looking to upgrade. 
> These would be for several day trips for more extended open road touring. I 
> have most of my camping gear but need to purchase panniers. I have now have 
> front and rear Nitto racks on my Sam H. Any and all advice would be helpful 
> including: new,used, brands, models, cheap, expensive. The while enchilada. 
> Thanks

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