Thanks Charlie. I haven't read Grant's book, perhaps because after so many years with the Reader I felt I didn't need to. Maybe I was wrong about that.
I hadn't intended to reignite a debate about diet. I understand that some people seem to do pretty well on a fairly high grain/ hi carb diet. In fact all the members of my family do. I do not, which creates a problem & a conflict. I believe I am in the real majority, even if it doesn't feel like it at family gatherings! Actually I was more intrigued by Sisson's specific exercise recommendations and how they translate for people on this list. He suggests: 1. Doing lots of low intensity activity 2. Doing hi cardio for only 10-30 minutes a week. He refers to this as sprinting. 3. Lift heavy things, mostly your own body, for only 10-20 minutes twice a week. 4. Get lots of sunshine and sleep. These make a lot of sense to me, although when I was younger ( and apparently had a higher testosterone level) I felt the desire to go harder or longer more often. I haven't found anything in his writing on stretching, which I think is essential. As I age I feel more and more need for a regular yoga routine to keep my body functioning. These suggestions do seem to dovetail with GPs but I suspect many of us don't practice them consistently. Personally, except when I'm on the tandem, I have a hard time cycling at a moderate pace, or perhaps I should say moderate level of exertion and I find most club rides now require higher levels of output for 3-4 hours than these guidelines would support. I for one have never been able to sustain any weight training program - way too boring - but a 20 minute routine sounds more sustainable than an hour on weight machines at the gym. I also have a broader philosophical question about exercise programs, but will put that off to a separate post some time. Michael On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:06:51 PM UTC-4, charlie wrote: > > Forget the running unless you are doing short intense interval > sprints......better to lift weights if you want to lose fat. Perhaps a read > of Grants latest book will school you all on the subject. It really is a > good book and he touches in a basic way the principles for losing fat and > proper exercise to help that along and finally its not just about losing > fat but rather controlling ones blood sugar levels that is the important > part of eating low carb i.e. animal protein, eggs, saturated fats i.e. > coconut oil, fish oil, animal fat (olive oil eaten cold) large amounts of > leafy greens, some nuts & berries and limited fruit. And Jim.....thanks, > you related it well..... "if you aren't fat it doesn't apply to > you".......so only fat people or those battling fat loss, diabetes, or any > other inflammatory condition may comment from now on.....If you are a > leaned out super stud with no health problems due to your diet you may rest > on the knowledge that you are invincible.... ; ) > > On Monday, October 8, 2012 8:34:54 AM UTC-7, Leslie wrote: >> >> Once upon a time, 20 years ago, I was a skinny 6', 145lb Marine... But >> after learning how to eat everything I could get my hands on, then getting >> out of constant activity and sitting on my duff for years of grad school, I >> found myself 10 years ago tipping the scales at 280lbs... I went on a >> carb-free diet for a year (no breads, no potatoes, no sugars, best I could >> manage), and finally got down to 200lbs. >> >> But something clicked in my head; er, rather, internally, something >> snapped, regardless of my head thinking otherwise... if I thought about not >> eating a roll, I ate the pan of rolls; if I thought about not eating a >> slice of pie, I ate the pie. It was really weird, I just couldn't not eat >> carbs at all. So, I gave up, went back to 'normal', and the weight crept >> back on. >> >> Wanting to do something about it again, is when I got back into riding a >> few years ago; but as Grant's pointed out, riding alone won't drop pounds. >> This past spring, seeing the scale back up at 260, I finally started >> watching the carbs again. Took all summer, to get down to 235 now; that >> much weight actually dropped fast early on, but then I got stuck, and have >> been... For the past two months, I'm stuck at 235, 236, 237, and no more >> has come off... I really want to get down to 200 (further, eventually, but >> 200 is my initial goal); so, since my diet alone, nor w/ biking is helping, >> I'm thinking about mixing a bit of running in, to help get the loss moving. >> Aside from 'health', a large part of wanting to get my weight down, is to >> help my hill-climbing on my bikes.... >> >> Patrick ( and Jim), >> Tying your two thoughts together on alcohol: when I had the opportunity >> to spend a week in Albuquerque this past summer, I was shocked at the >> quantity of cheap liquor available even in WalMart there.... And noting the >> sizes of those purchasers buying in quantity, none were petite... I do >> like an occasional beer myself, but singularly, not in quantity, and I now >> keep them further between... Instead of a weekly beer, anymore it's closer >> to a monthly beer, just avoiding carbs (many of my geologist colleagues are >> hard drinkers, but only a few would I classify as alcoholics (but there are >> some); I enjoy a drink or two, but despise getting drunk, one and done is >> great for me; but I completely understand, not even getting started if >> that's what someone needs to do...). >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TZadGJLO6ZAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
