Re: [RBW] Re: B-17 vs Flyer

2011-10-06 Thread cyclotourist
I found the leather on two different Flyer saddles to stretch and lose tension really quickly. And the springs were always annoyingly squeaky. Don't know about the rail lenghts. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > This is a fuzzy memory from 5 years ago, but I would estimate th

[RBW] Re: B-17 vs Flyer

2011-10-06 Thread Joe Bernard
This is a fuzzy memory from 5 years ago, but I would estimate the difference is about a centimeter. Grant is right about the springs: At 160lbs. back then (oh, glory days), the only difference between the two saddles was looks and weight. Those springs didn't even buzz for me. -- You received

[RBW] B-17 vs Flyer

2011-10-06 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Well if I ever get out of Denver and back home I'll measure for you. Just put one on my Bombadil and didn't notice a difference. At 225lbs it can feel bouncy at times. Then again I've only got 100 miles on it.. I will know more after 50 ish mile ride Saturday. Kelly -- You received this me

[RBW] B-17 vs Flyer

2011-10-06 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Anyone out there used both? The recent blug entry suggests that there's less rail room for pushing the Flyer back than there is on the B-17. Can someone characterize the difference? 5mm? Over 1cm? An inch? I love my B-17 but am "Flyer-curious", shall we say, after having ridden a little on a fr

[RBW] Re: parts made in places where worker conditions are fairly reasonable

2011-10-06 Thread Michael_S
I think that cost is the sole driver to place of manufacture. There are many competent Broach houses in the US who could certainly do square taper cranks. I work with them on a regular basis making parts for Rocket Engines. And they would be willing to make the appropriate tooling if the busin

[RBW] Re: parts made in places where worker conditions are fairly reasonable

2011-10-06 Thread Michael_S
I think that cost is the most sole driver to place of manufacture. There are many competent Broach houses in the US who could certainly do square taper cranks. I work with them on a regular basis making parts for Rocket Engines. And they would be willing to make the appropriate tooling if the

Re: [RBW] Re: parts made in places where worker conditions are fairly reasonable

2011-10-06 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Jan Heine wrote: > On Oct 5, 1:41 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > >> How about the manufacturer of any of the Grand Bois non-tire parts? > > - Grand Bois tires are made by Panaracer in Japan. Their stems, > handlebars and racks come from Nitto, also in Japan. > - Grand Boi

Re: [RBW] Re: parts made in places where worker conditions are fairly reasonable

2011-10-06 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:07 PM, dpco wrote: > How about Nitto? They manufacture their products in Japan. There's a Youtube > on Nitto. Indeed and I'm a big fan of their goods. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post

Re: [RBW] Re: parts made in places where worker conditions are fairly reasonable

2011-10-06 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:16 PM, franklyn wrote: > In many ways, workers in Taiwan have better conditions than those in > the U.S., Taiwan has one of the best universal healthcare system in > the world (according to NYTimes columnist and Nobel laureate Paul > Krugman), and public transportation sys

Re: [RBW] Brooks website

2011-10-06 Thread Leslie
New Knothole post on Brooks, too... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mocv-CaFv7MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu

Re: [RBW] RBW and Apple

2011-10-06 Thread Tim McNamara
On Oct 6, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Leslie wrote: > Once upon a time, I thought I saw a poll that was looking at Rivendell bike > owners and Apple products, but I can't find it now. > > Anyone remember such? > > I was an old Apple ][ user, then when the IIGS dropped, I switched to PC's, > and my wo

[RBW] Re: RBW and Apple

2011-10-06 Thread Leslie
That was it; I thought it was on FB but hadn't found it there; but as it was there/ here, that's why Thx... -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/r

[RBW] Re: RBW and Apple

2011-10-06 Thread Roger
You may be thinking of the poll by Jim, of this list. Scroll about 1/4 of the way down on this page: http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/ On Oct 6, 11:54 am, Leslie wrote: > Once upon a time, I thought I saw a poll that was looking at Rivendell bike > owners and Apple products, but I can't find it now.

[RBW] Re: Stem length question - WTB shorter replacement - how short???

2011-10-06 Thread Joe Bernard
*How can I know (or guess well) which I'd like better without buying 2 more stems? * ** Unfortunately, the answer is: You can't. The trick is either take a guess on one; or buy both, then sell one. The first option means you may not have to sell if it works. The second..you get to try both, the

RE: [RBW] FS Velo Orange 50.4 BCD Crankset and bottom bracket

2011-10-06 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Steve: Hope I was the first responder. PayPal ok? Tom -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of notesman Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:43 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] FS Velo Orange 50.4 BCD Cranks

[RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide

2011-10-06 Thread Lisa
If you really want to go, and have the time, you can make your trip to Harris Cyclery car-free. Take Amtrak from NYC to Boston' s South Station. You can take the Acela or the Northeast Regional train. Then take the commuter rail (Worcester line) from South Station to West Newton station. Har

[RBW] Re: parts made in places where worker conditions are fairly reasonable

2011-10-06 Thread Jan Heine
On Oct 5, 1:41 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > How about the manufacturer of any of the Grand Bois non-tire parts? - Grand Bois tires are made by Panaracer in Japan. Their stems, handlebars and racks come from Nitto, also in Japan. - Grand Bois rims and cassette hubs are made in Taiwan. - Compass Bicycl

RE: [RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide

2011-10-06 Thread Joe Bernard
Boy do I wish I hadn't said THAT. Yes, I meant "internal pressure", and I'm probably projecting my own Aspergers-related struggles with phone calls. I shouldn't have mentioned it. Sorry. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To v

RE: [RBW] Re: SoCal October Ride - San Clemente 10/15/11

2011-10-06 Thread Joe Bartoe
If you are coming to the ride and driving, we can meet at my home: 34662 Calle Rosita, Capistrano Beach, CA 92624 After getting ready, we'll head down to the coffee place near the train station to meet those coming in from that direction. If people would like, we can roll down a bit early to g

[RBW] RBW and Apple

2011-10-06 Thread Leslie
Once upon a time, I thought I saw a poll that was looking at Rivendell bike owners and Apple products, but I can't find it now. Anyone remember such? I was an old Apple ][ user, then when the IIGS dropped, I switched to PC's, and my work field is PC-based. However, iPods, iPhones, have broug

[RBW] Samuel P Taylor & Wet and wild Point Reyes Mini Trip. Ride Report and Photos

2011-10-06 Thread EastBayGuy
Hi Y'all, It was my Uncles 50th Birthday on Saturday so I took the opportunity to make a mini trip out of it and headed out on Saturday morning and caught the first Bart train to Embarcadero to start my Journey. The ride to Fairfax was beautiful and I arrived a bit early so I decided to ride o

RE: [RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide

2011-10-06 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
+1. I've worked with 3 different guys on 4 different bike builds at Riv, and they were all stellar and absolutely pressure-free. And all 4 bikes were perfect captures of what I was looking for. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googleg

[RBW] Re: SoCal October Ride - San Clemente 10/15/11

2011-10-06 Thread dougP
I'm in for sure & will take Metrolink down. Be warned: Joe has an adventure bike with fenders, and a Rivendell, but they are not the same bike. Life's full of surprises. dougP On Oct 6, 10:57 am, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" wrote: > And it looks like http://www.flickr.mud.yahoo.com/groups/ > soc

[RBW] Re: OT: brake cable adjusters

2011-10-06 Thread dougP
Check Riv's brake hardware section. They've got a barrel adjuster and some hangers. On Oct 5, 4:43 pm, jandrews_nyc wrote: > I'm adding adjustable brake cable hangers to my Simpleone even though > the BG cantis work excellently. > I just would like to adjust. > The problem is...I don't really kn

Re: [RBW] Re: Stem length question - WTB shorter replacement - how short???

2011-10-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Jay: this is what you need: http://www.octagoncycles.com/ Goes well with argyle, I believe. Seriously, have you found a solution to your question? FWIW, raising my stem 2 cm made 1.5 cm longer reach bars feel much the same in the hooks and on the hoods as the shorter bars positioned lower. (Grand

[RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide

2011-10-06 Thread dougP
Here's another vote for "talk to the guys at Rivendell". There is zero pressure, and they ask a lot of questions about you & your riding, etc., in order to get you onto the best bike for you. This also makes you really think about what you want and what you're going to do with the bike. If anyth

[RBW] This just in! New Rivendell cycling outfits!

2011-10-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
http://www.golfknickers.com/ Amuse your friends and annoy your enemies! Pink Plus Fours with clashing orange and purple argyle and green polo! Not to mention the hat! -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html

[RBW] Re: Stem length question - WTB shorter replacement - how short???

2011-10-06 Thread El Sapo
I have the same issues with a too long 12cm "tallux" stem. I've raised it as high as I can and it's still feels wrong. I'm going to just switch it out for a 9cm and go thru the different heights. I really don't thing you can solve this "feel" w/mathmatics. I've tried scale drawings... Good luck.

[RBW] Re: SoCal October Ride - San Clemente 10/15/11

2011-10-06 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
And it looks like http://www.flickr.mud.yahoo.com/groups/ socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/ 72157627749072438/">Joe is volunteering to do just that! So who is planning on going? No limit on numbers of course, but you'll need to get in contact w/ Joe for directions. Again, thi

Re: [RBW] Re: New Web Site

2011-10-06 Thread CycloFiend
on 10/6/11 10:34 AM, johnb at jbust...@gmail.com wrote: I have found that you can have a bike built with whatever parts you want whether they are on their site or not just like a LBS. I had my Atlantis built with Paul Neo-Retro in front and the Touring Cantis in back with the Canti levers. It was

RE: [RBW] FS Velo Orange 50.4 BCD Crankset and bottom bracket

2011-10-06 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
That is, I'll take them both. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of notesman Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:43 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] FS Velo Orange 50.4 BCD Crankset and bottom bracket Fo

Re: [RBW] FS Velo Orange 50.4 BCD Crankset and bottom bracket

2011-10-06 Thread Kenneth Stagg
Steve, Arm length? -Ken On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:43 PM, notesman wrote: > Folks, Before I list them on e-bay I have a Velo Orange Gran Cru 50.4 > BCD crankset for sale. This is a high quality copy of the well known > TA cyclotourist crankset that sells new, when available, for $200. > This one

RE: [RBW] FS Velo Orange 50.4 BCD Crankset and bottom bracket

2011-10-06 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I'll take it. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of notesman Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:43 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] FS Velo Orange 50.4 BCD Crankset and bottom bracket Folks, Before I list

Re: [RBW] Re: parts made in places where worker conditions are fairly reasonable

2011-10-06 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
Good point, Jeremy. The notion that there are "good countries" (e.g., Republic of China) and "bad countries" (e.g., People's Republic of China) is rather simplistic. There are plenty of exploited workers in every country, including the US. Buying (or trying to buy) from specific manufacturers that

[RBW] FS Velo Orange 50.4 BCD Crankset and bottom bracket

2011-10-06 Thread notesman
Folks, Before I list them on e-bay I have a Velo Orange Gran Cru 50.4 BCD crankset for sale. This is a high quality copy of the well known TA cyclotourist crankset that sells new, when available, for $200. This one has less than 100 miles on it and is in virtually new condition. (Bolt caps haven't

[RBW] Re: New Web Site

2011-10-06 Thread johnb
I have found that you can have a bike built with whatever parts you want whether they are on their site or not just like a LBS. I had my Atlantis built with Paul Neo-Retro in front and the Touring Cantis in back with the Canti levers. It was a sweet set up. You probably have to call to arrange

[RBW] Re: parts made in places where worker conditions are fairly reasonable

2011-10-06 Thread Jeremy Till
Quoth the Compass website, at least about handlebars: "All Grand Bois handlebars are *made in Japan by Nitto*." At some point a few years ago I remember seeing an online photo tour of one of Shimano's wheelbuilding plants (Malaysia, maybe?) and it seemed a fairly pleasant place; of course, it

[RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide

2011-10-06 Thread Peter M
Oh I have called Riv a few times just to pester them with a million questions and never had anyone ask me to buy something or made me feel like I was wasting thier time. They are all really awesome guys. The issue is that in the NYC area it is hard to find anyone who owns a Rivendell to give it a

Re: [RBW] So Torn, Cannot Decide

2011-10-06 Thread Jim Mather
Here's the Atlantis geometry on Cyclofiend's site: http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/atlantis/rr21_pg18scr.jpg On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Peter M wrote: > So finally have the funds and approval from the wife to go ahead and > buy a new riv frameset only really cannot decide which one. I w

[RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide

2011-10-06 Thread John Bennett
Dear Joe, I figure you mean internal pressure, not from us. In my 11 years here, I've never heard anyone go even close to that on the phone or in person. In fact, sort of the opposite! Cheers, John @ RBW HQ On Oct 5, 3:26 pm, Joe Bernard wrote: > That's good advice, Kelly, but if Peter is anyt

Re: [RBW] Re: parts made in places where worker conditions are fairly reasonable

2011-10-06 Thread Peter Morgano
Erm that is North Korea. I do business with South Korea and they are excellent people to work with (that is where bike stuff is made when it says made in Korea since most of her world has an embargo against North Korea). Just FYI. On Oct 5, 2011 11:51 PM, "rcnute" wrote: > http://www.korea-dpr.c

[RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide

2011-10-06 Thread Mike
Hey Peter, folks have shared a lot of great insight and experience on this thread. I'll just be redundant and say, call up the folks at Riv, talk to them and trust them. I own two Rivs, a Quickbeam I picked up used and a Hilsen I've had for 3 years. I used to have a Rambouillet but just didn't need

Re: [RBW] Brooks website

2011-10-06 Thread René Sterental
Very cool! Sent from my iPhone 4 On Oct 6, 2011, at 5:01 AM, Leslie wrote: Just saw this: http://blog.brooksengland.com/wps/the-new-rivendell-website/?utm_source=fbpage&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=Blog70_06.10.2011 Cool! -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to t

[RBW] Brooks website

2011-10-06 Thread Leslie
Just saw this: http://blog.brooksengland.com/wps/the-new-rivendell-website/?utm_source=fbpage&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=Blog70_06.10.2011 Cool! -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web

Re: [RBW] Re: Has anyone tried the Compass 26" tires

2011-10-06 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I'd try 'em but they are a mite large for my Ram which maxes out at 37 mm.. I've been pretty happy with the 1.25" Pasela folders. On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote: > Has anyone been able to compare the Compass' against Paselas in the same > size? > > -Aaron Y.