Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread CycloFiend
on 3/13/10 10:18 AM, Steve Palincsar at palin...@his.com wrote: > On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 10:06 -0800, JoelMatthews wrote: >> At the '09 NAHBS in Indiana I thought I heard Mr. White say they are >> CNC machined. > > In that case, wouldn't this make the daVinci/White cranks less desirable > than the

[RBW] Creation of a lug

2010-03-13 Thread cyclotourist
Peter posted this in the 650b list, and I think it's a great thing to pass on here. Shows the development of a custom lug, and is a thing of beauty! http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353...@n00/sets/72157623613825396/ -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to

Re: [RBW] Re: ALMOST Spring..

2010-03-13 Thread Dan Abelson
I took of my studded tires last week. Nothing like the first commute without studded tires. Today, I got out for my first ride of the season on my Quickbeam. The first ride of the year on the Quickbeam reminds me how much I love that bike. I think the perfect complement to a Quickbeam would be

[RBW] Re: ALMOST Spring..

2010-03-13 Thread Rick Smith
I wanted to take off the rear rack and move to my summer set up but resisted the urge... maybe next week. I've been riding with Strala Vinters for a while now - warm in cold temps and on snowy and rainy days they keep the moisture out. Looking forward to when they'll be uncomfortably hot. On Mar 1

[RBW] Re: Screwing around with names (was Rodeos and other Rivs)

2010-03-13 Thread Angus
Bamford works for me! As I was born in Derbyshire, it sounded a bit familiar...as did Derwent house...I hope there is more than one, because we are supposed to be staying in the Derwent house in Matlock in July. My All-Rounder made a trip to the peak district and enjoyed it very much! http://www

[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread benzzoy
I don't particularly like the look of the Davinci or the TA Carmina cranks. I do love Campagnolo's last generation Record/Chorus triples, that were unfortunately discontinued. These cranks are sleek, beautifully finished (polished and anodized) and can be had rather cheaply (<$100 for a NOS) if o

[RBW] Re: ALMOST Spring..

2010-03-13 Thread Justin August
Had a couple good days earlier this week in Philly. Last night and today we're getting Noah's Ark levels of rain. On Mar 13, 8:36 pm, EricP wrote: > Rode 30 miles today in the Twin Cities.  Warmer than normal but > windy.  Still don't have the Hillborne outside yet.  Maybe tomorrow. > More likely

[RBW] Fargo Street Hill Climb - Los Angeles, Sunday

2010-03-13 Thread James Warren
Is anybody going to check this out tomorrow morning? I just found out about it, and my brother and I are going to head out there tomorrow morning and get there around 9:30. It could be a nice little cycling social event. http://www.lawheelmen.org/fargo.htm I'll probably give it a go on either

[RBW] Re: ALMOST Spring..

2010-03-13 Thread EricP
Rode 30 miles today in the Twin Cities. Warmer than normal but windy. Still don't have the Hillborne outside yet. Maybe tomorrow. More likely next weekend. Am really pushing the envelope by taking the studded tires off the bikes last night. Both my wife and I noticed the pound and a half weigh

[RBW] Re: SBC moose-style bar FS

2010-03-13 Thread Beth H
SOLD. Thanks much. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more

[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread JoelMatthews
> 1. Are there any cranks to be avoided? Well, you want to avoid cranks that have BCDs inconsistent with your riding ability and preference. Q and compatibility with your bottom bracket spindle (unless you plan to get a new one) are important too. if you pay big bucks for a pretty bike, an unattr

[RBW] Re: ALMOST Spring..

2010-03-13 Thread Mike
Here in Portland the streets were wet and the sky grey but the sun started to poke out here and there. I got out for a 1.5hr ride up to Skyline and looped around and came back home. Then I got out on the QB for a while just noodling around town. A few brief showers but overall a very nice time on t

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread Roy Yates
Based on this whole crank discussion, I've been wondering 1. Are there any cranks to be avoided? Nobody much complains about their cranks as long as the fit (length and Q factor) are ok. This is compared to brakes where you hear a lot of discussion/complaints about squealing, finicky setup, and

[RBW] Re: ALMOST Spring..

2010-03-13 Thread RoadieRyan
Raining now in Seattle (shocker) but it was nice this morning if bit windy had a nice sunny ride along puget sound, and I too was glad to have wool on: socks, and a wool base layer and sweater On Mar 13, 2:24 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > Classic blustery day in Chicago.  Windy, rainy, not terribly

[RBW] Re: ALMOST Spring..

2010-03-13 Thread JoelMatthews
Classic blustery day in Chicago. Windy, rainy, not terribly cold. I set out mid-morning after the overnight storm passed. Unfortunately, about an hour in, the rain came back with some impressive wind gusts. My cashmere sweater kept me warm enough. Still would not call it a pleasant ride, howeve

[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread JoelMatthews
> If Riv wants to expand to others, good luck as those other > people are looking at outboard bearing cranks - that's all the rage > and what all the racer-types who are willing to pay $300+ for a > crankset seek. Yes, you and I may not care, but the guys willing to > spend $300+ for a crankset do

[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread JoelMatthews
> In that case, wouldn't this make the daVinci/White cranks less desirable > than the forged Sugino models? I am no metallurgist so cannot answer the question from any sort of technical perspective. The White Eno on my commuter is stiff, attractive and light. So far its held up well. Originally

[RBW] ALMOST Spring..

2010-03-13 Thread Bruce
Wore my Addidas Sambas with thin wool socks today for the 1st time on a ride this year! Since it was very windy and drizzling on and off, I also needed a Showers Pass jacket, lots of wool and wind proof gloves, but it felt like progress was being made. Rode a rural hilly route in the western p

[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread bfd
On Mar 13, 6:15 am, Garth wrote: > For those that may not have known the TA Zephyr triple w/rings > sold for about $275 not long ago from Riv. > This is was the finest 110/74 crank made. . . .  and it even had a > third drilling for a 56mm ring instead of the 74. > The Q is mid 150's.  If Ri

[RBW] For Sale Listings

2010-03-13 Thread Joe Bartoe
Hi Everyone, I have added new items to my for sale listings. Also included are pics of the Rawland tthat I have listed for sale. I would like to sell the bike as a whole, but I realize that the people who might be interested would also like to build up the bike as they see fit. For this reason

[RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video

2010-03-13 Thread Adam
Any locals have guesses on their route? On Mar 12, 11:30 am, doug peterson wrote: > Way cool!  The best video I've seen in a long time; really shows the > versatility.  And the bike looks kinda neat in bare metal.  I'm always > envious of people who can take photos / videos from their bike. > > d

[RBW] Re: Screwing around with names (was Rodeos and other Rivs)

2010-03-13 Thread Beth
I liked your train of thought here and set about seeing exactly what kinds of things might began with "Bam"!! Of course, Wikipedia was the easiest "source" to begin with. Though the first item listed is "Bam is commonly used as a onomatopoeia for a sound, mostly that of an impact or collision". So

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 10:06 -0800, JoelMatthews wrote: > At the '09 NAHBS in Indiana I thought I heard Mr. White say they are > CNC machined. In that case, wouldn't this make the daVinci/White cranks less desirable than the forged Sugino models? -- You received this message because you are sub

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread David Hallerman
As Michael Hechmer wrote: "I like the Cospea very much. It is gorgeous and works great." +23 to that. The Cospea is among the most beautiful cranks ever made, in my eyes. The only ones as attractive are the TA Zephyr Light and the first-and-second generation Shimano Dura-Ace (7400 or 7402), a

[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread JoelMatthews
At the '09 NAHBS in Indiana I thought I heard Mr. White say they are CNC machined. On Mar 13, 10:54 am, CycloFiend wrote: > on 3/13/10 8:29 AM, Steve Palincsar at palin...@his.com wrote: > > > Does "billet cranks" mean CNC rather than forged? > > Not specifically.  "Billet" is the bar stock of me

[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread JoelMatthews
> Again the Davinci Crank has a Q of 158, has interchangeable spiders, > weighs 400 grams, is a high polish silver, is made in America, is very > stiff, is $100 less than TA. DaVinci is nice. Unless you have months to wait, or happen to call DaVinci when it has a single crank your size and specs,

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread CycloFiend
on 3/13/10 8:29 AM, Steve Palincsar at palin...@his.com wrote: > Does "billet cranks" mean CNC rather than forged? Not specifically. "Billet" is the bar stock of metal. You could use the billet in a forging die setup (cold forged, hot forged or near-net forged would be three common options), or

[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread Garth
Since Billet Aluminum is just a chunk of Al, yes, they would be CNC. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 08:26 -0800, MichaelH wrote: > Again the Davinci Crank has a Q of 158, has interchangeable spiders, > weighs 400 grams, is a high polish silver, is made in America, is very > stiff, is $100 less than TA. Or one might consider the White VBC > crank, which has a Q of 137, and,

[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread MichaelH
Again the Davinci Crank has a Q of 158, has interchangeable spiders, weighs 400 grams, is a high polish silver, is made in America, is very stiff, is $100 less than TA. Or one might consider the White VBC crank, which has a Q of 137, and, as a double, can be configured all the way down to a 24 i

[RBW] Re: SKS/Berthoud fender review

2010-03-13 Thread JoelMatthews
In my experience, aluminum fenders warp easily compared to steel and sks. Steel seem more dent prone. I had my wood working nephew make a rounded piece of oak the size of the inside of my fender which taps out dents. A fender with dents is usable. Warped has to go to recycling. As such, I have

[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread JoelMatthews
The TA Carmina, among the best crank and chainring in production today, comes in the 94/58 configuration: http://peterwhitecycles.com/carmina.asp On Mar 13, 9:23 am, William wrote: > +1 on the 94/58 idea.  I have two sets of Richey/Suginos (the matte > grey bead blasted ones, not the polished si

[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread William
+1 on the 94/58 idea. I have two sets of Richey/Suginos (the matte grey bead blasted ones, not the polished silver ones). I measure their Q at 151, and I can run down to a 22 when I run them triple and a 29T when I run them double. I'd love to stock up on these, or their modern replacement. On

Re: [RBW] Re: ebay outing: 62cm Legolas

2010-03-13 Thread cyclotourist
I've always been intrigued by the Legolas frames. Light weight, fat tire clearances, taller BB, what's not to like! I remember the copper ones on the frame page, good buy! On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Jim M. wrote: > I'm enjoying mine too. It really is a worthy road bike. Mine's copper > a

[RBW] Re: ebay outing: 62cm Legolas

2010-03-13 Thread Jim M.
I'm enjoying mine too. It really is a worthy road bike. Mine's copper also; I think there are only 2 in copper. jim m wc ca On Mar 12, 4:58 pm, Mojo wrote: > I have to say I am really enjoying my new (last fall) Legolas. It is a > Roadeo with wider tire tolerances, well and a higher BB and proba

Re: [RBW] Re: SKS/Berthoud fender review

2010-03-13 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The Honjos, 45s, are 559s and hammered, which may make them stiffer than the smooth VO 45 622s, but whatever the reason, they are stiffer and the metal seems harder. The front VO on the Moto will crimp slightly at the edges where it bends, either because of hitting (lightly; a solid blow would defo

[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread clevewh...@gmail.com
When there are so many really beautiful non-anodized silver cranks out there I don't know why anyone would want an anodized one. After a few miles of pedaling the anodizing will have worn off where the shoe scuffs. plus anodizing is often done because it's cheaper than polishing. VO already carri

[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread Garth
For those that may not have known the TA Zephyr triple w/rings sold for about $275 not long ago from Riv. This is was the finest 110/74 crank made. . . . and it even had a third drilling for a 56mm ring instead of the 74. The Q is mid 150's. If Riv was to make any crank, this would be my choi

Re: [RBW] Dirty Hubs are Cool...was Hubshiners? UPDATE!

2010-03-13 Thread Bruce
In blue and green and tan to match Keven's bag of course. A brand V style as well... From: Bill Connell To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 7:46:58 AM Subject: Re: [RBW] Dirty Hubs are Cool...was Hubshiners? UPDATE! On Saturday, Ma

Re: [RBW] Dirty Hubs are Cool...was Hubshiners? UPDATE!

2010-03-13 Thread Bill Connell
On Saturday, March 13, 2010, CycloFiend wrote: > on 3/12/10 7:22 PM, Angus at angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> I can feel a new flickr group brewing "Rivendell hub shiners" >> >> and no I'm NOT going to start it. > > I don't think anyone can start it until they own the things... > ...and I'm d

[RBW] What's Your Q?

2010-03-13 Thread Bruce
Going out to the garage with a machinists ruler, I find that putting the center of a crank arm flat on the table and measuring the gap between the table and the center of the pedal hole yields these numbers; Sugino XD2 27 mm Late Model Ultegra 20 mm Vintage Shimano 600 12.5 mm. Pretty wide

Re: [RBW] Re: SKS/Berthoud fender review

2010-03-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 19:06 -0800, rob markwardt wrote: > I've only tried the older SKS's and they developed a kind of funky > warped twist on the back. I heard others say that metal fenders > rattle a lot but mine are rock solid. Must be because somebody else > installed them! None of mine ratt

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread Michael Hechmer
I like the Cospea very much. It is gorgeous and works great. I also have a double / triple from DaVinci which is about the same price and is also a great crank. It is actually made by White Ind. and has the advantage of fitting on a pretty short BB, so you can save some money by keeping your curr