> 1. Are there any cranks to be avoided?

Well, you want to avoid cranks that have BCDs inconsistent with your
riding ability and preference.  Q and compatibility with your bottom
bracket spindle (unless you plan to get a new one) are important too.
if you pay big bucks for a pretty bike, an unattractive or ill
matching crank will certainly stick out like sore thumb.

On Mar 13, 5:29 pm, Roy Yates <roydya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Based on this whole crank discussion, I've been wondering
>
> 1. Are there any cranks to be avoided?
>
> Nobody much complains about their cranks as long as the fit (length and Q
> factor) are ok.  This is compared to brakes where you hear a lot of
> discussion/complaints about squealing, finicky setup, and poor stopping
> power.
>
> As for me, I've used and liked pretty much every crank I've tried, including
> old sakae square taper, various shimano 600, sugino XD, various shimano
> Hollowtech-II cranks in 105, ultegra, R700, and Dura-Ace flavors,  and even
> some cheap Campy Veloce cranks. They have all seemed fine.
>
> 2. Are some people avoiding the Hollowtech-II cranks with external bearings
> because they don't come in various Q factors (AFAIK)?
>
> ...Roy
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 5:19 PM, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > If Riv wants to expand to others, good luck as those other
> > > people are looking at outboard bearing cranks - that's all the rage
> > > and what all the racer-types who are willing to pay $300+ for a
> > > crankset seek.  Yes, you and I may not care, but the guys willing to
> > > spend $300+ for a crankset do. Good Luck!
>
> > Rando and committed tourers will spend $300.00 for a crank.  TA does a
> > tidy business in the market.  Whether people will pay a premium for a
> > Sugino when there are cheaper models available is another question.  I
> > do not think Riv has much risk, however.  It appears Sugino makes the
> > cranks already.  Riv is just making them available in the U.S.  Just a
> > matter of buying a small quantity first to test the market than get
> > more later if demand is there.
>
> > On Mar 13, 1:30 pm, bfd <bfd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On Mar 13, 6:15 am, Garth <garth...@gmail.com> wrote:> For those that
> > may not have known.... the TA Zephyr triple w/rings
> > > > sold for about $275 not long ago from Riv.
> > > > This is was the finest 110/74 crank made. . . .  and it even had a
> > > > third drilling for a 56mm ring instead of the 74.
> > > > The Q is mid 150's.  If Riv was to make any crank, this would be my
> > > > choice, not yet another wide-ish Sugino.
> > > > The $300 Sugino may seem a bit high for some, low for others.
> > > > They could make it more versatile for some if they made it a 94mm BCD
> > > > instead of 110, but 94mm rings just are not so popular. That's one
> > > > cool thing about the TA Carmina, that you can change the BCD of your
> > > > crank from 94/58 to 94 to 110/74 to 110 to 130/74 to 130mm.
>
> > > Agree and how large a market is there for another "compact" crank? I
> > > guess the question is who is the market? Most people looking for
> > > 110bcd double cranks have a few choices like the one from VO and
> > > Jitensha. If Riv wants to expand to others, good luck as those other
> > > people are looking at outboard bearing cranks - that's all the rage
> > > and what all the racer-types who are willing to pay $300+ for a
> > > crankset seek.  Yes, you and I may not care, but the guys willing to
> > > spend $300+ for a crankset do. Good Luck!
>
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