[RBW] Re: 650b market status?

2009-08-22 Thread rob markwardt
There are a few shops in Seattle that carry 650b stuff. I've seen a few beautiful custom 650b'ers around town, several Bleriots, and an occasional Kogwell. I think if more people would be willing to try them they'd be sold on the ride. Today I took my Bleriot, shod with 40mm Schwalbe Marathons,

[RBW] Re: End of the Atlantis?!?

2009-08-22 Thread David Estes
Doug's the champion Atlantis utilizer, by the way! Any bike, anywhere! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3666863547/in/set-72157620523556167/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3298444195/in/set-72157614275209826/ On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:48 PM, doug peterson wrote: > > Came in

[RBW] Re: End of the Atlantis?!?

2009-08-22 Thread Bill Gibson
For years I lusted for a Specialized Expedition, but never had the money, and missed out. For years have I lusted for the Atlantis, with guilt, as my used Quickbeam is a better bike than I am a rider, and is all the bike I really need where I am today (I believe I could ride around the world right

[RBW] Re: Rough Riders Rally

2009-08-22 Thread David Estes
I betcha' they'll take you just as you are! It would be fun to send a SoCal contingent up for it! DE On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:04 PM, doug peterson wrote: > > Don't see any racks or packs in the pix. Would I have to strip down > my Atlantis to get admitted? And maybe fit up those bumpy tires

[RBW] Re: End of the Atlantis?!?

2009-08-22 Thread doug peterson
Came in a bit late on this one and had to go back to Riv and read GP's comments. To me, all this speculation about the end of the Atlantis is reading a lot into what Grant wrote. I take his words at face value - either the price goes up or they don't produce in Japan. Simple economics. If it we

[RBW] Re: 650b market status?

2009-08-22 Thread Brewster Fong
On Aug 22, 12:29 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > Your LBS stocks 650B tires?  Wow.  Mine doesn't.  At least, they > recognize them now (having worked on my three bikes).  They aren't > singling out 650B; they don't stock much of anything in tires other than > 700x23 Armadillos and knobby 559s.  C

[RBW] Re: Quick Quickbean Celebration

2009-08-22 Thread Cycletex
That's the one. Love it! Using the s...@#t out of it. It's attaining beusage quickly. Some scratches. A couple of dents on the downtube from a bike shop. (No, not my usual one). Stickers starting to peel. Ride it on dirt. On the road. Fast, slow. Skinny tires. Fat tires. Unloaded. Semi-loaded.

[RBW] Re: Rough Riders Rally

2009-08-22 Thread doug peterson
Don't see any racks or packs in the pix. Would I have to strip down my Atlantis to get admitted? And maybe fit up those bumpy tires? dougP On Aug 17, 8:44 pm, David Estes wrote: > They could have at least stopped by and said "hi!" > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:05 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > > > >

[RBW] Re: kickstand on Bleriot in the spot behind teh seat tube?

2009-08-22 Thread doug peterson
Been using the Clickstand for a while now and it is a clever solution. However, after just finishing a loaded tour, I'm going to try a conventional BB mounted stand for my next trip. The Clickstand absolutely needs the brake on for stability (they tell you this on their website), and I found wit

[RBW] Re: End of the Atlantis?!?

2009-08-22 Thread James Dinneen
An Atlantis was high up on my list of possible bikes when I was in the market a couple of years ago. I am heavy and the Atlantis seemed indicated from RBW charts. However, I was in the 56 cm size and thus the bike had 26 in. wheels. I did not think that the "fun" quality of the ride compared wit

[RBW] Re: Quick Quickbean Celebration

2009-08-22 Thread Esteban
Clif - yours is the gigantic blue one, right? Real nice. Yes - its a great group of bikes. I like how the run the gamut from sleek ss/fixie to touring to randonneuring to full-on mountain bike. Great design. I love mine. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Aug 22, 12:38 pm, Cycletex wrote: > Hey,

[RBW] Re: 650b market status?

2009-08-22 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 15:15 -0700, Esteban wrote: > I agree with Jim. Rather than treating it as a special size, Riv has > integrated it into their models, which normalizes the size. My only > disappointment is not having 650B in the larger Riv sizes. I'll say it one more tim: Grant was right

[RBW] Re: End of the Atlantis?!?

2009-08-22 Thread Doug Van Cleve
The deal, as I recall, is that most forks are bent after the dropouts are brazed in. This leaves a straight section above the dropouts since the bender can only get so close to them. All of the custom builders who do the pretty, low curve bend the blades individually before attaching the dropout

[RBW] Re: 650b market status?

2009-08-22 Thread Esteban
I agree with Jim. Rather than treating it as a special size, Riv has integrated it into their models, which normalizes the size. My only disappointment is not having 650B in the larger Riv sizes. My 62cm Nobilette Protovelo is butter. And I can't explain it, but any rando bike with 650B just l

[RBW] Re: 650b market status?

2009-08-22 Thread Ryan Watson
Last I heard Kirk's project was very close. He extended the deadline to the end of August. So get your orders in! I just added one more set to my order to help the cause. Ryan On Aug 22, 2009, at 10:43, Brewster Fong wrote: > > On the Serotta board, someone pleaded for people to "invest"

[RBW] Re: End of the Atlantis?!?

2009-08-22 Thread JoelMatthews
> Mark Nobillette made my custom and I'm thinking the fork bend on > that is pretty darn nice. Agreed. Mr. Nobillette is quite the artist with tubes of metal. On Aug 22, 1:33 pm, JimD wrote: > With regards to forks and bends: > > Mark Nobillette made my custom and I'm thinking the  fork bend

[RBW] Re: Quick Quickbean Celebration

2009-08-22 Thread Cycletex
Hey, I like that one with the bullmoose bars. Who woulda thunk? clif http://hardmenwithsoftbellies.wordpress.com/ On Aug 22, 1:28 am, Corwin wrote: > As the proud owner of a Quickbeam, I felt compelled to update this > thread with the URL for the Flickr Quickbeam Group Pool slideshow: > > http:

[RBW] Re: 650b market status?

2009-08-22 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 12:25 -0700, Brewster Fong wrote: > > > On Aug 22, 12:03 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > It isn't fading, and it never was a fad. Hula hoops were a fad. 650B > > was and is a niche market. > > Thanks Steve. I meant to say "niche market," instead of fad. My LBS > stock

[RBW] Re: 650b market status?

2009-08-22 Thread Brewster Fong
On Aug 22, 11:29 am, Tim McNamara wrote: > I think the energy devoted into 650B would have been much better   > expended on getting a good road rim along the lines of the MA-2 into   > the market, with box construction, a low profile, polished finish and   > true nipple sockets.  That seems to

[RBW] Re: 650b market status?

2009-08-22 Thread Brewster Fong
On Aug 22, 12:03 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > It isn't fading, and it never was a fad.  Hula hoops were a fad.  650B > was and is a niche market. Thanks Steve. I meant to say "niche market," instead of fad. My LBS stocks a ton of tires. The majority seem to be 700x23, is there really any othe

[RBW] Re: 650b market status?

2009-08-22 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 09:43 -0700, Brewster Fong wrote: > On the Serotta board, someone pleaded for people to "invest" in Kirk > Pacenti's Pari-Moto road tire (584x38). The poster stated Kirk needed > 200 pairs pre-ordered by 8/15 at a cost of $118/pair. Does anyone know > if Kirk made it? > > I'

[RBW] Re: 650b market status?

2009-08-22 Thread Mike
All my bikes are 700c but I ride bigger bikes--62cm Rambouillet and 63cm Hilsen. I wouldn't hesitate to ride a 650b bike if I used a smaller frame size. A coworker recently did a conversion to 650b and loves it. It seems to work well for him. I hope it doesn't fade away. --~--~-~--~~--

[RBW] Re: End of the Atlantis?!?

2009-08-22 Thread JimD
With regards to forks and bends: Mark Nobillette made my custom and I'm thinking the fork bend on that is pretty darn nice. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/3226115549/in/ set-72157604146015375/ -JimD who hasn't seen anything nearly as pretty as a Riv fork on any MCRB. On Aug 21, 2

[RBW] Re: Roadeo sizing

2009-08-22 Thread rcnute
I wonder if the Riv sizing recommendations remain the same? On Aug 22, 7:06 am, R Gonet wrote: > On Aug 22, 6:28 am, nawr...@comcast.net wrote:> I cant wait to see the > headbadge, Riv always does such a great job with those.  And am also curious > about the seattube decal, panel or an R on th

[RBW] Re: Roadeo sizing

2009-08-22 Thread rcnute
I wonder if the Riv sizing recommendations remain the same? On Aug 22, 7:06 am, R Gonet wrote: > On Aug 22, 6:28 am, nawr...@comcast.net wrote:> I cant wait to see the > headbadge, Riv always does such a great job with those.  And am also curious > about the seattube decal, panel or an R on th

[RBW] Re: 650b market status?

2009-08-22 Thread Tim McNamara
On Aug 22, 2009, at 11:43 AM, Brewster Fong wrote: > But, is there really that many people demanding road 650b or is it > just another fading fad? Unless Trek and Cannondale and Specialized are listing 650B bikes, it's at best a niche market. If it lasts for a year or two it's a fad and I

[RBW] Re: 650b market status?

2009-08-22 Thread Brewster Fong
On Aug 22, 10:16 am, CycloFiend wrote: > on 8/22/09 9:43 AM, Brewster Fong at bfd...@yahoo.com wrote: > > > On the Serotta board, someone pleaded for people to "invest" in Kirk > > Pacenti's Pari-Moto road tire (584x38). The poster stated Kirk needed > > 200 pairs pre-ordered by 8/15 at a cost

[RBW] Re: Roadeo sizing

2009-08-22 Thread Rene Valbuena
The sizes are now listed at the top of this link: [don't know how to tinyurl] http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bicycle_models#product=50-618 -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cycletex Sent: Saturday, Au

[RBW] Re: 650b market status?

2009-08-22 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/22/09 9:43 AM, Brewster Fong at bfd...@yahoo.com wrote: > On the Serotta board, someone pleaded for people to "invest" in Kirk > Pacenti's Pari-Moto road tire (584x38). The poster stated Kirk needed > 200 pairs pre-ordered by 8/15 at a cost of $118/pair. Does anyone know > if Kirk made it? T

[RBW] 650b market status?

2009-08-22 Thread Brewster Fong
On the Serotta board, someone pleaded for people to "invest" in Kirk Pacenti's Pari-Moto road tire (584x38). The poster stated Kirk needed 200 pairs pre-ordered by 8/15 at a cost of $118/pair. Does anyone know if Kirk made it? I'm curious as to the size of the 650b market. If there's "growth," is

[RBW] Re: End of the Atlantis?!?

2009-08-22 Thread Brewster Fong
On Aug 20, 2:37 pm, SpeedyChix wrote: > NAHBS is all about a host of builders who can do this and you get full > custom at the same time. > Want heavier tubesets? Full custom. > > There are hosts of options out there. > Agree. But, its been argued before that if you want a "GP designed bike" t

[RBW] Re: End of the Atlantis?!?

2009-08-22 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/21/09 6:29 AM, Tim McNamara at tim...@bitstream.net wrote: > > > On Aug 21, 2009, at 7:02 AM, George Millwood wrote: > >> Life is too short to get a crick in the neck looking backwards > > *That* is a great line. Indeed. I hope the folks at the RBWHQ&L decide to use that for the next t

[RBW] Re: Quick Quickbean Celebration

2009-08-22 Thread Corwin
As the proud owner of a Quickbeam, I felt compelled to update this thread with the URL for the Flickr Quickbeam Group Pool slideshow: http://www.flickr.com/groups/quickbeam/pool/show/ It is a great slideshow. Corwin On Aug 21, 2:41 pm, "cj.spinner" wrote: > Played the Flickr Quickbeam pool sl

[RBW] Re: Roadeo sizing

2009-08-22 Thread R Gonet
On Aug 22, 6:28 am, nawr...@comcast.net wrote: > I cant wait to see the headbadge, Riv always does such a great job with > those.  And am also curious about the seattube decal, panel or an R on the > sides like the Rambouillet ?  It is fun watching the new bikes from Grant. > Wouldn't a Howdy

[RBW] Re: Roadeo sizing

2009-08-22 Thread Cycletex
I'm not sure the low end, but I was informed by Grant the high end will stop at 63. He relayed that anything taller would need stouter tubes and basically be a Hilsen w/o the clearance. I'd love a steel roadie road bike in 68cm but now I can quit worrying about what I might hawk to get it. On Aug

[RBW] Re: Rodeo

2009-08-22 Thread Johnny Alien
Great looking bike and like all RIvendells I have a desire to own one but this is hands down the cheesiest name they have ever used. I always liked that their names were well thought out and more dignified sounding. This one is kinda goofball. On Aug 21, 8:40 pm, Mike wrote: > Rivendell posted

[RBW] Re: Bleriot vs. Sam Hilborne

2009-08-22 Thread Phil Roberts
Own both. Built up a 52 cm Hillborne but it turned out to be too long in the top tube for my wife. Bought and built up a Bleriot and she's now quite happy. In the mean time I was able to ride the Hillborne a couple of times on my daily commute and took it for a 3 day dirt road camping tour this sum

[RBW] Re: Roadeo sizing

2009-08-22 Thread nawrock
I cant wait to see the headbadge, Riv always does such a great job with those.  And am also curious about the seattube decal, panel or an R on the sides like the Rambouillet ?  It is fun watching the new bikes from Grant. Dave Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO - Original Message - From: