Thanks a lot Oleg
sincerely yours
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> Hello!
>
> I'm pleased to announce version 3.4.0, the final release
> of branch 3.4 of CheetahTemplate3.
>
>
>
Op 4/12/2024 om 0:14 schreef Greg Ewing via Python-list:
On 4/12/24 3:24 am, Roel Schroeven wrote:
It's not entirely clear to me though how bytes.__new__ *can* set an
object's value. Isn't __new__ also a regular function?
Yes, but the __new__ methods of the builtin immutable ob
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> Another big release day! Python 3.13.1 and 3.12.8 were regularly scheduled
> releases, but they do contain a few security fixes. That makes it a nice
> time to release the se
are able to do things
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On 12/9/24 12:19 PM, marc nicole via Python-list wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The fatal error exits the program with a code -1 while referencing the
> memory address involved and nothing else.
>
> How to catch it in Python 2.7?
Does the problem occur with Python 3.x? At this date,
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>
> On 30.12.24 18:29, Michael Torrie wrote:
> > On 12/26/24 12:34 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote:
> >> sorry you don't understand the problem…
> >>
> >> > You managed to make a
wrapped bit
altogether as I'm only interested in the 'real' address. How can I
easily remove the UTF8 section in a way that will work whether or not
it's there?
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> moments, it’s smart to fall back to 'utf-8' or something safe.
>
Thanks, I think! :-)
Is there a simple[r] way to extract just the 'real' address between
the <>, that's all I actually need. I think it has the be the last
chunk of the From: doesn't it?
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easily remove the UTF8 section in a way that will work whether or not
> it's there?
This seemed to work for me:
import email.header
text, encoding = email.header.decode_header(some_string)[0]
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On 12/26/24 12:34 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote:
> sorry you don't understand the problem…
>
> > You managed to make a build of Python that attempts to link to a DLL
>
> I never touch the OpenSUSE python. the OpenSUSE python try to use my
> sqalite3.
The *only*
On 12/25/24 3:55 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list
> wrote:
>> It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* error because:
>>
>> 1) "cnf" is using OS python
>> 2) os "r
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> On 12/25/24 3:55 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list
> > wrote:
> >> It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* error
finitely appears to be a pretty major mis-configuration
of his system. Not much we can do about that.
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On 29Dec2024 07:16, Kevin M. Wilson wrote:
Excuse please, my failure. As I have not been following this discussion, why is the
subject "Python List Is NOT Dead" a subject for discussion? Has the list been
moving towards closing?
No, the list's still around. But there wa
On 12/29/24 15:10, Cameron Simpson via Python-list wrote:
On 29Dec2024 07:16, Kevin M. Wilson wrote:
Excuse please, my failure. As I have not been following this
discussion, why is the subject "Python List Is NOT Dead" a subject for
discussion? Has the list been moving towards clo
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 at 15:02, aotto1968 via Python-list
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> > You managed to make a build of Python that attempts to link to a DLL
>
> I never touch the OpenSUSE python. the OpenSUSE python try to use my
> sqalite3.
You keep saying this, but do you even know what "make
thank you Mr. Jahangir.
you are expert in python.
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> On 25Dec2024 14:52, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
> >I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org)
>
On 2024-12-27, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
> Cameron Simpson wrote:
>> On 25Dec2024 14:52, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
>> >I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org)
>> >these last times.
>> >
>> >I think tha
Maybe you'd better use descriptors?
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|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name VersionArchitecture Description
+++--==--
ii libssl-dev:amd64 3.3.1-2ubuntu2 amd64Secure Sockets Layer toolkit -
development files
```
then I don't understand why you'd get the "Python requires a OpenSSL
1.1.1 or newer" message.
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On 2025-02-09, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
> You need the sources of the OpenSSL library, not the compiled library.
> On Ubuntu, the packages with sources are typically named xxx-dev where
> xxx is the package that provides the library. I don't have a Ubuntu
> currently
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> On 2025-02-09, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
>
> > You need the sources of the OpenSSL library, not the compiled library.
> > On Ubuntu, the packages with sources are typically named xxx-dev where
&
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> On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 at 04:04, Grant Edwards via Python-list
> wrote:
>> On 2025-02-09, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
>>
>>> You need the sources of the OpenSSL library, not the compiled library.
>>>
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> The -dev packages also contain the man pages for the libraries. It
> surprised me at first that the man pages weren't installed by the
> "normal" lib packages. But, if you're not writing/building ap
= 'Q'
>>> p2 = Person.get(1)
>>> p2
>>> p is p2
True
Queries::
>>> p3 = Person.selectBy(lname="Doe")[0]
>>> p3
>>> pc = Person.select(Person.q.lname=="Doe").count()
>>> pc
1
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call_tracing()| enables explicit recursion of the
tracing function.
Is there any reason it doesn't support
sys.call_tracing(/func/, /args/, kargs)
to call
func(*args, **kargs)
?
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("/home/tim/.local/share/pipx/shared/lib/python3.12/site-packages") and
added that to /usr/lib/python3.12/sitecustomize.py as appended to sys.path
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don't use it you lose it, right)
I hope that someone can help me correct this.
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On 12/14/24 10:31 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote:
> The CORE problem is that python3 works well in *my* environment but the
> installation is done as root and root does not use *my* environment.
>
> the mono build search for a working python3 and find *my*
> > HOME/ext/x86
On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 at 19:02, Mark Bourne via Python-list
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>
> Martin Ruppert wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > the division 0.4/7 provides a wrong result. It should give a periodic
> > decimal fraction with at most six digits, but it doesn't.
> >
> > B
2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com wrote:
On 2024-12-14 at 12:08:29 +,
Mark Bourne via Python-list wrote:
Martin Ruppert wrote:
Hi,
the division 0.4/7 provides a wrong result. It should give a periodic
decimal fraction with at most six digits, but it doesn't.
Below is the comparis
On 2024-12-16, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote:
> If I read the answers I come to the conclusion that the "supporters"
> at python doesn't ever understand the problem.
You should definitely demand to speak to the manager and request your
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On 12/16/24 12:08 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote:
> If I read the answers I come to the conclusion that the "supporters" at
> python doesn't ever understand the problem.
Sorry you feel that way. Various people gave the best advice they could
based on what you had prov
On 12/13/24 1:56 PM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote:
> the problem is *not* to setup an environment variable, the problem is that
> python is *not*
> able to setup the *python* environment by it self.
You're mistaken in this case. Nothing you've posted indicates the
problem
On 12/14/24 2:56 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
> So it might be because it's in a different directory ("HOME/ext/..." is
> a relative path. That will not work in a different directory. Also
> "HOME" is a strange choice for a directory name. Did
if j>0:i=i.rstrip();print(i,end=' ');print(f"calc: {z}/{nen}")
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61);{z}/{nen}'")
j=0
for i in f:
if j>0:i=i.rstrip();print(i,end=' ');print(f"calc: {z}/{nen}")
j+=1
f.close()
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> The CORE problem is that python3 works well in *my* environment but the
> installation is done as root and root does not use *my* environment.
>
So, it's an environment problem, NOT a Python problem. You messed up
you
On 2024-12-14 at 12:08:29 +,
Mark Bourne via Python-list wrote:
> Martin Ruppert wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > the division 0.4/7 provides a wrong result. It should give a periodic
> > decimal fraction with at most six digits, but it doesn't.
> >
> &
.lname=="Doe").count()
>>> pc
1
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thank a lot Oleg.
have a nice day.
On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 4:56 PM Oleg Broytman via Python-list <
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> Hello!
>
> I'm pleased to announce version 3.12.0, the release of branch
> 3.12 of SQLObject.
>
>
> What's new in SQLObject
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 at 19:17, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list
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>
> Was just playing with numbers and stumbled on something I've never seen
> before.
...
>
> >>> 9**9**4
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "", line 1, in
> ValueEr
Are there any packages that offer this sort of thing? I'd prefer ones
from the Debian repositories but that's not absolutely necessary.
It might also be possible/useful to use the mouse for this.
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On 1/10/25 12:53, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 1/10/2025 4:00 PM, Tim Johnson via Python-list wrote:
On 1/10/25 11:32, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
,,, snipped
Below is the pertinent code:
Popen(choice, stdout=PIPE, stderr=PIPE,
stdin=PIPE, close_fds=True
art is that you find the clone() call that
returns the process id your code is waiting on.)
And, if it doesn't look like the above, then show what *does* it look like.
On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 10:03 PM Tim Johnson via Python-list
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>
>
> On 1/10/25 11:32, MRAB via Python-list wro
by them, nor will this library integrate with the other
libraries provided by the system. So, it's hard to imagine why your
users would want that.
On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 12:47 AM Chris Green via Python-list
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>
> Can one use pipx to wrap the process of creating an independent
On 1/10/2025 4:00 PM, Tim Johnson via Python-list wrote:
On 1/10/25 11:32, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
,,, snipped
Below is the pertinent code:
Popen(choice, stdout=PIPE, stderr=PIPE,
stdin=PIPE, close_fds=True)
My guess is my argument list is either insufficient or
data format (wav: using
speech_recognition's *get_wav_data*(), using numpy...)
Any suggestions (using Python 2.x)?
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On 2025-01-17, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
> On 15/01/2025 00:41, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
>> Alan Gauld writes:
>>> On 11/01/2025 14:28, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
>>>> I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode
On 1/17/25 12:03, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
Alan Gauld writes:
On 15/01/2025 00:41, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
Alan Gauld writes:
On 11/01/2025 14:28, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode input,
I ha
Alan Gauld writes:
> On 15/01/2025 00:41, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
>> Alan Gauld writes:
>>> On 11/01/2025 14:28, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
>>>> I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode input,
>>>
>>>
(Note: I have mail delivery disabled for this list and read it through
GMane, so I am unable to respond with correct threading if I'm not cc'ed
directly.)
On 1/17/25 7:26 PM, dn via Python-list wrote:
On 18/01/25 12:33, Ian Pilcher via Python-list wrote:
I am making my first atte
r user interface is intuitive in retrospect ... it isn't intuitive
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Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> [-- text/plain, encoding quoted-printable, charset: us-ascii, 32 lines --]
>
> On 2025-01-14 11:32:35 +, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
> > Use a virtual environment, what do I have to do then to make using
> > my program (t
Chris Green via Python-list writes:
> I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode input,
> i.e. for use with non-GUI programs that one runs from the command
> prompt in a terminal window running a bash shell or some such.
I'd suggest giving a try to https
あうぇくろ writes:
tpr=composite(type,print)
print(tpr('a')==tpr(1))
Why does tpr('a')==tpr(1) return True?
Because tpr always returns the value None.
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On 1/12/2025 7:11 AM, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
Stefan Ram wrote:
Chris Green wrote or quoted:
E.g. I want to install and use pksheet but, as it's not available from
the Debian repositories, I'll have to install it from PyPi.
I can't dig up any "pksheet"
On 1/13/2025 11:09 AM, Henry S. Thompson via Python-list wrote:
I've spent several days trying to get this example [1] working, using
Python3.11 and Cython 3.0.11 of Debian.
I've copied the example files as carefully as I can, renamed some to
avoid a name clash with the queue.py li
On 11/01/2025 14:28, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
> I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode input,
The standard package for this is curses which comes as part
of the standard library on *nix distros.
> What I'm specifically after is a way to provide
On 2025-01-13, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
> All of that is possible in curses, you just have to code it.
All of that is easy with curses in C. Unfortunately, the high level
"panel" and "menu" curses subystems that make it easy aren't included
in the Pytho
On 14/01/2025 00:20, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
> On 2025-01-13, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
>
>> All of that is possible in curses, you just have to code it.
>
> All of that is easy with curses in C. Unfortunately, the high level
> "panel" and &q
by the way, on (probably) just a couple of
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> This is what I was going to suggest. Rich is super easy to use.
OK, thanks, Rich is on my shortlist then.
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On 1/14/25 04:32, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
I have a (relatively) clean Debian 12 installation running on my two
workhorse systems, a desktop server at home and my laptop that travels
around with me.
I moved from Xubuntu to Debian on both these systems a few months ago.
I ran Xubuntu
example. Pipx is not
intended to install Python packages that are not applications.
Regrads,
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On 2025-01-14, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
> On 14/01/2025 00:20, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
>> On 2025-01-13, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
>>
>>> All of that is possible in curses, you just have to code it.
>>
>> All of that is easy w
having a difficult time installing Python-3.10.16.tgz using
the Python-3.20.0a2.exe installer.
Please Advise
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Alan Gauld wrote:
> On 14/01/2025 00:20, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
> > On 2025-01-13, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
> >
> >> All of that is possible in curses, you just have to code it.
> >
> > All of that is easy with curses in C. Unfortuna
and
use that. My PYTHONPATH will need to point to it but I can't see
any further issues with doing this.
Anything else? As far as I can see using pipx doesn't help me at
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On 1/13/25 22:47, roc str via Python-list wrote:
having a difficult time installing Python-3.10.16.tgz using
the Python-3.20.0a2.exe installer.
Please Advise
Mario Ramos.
Your question doesn't exactly make sense, but note this:
Windows installers are not built for "security bugfix
On 1/14/2025 6:32 AM, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
I have a (relatively) clean Debian 12 installation running on my two
workhorse systems, a desktop server at home and my laptop that travels
around with me.
I moved from Xubuntu to Debian on both these systems a few months ago.
I ran
Happy New Year, one and all. :)
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On 12/31/2024 7:00 PM, Tim Johnson via Python-list wrote:
Please let me grumble for a minute : I've been using python since before
1. 5, when I could email Guido van Rossum directly with questions
and on at least one occasion we swapped stories about our cats. I put
six kids though co
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> I am as of today, getting an import error for mutagen. Mutagen package
> is installed at /root/.local/share/pipx/shared/lib/python3.12/site-packages
> Pip-installed packages that go to /
.)
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ollowing component
> diagram?
>
>
> [image: checkso.PNG]
>
> Could it be improved for better description and readability?
>
>
> Thanks!
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it is here https://i.sstatic.net/ykk5Wd0w.png
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> On 12/24/24 10:27 AM, marc nicole via Python-list wrote:
> > the diagram is also attached here
>
> This text-only mailin
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On 12/24/24 10:27 AM, marc nicole via Python-list wrote:
> the diagram is also attached here
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the purpose of the diagram is to convey a minimalistic idea about the
structure of the code/implementation/software
Le mer. 25 déc. 2024 à 01:49, Thomas Passin via Python-list <
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> On 12/24/2024 3:42 PM, marc nicole via Python-list wrote:
> > i
mar. 24 déc. 2024 à 21:56, dn via Python-list a
écrit :
> On 25/12/24 06:27, marc nicole via Python-list wrote:
> > Hello community,
> >
> > I have created a Python code where a main algorithm uses three different
> > modules (.py) after importing them.
> >
> &g
ted to
> different functionalities) and use their methods accordingly as per the
> requirement: basically the structure of my code and how the modules relate
> to each other.
>
> Le mar. 24 déc. 2024 à 21:56, dn via Python-list
> a écrit :
>
>> On 25/12/24 06:27,
On 12/24/2024 4:08 PM, marc nicole via Python-list wrote:
The full python package (pypi) being represented as the outermost frame
here including the 4 sub-frames)
Le mar. 24 déc. 2024 à 22:05, marc nicole a écrit :
I want to convey the idea that main.py (main algorithm) imports 3 modules
(V
marc nicole via Python-list ezt írta (időpont:
2024. dec. 24., K 22:09):
> The full python package (pypi) being represented as the outermost frame
> here including the 4 sub-frames)
>
> Le mar. 24 déc. 2024 à 22:05, marc nicole a écrit :
>
> > I want to convey the id
On 12/24/2024 3:42 PM, marc nicole via Python-list wrote:
it is here https://i.sstatic.net/ykk5Wd0w.png
This diagram does not make much sense to me:
1. What is the purpose of the diagram and who is it intended for?
2. A module and an algorithm are different kinds of things, yet they are
On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list
wrote:
> It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* error because:
>
> 1) "cnf" is using OS python
> 2) os "root" python
> 3) using **my** local non-root library
Yes. And YOU were the one wh
On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 14:52:23 +0400
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer via Python-list wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org)
> these last times.
>
> I think that it definitely lacks some of the joys of the mailing list:
>
>
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