Re: no sign() function ?

2008-12-24 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > sign_0 : 0.375 > > sign_1 : 0.444 (+18%) > > sign_2 : 0.661 (+76%) > > sign_3 : 0.498 (+33%) > > > Looking at those results, and remembering that each time is for one > million iterations of one thousand calls each, one million iteration only, that's enough but yes

Re: Strategy for determing difference between 2 very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread Malcolm Greene
Hi Roger, By very large dictionary, I mean about 25M items per dictionary. Each item is a simple integer whose value will never exceed 2^15. I populate these dictionaries by parsing very large ASCII text files containing detailed manufacturing events. From each line in my log file I construct one

Re: Most efficient way to build very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread Roger Binns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 pyt...@bdurham.com wrote: > I would appreciate your thoughts on whether there are advantages to > working with a pre-built dictionary and if so, what are the best ways to > create a pre-loaded dictionary. Based on this and your other thread, you may w

Re: Strategy for determing difference between 2 very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread python
Hi Gabriel, Thank you very much for your feedback! > k1 = set(dict1.iterkeys()) I noticed you suggested .iterkeys() vs. .keys(). Is there any advantage to using an iterator vs. a list as the basis for creating a set? I understand that an iterator makes sense if you're working with a large set of

Re: Most efficient way to build very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread Roger Binns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 pyt...@bdurham.com wrote: > Can I take advantage of this knowledge to optimize You do the optimization last :-) The first thing you need to do is make sure you have a way of validating you got the correct results. With 25M entries it would be very e

Re: Strategy for determing difference between 2 very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:23:00 -0500, python wrote: > Hi Gabriel, > > Thank you very much for your feedback! > >> k1 = set(dict1.iterkeys()) > > I noticed you suggested .iterkeys() vs. .keys(). Is there any advantage > to using an iterator vs. a list as the basis for creating a set? I > understan

Re: Most efficient way to build very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread python
Hi Roger, > you may want to consider using SQLite Thank you for your suggestion about looking at SQLite. I haven't compared the performance of SQLite to Python dictionaries, but I'm skeptical that SQLite would be faster than in-memory Python dictionaries for the type of analysis I'm doing. Prior

Re: Strategy for determing difference between 2 very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread python
Hi Marc, > `keys()` creates a list in memory, `iterkeys()` does not. With > ``set(dict.keys())`` there is a point in time where the dictionary, the > list, and the set co-exist in memory. With ``set(dict.iterkeys())`` > only the set and the dictionary exist in memory. Perfect explanation. Than

Re: Multi-dimension list

2008-12-24 Thread James Stroud
Steven Woody wrote: Hi, In the book Python Essential Reference, Chapter 3, when talking about extended slicing, it gives an example: a = m[0:10, 3:20]. But I don't understand how the 'm' was defined. What should it looks like? m could be an instance of the Krayzee class. py> class Krayzee(

Re: Strategy for determing difference between 2 very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread Peter Otten
Gabriel Genellina wrote: > En Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:16:36 -0200, escribió: [I didn't see the original post] >> I'm looking for suggestions on the best ('Pythonic') way to >> determine the difference between 2 very large dictionaries >> containing simple key/value pairs. >> By difference, I mean a

Re: Most efficient way to build very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread Roger Binns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 pyt...@bdurham.com wrote: > Thank you for your suggestion about looking at SQLite. I haven't > compared the performance of SQLite to Python dictionaries, but I'm > skeptical that SQLite would be faster than in-memory Python dictionaries > for the type

Re: Strategy for determing difference between 2 very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread James Stroud
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote: On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:23:00 -0500, python wrote: Hi Gabriel, Thank you very much for your feedback! k1 = set(dict1.iterkeys()) I noticed you suggested .iterkeys() vs. .keys(). Is there any advantage to using an iterator vs. a list as the basis for creating a

Re: Strategy for determing difference between 2 very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread python
Hi James, > For the purpose of perpetuating the annoying pedantry that has made > usenet great: > > http://docs.python.org/dev/3.0/whatsnew/3.0.html#views-and-iterators-instead-of-lists Great tip! Thank you! Malcolm -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Strategy for determing difference between 2 very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:23:00 -0200, escribió: Hi Gabriel, Thank you very much for your feedback! k1 = set(dict1.iterkeys()) I noticed you suggested .iterkeys() vs. .keys(). Is there any advantage to using an iterator vs. a list as the basis for creating a set? I You've got an excelent ex

Re: Most efficient way to build very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread python
Hi Roger, > The performance improvements you are seeing with Python over Oracle are > exactly the same range people see with SQLite over Oracle. One common usage > reported on the SQLite mailing list is people copying data out of Oracle and > running their analysis in SQLite because of the perf

Re: Strategy for determing difference between 2 very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread python
Hi Peter, If you are not interested in the intermediate results and the dictionary values are hashable you can get the difference by >>> a = dict(a=1, b=2, c=3) >>> b = dict(b=2, c=30, d=4) >>> dict(set(a.iteritems()) ^ set(b.iteritems())) {'a': 1, 'c': 3, 'd': 4} That's very cool! Thanks for

Re: Strategy for determing difference between 2 very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread Malcolm Greene
Hi Gabriel, > in Python 3.0 keys() behaves as iterkeys() in previous versions, so the above > code is supposed to be written in Python 2.x) I understand. Thank you. > note that dict comprehensions require Python 3.0 I'm relieved to know that I didn't miss that feature in my reading of Python's

SyntaxError: encoding problem: with BOM

2008-12-24 Thread NoName
i have 1.py in cp866 encoding: # -*- coding: cp866 -*- print ("ff") It's not work in Python 3.0 Error: File "", line 1 SyntaxError: encoding problem: with BOM what's wrong? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Most efficient way to build very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread Martin
Hi, 2008/12/24 : > Hi Roger, > >> you may want to consider using SQLite > > Thank you for your suggestion about looking at SQLite. I haven't > compared the performance of SQLite to Python dictionaries, but I'm > skeptical that SQLite would be faster than in-memory Python dictionaries > for the ty

Re: Most efficient way to build very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread Roger Binns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin wrote: > I'd think he's talking about in memory SQLite Databases, this way you > should be quite fast _and_ could dump all that to a persistent > storage... I was just talking about regular on disk SQLite databases. In terms of priming the pum

Re: Strategy for determing difference between 2 very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread bearophileHUGS
Peter Otten: > >>> a = dict(a=1, b=2, c=3) > >>> b = dict(b=2, c=30, d=4) > >>> dict(set(a.iteritems()) ^ set(b.iteritems())) For larger sets this may be better, may avoid the creation of the second set: dict(set(a.iteritems()).symmetric_difference(b.iteritems())) Bye, bearophile -- http://mail.

Re: Multi-dimension list

2008-12-24 Thread Steve Holden
James Stroud wrote: > Steven Woody wrote: >> Hi, >> >> In the book Python Essential Reference, Chapter 3, when talking about >> extended slicing, it gives an example: a = m[0:10, 3:20]. But I >> don't understand how the 'm' was defined. What should it looks like? > > m could be an instance of t

Re: SyntaxError: encoding problem: with BOM

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NoName schrieb: i have 1.py in cp866 encoding: # -*- coding: cp866 -*- print ("ff") It's not work in Python 3.0 Error: File "", line 1 SyntaxError: encoding problem: with BOM what's wrong? I can only guess, but just because you write the coding-header that doesn't mean that the editor yo

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2008-12-24 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
Hello If I have an extension module and want to use an exception I can do by declaring the exception as "extern PyObject *PyExc_FooError" in the object files if I then link those together inside a module where the module has them declared the same (but no extern) and then initialises them in the P

Re: python web programming for PHP programmers

2008-12-24 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Nikola Skoric schrieb: I0m a python newbie with PHP background. I've tried to make a web app from one of my python scripts (which I haven't done before) and I ended up with: which works really nice :-D For some reason I can't find no "quick and dirty python web programming tutorial for PHP pro

Re: SyntaxError: encoding problem: with BOM

2008-12-24 Thread NoName
On 25 дек, 00:37, "Diez B. Roggisch" wrote: > NoName schrieb: > > > i have 1.py in cp866 encoding: > > > # -*- coding: cp866 -*- > > print ("ff") > > > It's not work in Python 3.0 > > Error: > > > File "", line 1 > > SyntaxError: encoding problem: with BOM > > > what's wrong? > > I can only guess,

Re: python web programming for PHP programmers

2008-12-24 Thread Federico Moreira
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Custom C Exception Subclasses

2008-12-24 Thread Ross
For a project that I am doing, it would be useful to have an exception class that stores some additional data along with the message. However, I want to be able to store a couple pointers to C++ classes, so I can't just use an exception created with PyExc_NewException. If I were to subclass the bu

Re: python web programming for PHP programmers

2008-12-24 Thread ajaksu
On Dec 24, 12:40 pm, Nikola Skoric wrote: > I0m a python newbie with PHP background. I've tried to make a web app > from one of my python scripts (which I haven't done before) and I > ended up with: > > echo shell_exec("python foobar.py"); > ?> > which works really nice :-D Clever :) Python can

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2008-12-24 Thread Dennis van Oosterhout
I know that python is an Object Oriënted language but I was wondering if it gets used as a non-OOP also (by a good amount of people). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: no sign() function ?

2008-12-24 Thread ajaksu
On Dec 24, 5:59 am, pdora...@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com (Pierre-Alain Dorange) wrote: > > For me sign_0 is the simplest one to understood. > So in the domain of my little arcade game, this is what i'll use. > I don't need the accuraccy of sign_1, because in the application i just > need to know if th

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2008-12-24 Thread skip
Dennis> I know that python is an Object Oriënted language but I was Dennis> wondering if it gets used as a non-OOP also (by a good amount of Dennis> people). Oh yeah. Works great for writing quick-n-dirty Unix filters which are a bit more complex than can comfortably be wrangled with

How to change a generator ?

2008-12-24 Thread Barak, Ron
Hi, I have a generator whose aim is to returns consecutive lines from a file (the listing below is a simplified version). However, as it is written now, the generator method changes the text file pointer to end of file after first invocation. Namely, the file pointer changes from 0 to 6623 on li

Re: Using exceptions in defined in an extension module inside another extension module

2008-12-24 Thread Christian Heimes
Floris Bruynooghe schrieb: > What I can't work out however is how to then be able to raise this > exception in another extension module. Just defining it as "extern" > doesn't work, even if I make sure the first module -that creates the > exception- gets loaded first. Because the symbol is define

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Re: SyntaxError: encoding problem: with BOM

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Re: python web programming for PHP programmers

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Re: How to change a generator ?

2008-12-24 Thread MRAB
Barak, Ron wrote: Hi, I have a generator whose aim is to returns consecutive lines from a file (the listing below is a simplified version). However, as it is written now, the generator method changes the text file pointer to end of file after first invocation. Namely, the file pointer change

Re: Custom C Exception Subclasses

2008-12-24 Thread Ivan Illarionov
On Dec 24, 6:42 pm, Ross wrote: > For a project that I am doing, it would be useful to have an exception > class that stores some additional data along with the message. > However, I want to be able to store a couple pointers to C++ classes, > so I can't just use an exception created with PyExc_Ne

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Re: Custom C Exception Subclasses

2008-12-24 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:42:38 -0200, Ross escribió: For a project that I am doing, it would be useful to have an exception class that stores some additional data along with the message. However, I want to be able to store a couple pointers to C++ classes, so I can't just use an exception created

Re: How to change a generator ?

2008-12-24 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:03:58 -0200, MRAB escribió: I have a generator whose aim is to returns consecutive lines from a file (the listing below is a simplified version). However, as it is written now, the generator method changes the text file pointer to end of file after first invocation.

Iterating over objects of a class

2008-12-24 Thread Kottiyath
Hi, How can I iterate over all the objects of a class? I wrote the code like following: class baseClass(object): __registry = [] def __init__(self, name): self.__registry.append(self) self.name = name def __iter__(self): baseClass.item = 0 return

Re: Custom C Exception Subclasses

2008-12-24 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:00:36 -0200, Ivan Illarionov escribió: On Dec 24, 6:42 pm, Ross wrote: For a project that I am doing, it would be useful to have an exception class that stores some additional data along with the message. However, I want to be able to store a couple pointers to C++ cl

Re: Iterating over objects of a class

2008-12-24 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Kottiyath schrieb: Hi, How can I iterate over all the objects of a class? I wrote the code like following: class baseClass(object): Consider adopting PEP 8 coding conventions. __registry = [] def __init__(self, name): self.__registry.append(self) self.name = n

Re: How to change a generator ?

2008-12-24 Thread MRAB
Gabriel Genellina wrote: En Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:03:58 -0200, MRAB escribió: I have a generator whose aim is to returns consecutive lines from a file (the listing below is a simplified version). However, as it is written now, the generator method changes the text file pointer to end of file

Re: Iterating over objects of a class

2008-12-24 Thread MRAB
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: Kottiyath schrieb: Hi, How can I iterate over all the objects of a class? I wrote the code like following: class baseClass(object): Consider adopting PEP 8 coding conventions. __registry = [] def __init__(self, name): self.__registry.append(se

Re: Iterating over objects of a class

2008-12-24 Thread Kottiyath
On Dec 24, 10:52 pm, "Diez B. Roggisch" wrote: > Kottiyath schrieb: > > > Hi, > >    How can I iterate over all the objects of a class? > >    I wrote the code like following: > > class baseClass(object): > > Consider adopting PEP 8  coding conventions. > > > > >     __registry = [] > > >     def

Re: Iterating over objects of a class

2008-12-24 Thread Kottiyath
On Dec 24, 11:04 pm, MRAB wrote: > Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > > Kottiyath schrieb: > >> Hi, > >>    How can I iterate over all the objects of a class? > >>    I wrote the code like following: > >> class baseClass(object): > > > Consider adopting PEP 8  coding conventions. > > >>     __registry = []

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Re: Custom C Exception Subclasses

2008-12-24 Thread Ross
On Dec 24, 9:24 am, "Gabriel Genellina" wrote: > In fact you can, you could store those pointers as attributes of the > exception object, using a PyCObject. Excellent. I was not aware of the PyCObject type. > Accessing those attributes isn't as easy as doing exc->field, but I think > it's easy

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2008-12-24 Thread Brad Causey
Python Version: Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Feb 21 2008, 13:11:45) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 List, I am trying to do some basic log parsing, and well, I am absolutely floored at this seemingly simple problem. I am by no means a novice in python, but yet this is really stumping me. I have

Re: Iterating over objects of a class

2008-12-24 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:18:55 -0200, Kottiyath escribió: The other thing to remember is that because the 'registry' contains references to the instances, they won't be garbage collected. Is there any other way out in this case? I have factory methods - and I have to loop over them - sort of

Re: String Comparison Testing

2008-12-24 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:20:17 -0200, Brad Causey escribió: I am trying to do some basic log parsing, and well, I am absolutely floored at this seemingly simple problem. I am by no means a novice in python, but yet this is really stumping me. I have extracted the pertinent code snippets an

Re: Iterating over objects of a class

2008-12-24 Thread Kottiyath
On Dec 24, 11:48 pm, "Gabriel Genellina" wrote: > En Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:18:55 -0200, Kottiyath   > escribió: > > >> The other thing to remember is that because the 'registry' contains > >> references to the instances, they won't be garbage collected. > > > Is there any other way out in this case

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2008-12-24 Thread MRAB
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Hi, I'm writing an application which is structured roughly as follows: "db" is a dict, where the values are also dicts. A function searches through db and returns a list of values, each of which is a dict as described above. I need to perform set operations on these lists (intersection and union)

Re: Strategy for determing difference between 2 very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread Scott David Daniels
Gabriel Genellina wrote: En Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:23:00 -0200, escribió: ... k1 = set(dict1.iterkeys()) You've got an excelent explanation from Marc Rintsch. (Note that in Python 3.0 keys() behaves as iterkeys() in previous versions, so the above code is supposed to be written in Python 2.x)

Re: Custom C Exception Subclasses

2008-12-24 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:48:34 -0200, Gabriel Genellina escribió: En Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:00:36 -0200, Ivan Illarionov escribió: When you raise an exception in C++ you can set it to ANY Python object via PyErr_SetObject and that object could store pointers to C++ classes. Remember that ex

Re: Iterating over objects of a class

2008-12-24 Thread Scott David Daniels
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Re: Doing set operation on non-hashable objects

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En Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:16:59 -0200, <5lvqbw...@sneakemail.com> escribió: I'm writing an application which is structured roughly as follows: "db" is a dict, where the values are also dicts. A function searches through db and returns a list of values, each of which is a dict as described above. I

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On Dec 24, 1:16 pm, 5lvqbw...@sneakemail.com wrote: > Hi, > > I'm writing an application which is structured roughly as follows: > > "db" is a dict, where the values are also dicts. > A function searches through db and returns a list of values, each of > which is a dict as described above. > I need

Re: New Python 3.0 string formatting - really necessary?

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Re: Using exceptions in defined in an extension module inside another extension module

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Christian Heimes wrote: > Floris Bruynooghe schrieb: > > What I can't work out however is how to then be able to raise this > > exception in another extension module. Just defining it as "extern" > > doesn't work, even if I make sure the first module -that creates the > > exception- gets loaded

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Re: Python's popularity

2008-12-24 Thread r
On Dec 24, 1:19 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:06:35 -0800, the anonymous troll known only as "r" > replied to Thorsten Kampe and said: > > > Thats "Thurstan", thank you very much! :) > > I think Thorsten knows how to spell his own name. > > -- > Steven OK Steven, you caught

Easy-to-use Python GUI

2008-12-24 Thread Joel Koltner
Is there an easy-to-use, "function"-based cross-platform GUI toolkit for Python out there that's a little more sophisticated than EasyGui? EasyGui looks good, but it's a little more restrictive than what I'd like to have, yet I'm (stubbornly :-) ) resistant to stepping up to a "full service" GU

Re: Custom C Exception Subclasses

2008-12-24 Thread Ivan Illarionov
On Dec 24, 10:43 pm, "Gabriel Genellina" wrote: > En Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:48:34 -0200, Gabriel Genellina   > escribió: > > > En Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:00:36 -0200, Ivan Illarionov   > > escribió: > > >> When you raise an exception in C++ you can set it to ANY Python object > >> via PyErr_SetObject a

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Re: Python's popularity

2008-12-24 Thread Kevin Kelley
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:38 AM, r wrote: > > School time son, > This forum is much more than a question answer session, son. Sure > people are welcome to ask a Python related question. But this forum is > really the main highway of Python development and future. If your a > n00b go to the "Pyth

Re: Easy-to-use Python GUI

2008-12-24 Thread Mike Driscoll
On Dec 24, 5:47 pm, "Joel Koltner" wrote: > Is there an easy-to-use, "function"-based cross-platform GUI toolkit for > Python out there that's a little more sophisticated than EasyGui?  EasyGui > looks good, but it's a little more restrictive than what I'd like to have, yet > I'm (stubbornly :-) )

Re: Easy-to-use Python GUI

2008-12-24 Thread Sponge Nebson
On Dec 24, 3:47 pm, "Joel Koltner" wrote: > Is there an easy-to-use, "function"-based cross-platform GUI toolkit for > Python out there that's a little more sophisticated than EasyGui?  EasyGui > looks good, but it's a little more restrictive than what I'd like to have, yet > I'm (stubbornly :-) )

Re: PythonCard timer/thread tutorial

2008-12-24 Thread Mike Driscoll
On Dec 24, 4:56 pm, Sponge Nebson wrote: > Hello all, > > This is my first post. Nice to meet you all! Could one of you walk me > through this code? > >    def myThread(*argtuple): >         """ >         A little thread we've added >         """ >         print "myThread: entered" >         q = a

ctypes & strings

2008-12-24 Thread Red Rackham
Hi friends;   I would like to pass a string into a dll function.  I notice that to pass using ctypes, it has to be a ctypes type.  Looking at the ctypes doc page I don't see a c_string class.    I tried to pass in byref("name of string") and got back "TypeError: byref() argument must be a ctype

Re: socket send help

2008-12-24 Thread greyw...@gmail.com
Chris & Gabriel, Thank you so much. My simple example now works. It was very frustrating that even the simple example didn't work, so your help is most appreciated. b'hello world' was the key. As for the error, I do still get it with 3.0 final so I'll go ahead and report it. John. On Dec 24,

Re: Strategy for determing difference between 2 very large dictionaries

2008-12-24 Thread John Machin
On Dec 24, 7:04 pm, "Malcolm Greene" wrote: > Hi Roger, > > By very large dictionary, I mean about 25M items per dictionary. Each > item is a simple integer whose value will never exceed 2^15. In Python-speak about dictionaries, an "item" is a tuple (key, value). I presume from the gross differen

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Re: Easy-to-use Python GUI

2008-12-24 Thread ajaksu
On Dec 24, 9:47 pm, "Joel Koltner" wrote: >  Dim dlg As UserDialog > >  dlg.genDrill = 1 >  ReDim DrillStyle(1) >  DrillStyle(0) = "All Via Layers In One File" >  DrillStyle(1) = "One File Per Via Layer" >  dlg.drillStyle = 1 > >  func=Dialog(dlg) > > --- > > This is pretty darned easy for me und

Re: Python 3 and my Mac (Leopard)

2008-12-24 Thread Mark
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Dan wrote: > > Wanted to learn python, got Mark Summerfield's new book "Programming in > Python 3". Having a hard time getting python 3 and IDLE working on my Mac > with Leopard. The mac "resources" on the python.org site seem a bit out of > date, and don't re

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Re: Easy-to-use Python GUI

2008-12-24 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
> Is there an easy-to-use, "function"-based cross-platform GUI toolkit for > Python out there that's a little more sophisticated than EasyGui? EasyGui > looks good, but it's a little more restrictive than what I'd like to have, > yet > I'm (stubbornly :-) ) resistant to stepping up to a "full serv

RE: Python advocacy . HELP!

2008-12-24 Thread Sells, Fred
Prof. Kanabar (kanabar.bu.edu) is planning to offer a python course there soon. Perhaps he could help. Tell him you got his name from me (Fred Sells). > -Original Message- > From: python-list-bounces+frsells=adventistcare@python.org > [mailto:python-list-bounces+frsells=adventistcar

contour in python

2008-12-24 Thread Ayat Rezaee
 Hello, I need your help,  I want to make a plot something like this program,    import Numeric as N    from contour import contour    x = N.arange(25) * 15.0 - 180.0    y = N.arange(13) * 15.0 - 90.0     data = N.outerproduct(N.sin(y*N.pi/360.), N.cos(x*N.pi/360.)) contour (data, x, y, title='Exa

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Re: Easy-to-use Python GUI

2008-12-24 Thread Raven
On 25 дек, 06:47, "Joel Koltner" wrote: > Is there an easy-to-use, "function"-based cross-platform GUI toolkit for > Python out there that's a little more sophisticated than EasyGui?  EasyGui > looks good, but it's a little more restrictive than what I'd like to have, yet > I'm (stubbornly :-) ) r

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