Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-30 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-12-27, Chris Green via Python-list wrote: > Cameron Simpson wrote: >> On 25Dec2024 14:52, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: >> >I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org) >> >these last times. >> > >> >I think that it definitely lacks some of the joys of the maili

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-30 Thread Erik Max Francis via Python-list
On 12/27/24 00:58, Chris Green via Python-list wrote: Yes, it's the one saving grace of a Discourse forum, you can use it by E-Mail and it behaves quite nicely with a text mode E-Mail client such as mutt so you can keep threads separate, follow sub-threads, etc. Not quite as good as this list g

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-29 Thread Chris Green via Python-list
Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 25Dec2024 14:52, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > >I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org) > >these last times. > > > >I think that it definitely lacks some of the joys of the mailing list: > > FYI, it has a very good "mailing list" mode.

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-29 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 12/29/24 15:10, Cameron Simpson via Python-list wrote: On 29Dec2024 07:16, Kevin M. Wilson wrote: Excuse please, my failure. As I have not been following this discussion, why is the subject "Python List Is NOT Dead" a subject for discussion? Has the list been moving towards closing? No, t

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-29 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
On 29Dec2024 07:16, Kevin M. Wilson wrote: Excuse please, my failure. As I have not been following this discussion, why is the subject "Python List Is NOT Dead" a subject for discussion? Has the list been moving towards closing? No, the list's still around. But there was a significant migrat

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-28 Thread Kevin M. Wilson via Python-list
Excuse please, my failure. As I have not been following this discussion, why is the subject "Python List Is NOT Dead" a subject for discussion? Has the list been moving towards closing? KMW *** "When you pass through the waters, I will be with you:

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-28 Thread Mohammadreza Saveji via Python-list
thank you Mr. Jahangir. you are expert in python. On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:28 AM Cameron Simpson via Python-list < python-list@python.org> wrote: > On 25Dec2024 14:52, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > >I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org) > >these last times. > >

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-26 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
On 25Dec2024 14:52, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org) these last times. I think that it definitely lacks some of the joys of the mailing list: FYI, it has a very good "mailing list" mode. I use it that was >90% of the time, a

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-26 Thread dn via Python-list
On 25/12/24 23:52, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer via Python-list wrote: Hey all, I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org) these last times. I think that it definitely lacks some of the joys of the mailing list: 1/ Categories The discussion has fixed categories. No channe

Re: Python List is Not Dead

2024-12-25 Thread Schimon Jehudah via Python-list
Abdur-Rahmaan. Good afternoon! I think, that if project Discourse would want to preserve and increase its popularity, then it should realize XMPP PubSub to communicate and manage posts, which is what project Libervia will do in near future. I use BitMessage, Email, LXMF, MQTT, and XMPP to communi

RE: Python-list Digest, Vol 242, Issue 3

2023-11-04 Thread bart.kuijer via Python-list
I don 't understand the meaning of this mail Verzonden vanaf mijn Galaxy Oorspronkelijk bericht Van: python-list-requ...@python.org Datum: 04-11-23 17:01 (GMT+01:00) Aan: python-list@python.org Onderwerp: Python-list Digest, Vol 242, Issue 3 Send Python-list mailing list submis

Re: Python list insert iterators

2023-03-04 Thread Weatherby,Gerard
Python lists are arrays in other languages. You’ll have to roll your own or find something in https://pypi.org, etc. I think this incomplete implementation does the trick. # # MIT licensed # from dataclasses import dataclass from typing import TypeVar, Generic T = TypeVar("T") @dataclass clas

Re: Python list insert iterators

2023-03-03 Thread Alan Bawden
Guenther Sohler writes: Hi Python community, I have a got an example list like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 T T and i eventually want to insert items in the given locations (A shall go between 2 and 3, B shall go between 6 and 7) Right now i just use ind

Re: Python list insert iterators

2023-03-03 Thread dn via Python-list
On 03/03/2023 21.22, Guenther Sohler wrote: Hi Python community, I have a got an example list like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 T T and i eventually want to insert items in the given locations (A shall go between 2 and 3, B shall go between 6 and 7) Right now i jus

RE: Python list insert iterators

2023-03-03 Thread avi.e.gross
bject: Re: Python list insert iterators On 3/3/2023 3:22 AM, Guenther Sohler wrote: > Hi Python community, > > I have a got an example list like > > 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 > T T > > and i eventually want to insert items in the given location

Re: Python list insert iterators

2023-03-03 Thread Thomas Passin
On 3/3/2023 3:22 AM, Guenther Sohler wrote: Hi Python community, I have a got an example list like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 T T and i eventually want to insert items in the given locations (A shall go between 2 and 3, B shall go between 6 and 7) Right now i jus

RE: Python-list Digest, Vol 232, Issue 1

2023-01-02 Thread avi.e.gross
Python-list On Behalf Of Christman, Roger Graydon Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2023 7:31 PM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 232, Issue 1 Re: Nonetype List In my introductory programming course, I have drawn some attention to this behavior regarding mutating lists. In

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 232, Issue 1

2023-01-01 Thread Christman, Roger Graydon
Re: Nonetype List In my introductory programming course, I have drawn some attention to this behavior regarding mutating lists. Indeed, Python is very consistent with its behavior: Any function that mutates a list parameter does not return that list as a return value. For one thing, there is

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 227, Issue 3

2022-08-03 Thread Leif Svalgaard
I also get 'file not found' when trying to let Spyder [v5.2] select the newly installed 3.10.6, and the path length is a lot less than 256. On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 9:03 AM wrote: > Send Python-list mailing list submissions to > python-list@python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via t

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 213, Issue 24

2021-06-23 Thread Ayaana Soni
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Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 201, Issue 9

2020-06-09 Thread Rhodri James
On 09/06/2020 18:31, Joseph Jenne via Python-list wrote: On 2020-06-09 09:00, zljubi...@gmail.com wrote: Well the problem that I am facing with is, that I have to establish interface between python and outer system. Original question was about creation of input object (data that I have recei

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 201, Issue 9

2020-06-09 Thread Joseph Jenne via Python-list
On 2020-06-09 09:00, zljubi...@gmail.com wrote: Well the problem that I am facing with is, that I have to establish interface between python and outer system. Original question was about creation of input object (data that I have received from outer system). If I accept recommendation to use

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 196, Issue 26

2020-01-27 Thread DL Neil via Python-list
On 28/01/20 5:17 AM, Michael Torrie wrote: On 1/27/20 12:03 AM, אורי wrote: Please don't reply to digest. Replying to a digest is just fine. Just make sure to change the subject line in the future so people know what it's referring to. Excepting that whilst this practice (subject to faithful

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 196, Issue 26

2020-01-27 Thread Michael Torrie
On 1/27/20 12:03 AM, אורי wrote: > Please don't reply to digest. Replying to a digest is just fine. Just make sure to change the subject line in the future so people know what it's referring to. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 196, Issue 26

2020-01-26 Thread אורי
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RE: Python-list Digest, Vol 196, Issue 26

2020-01-26 Thread Francois van Lieshout
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Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 189, Issue 17

2019-06-17 Thread אורי
Please don't reply to digest. אורי u...@speedy.net On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 6:01 PM Schachner, Joseph < joseph.schach...@teledyne.com> wrote: > Please see https://docs.python.org/2/library/colorsys.html > > And follow the links in there, read the FAQ. > > You'll find that python represents RGB va

RE: Python-list Digest, Vol 189, Issue 17

2019-06-17 Thread Schachner, Joseph
Please see https://docs.python.org/2/library/colorsys.html And follow the links in there, read the FAQ. You'll find that python represents RGB values in three numeric values. Very simple. I believe scale is 0.0 to 1.0. --- Joseph S. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf O

Re: Python list and Python Journeymen*

2019-04-13 Thread Arup Rakshit
Hello DL Neil, Thanks for taking time to read me email and writing this reply. I will refer it time to time, mainly the resources. I spent just 7 years in this programming industry. One last thing, I would like to ask/repeat again. Larry Wall said [5 Programming Languages Everyone Should Know]

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 186, Issue 31

2019-03-30 Thread Alexey Muranov
On ven., Mar 29, 2019 at 4:51 PM, python-list-requ...@python.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 2:30 PM Alexey Muranov wrote: On jeu., mars 28, 2019 at 8:57 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > Throwing the name away is foolish. Testing functions is another > situation in which function names are

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 183, Issue 13

2018-12-13 Thread Afriyie Abraham Kwabena
Hi, Thanks for the reply maybe I did not explain myself very well but is it possible to apply this scenario to a database server like MySQL where I can write some python code to post, get, delete, etc to the database? However the client (python code I have to write ) have to be authenticated an

Re: Python-List is a tyrannical, one-party dictatorship that hates free speech!

2018-07-17 Thread MGHSM
ObXkcd: https://xkcd.com/1357/ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Folk etymology, was Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 18 June 2018 19:24:14 Jim Lee wrote: > On 06/18/2018 04:09 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote: > > Peter Otten wrote: > >> "folk etymology" would be the retrofitting of the exotic "Schottky" > >> into two familiar words "shot" and "key". Sometimes the writer > >> assumes that these words are someho

Re: Folk etymology, was Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-18 Thread Jim Lee
On 06/18/2018 04:09 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote: Peter Otten wrote: "folk etymology" would be the retrofitting of the exotic "Schottky" into two familiar words "shot" and "key". Sometimes the writer assumes that these words are somehow related to the labeled object. Well, there is a thing call

Re: Folk etymology, was Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-18 Thread Gregory Ewing
Peter Otten wrote: "folk etymology" would be the retrofitting of the exotic "Schottky" into two familiar words "shot" and "key". Sometimes the writer assumes that these words are somehow related to the labeled object. Well, there is a thing called "shot noise", and you can probaby get it from

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 18 June 2018 11:45:45 Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes: > > Gene Heskett wrote: > >> This biggest single thing wrong with any of those old scsi > >> interfaces is the bus's 5 volt isolation diode, the designer speced > >> a shotkey(sp) diode, and some damned be

Re: Folk etymology, was Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-18 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes: > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2018-06-18, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >>> Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes: >>> Gene Heskett wrote: > This biggest single thing wrong with any of those old scsi interfaces > is the bus's 5 volt isolation diode,

Folk etymology, was Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-18 Thread Peter Otten
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2018-06-18, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >> Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes: >> >>> Gene Heskett wrote: >>> This biggest single thing wrong with any of those old scsi interfaces is the bus's 5 volt isolation diode, the designer speced a shotkey(sp) diode, and

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-06-18, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> >>> This biggest single thing wrong with any of those old scsi interfaces is >>> the bus's 5 volt isolation diode, the designer speced a shotkey(sp) >>> diode, and some damned bean counter saw t

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-18 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes: > Gene Heskett wrote: > >> This biggest single thing wrong with any of those old scsi interfaces is >> the bus's 5 volt isolation diode, the designer speced a shotkey(sp) >> diode, and some damned bean counter saw the price diff and changed it to > > Is this

Re: Technical altitude, was Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-18 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 15:59:58 +0200, Peter Otten wrote: > Other than that I find it hard to believe that a "bean counter" can > change a technical spec. He may put pressure on the designer, but when > the designer gives in he's still responsible for the resulting technical > problems. Surely it de

Technical altitude, was Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-18 Thread Peter Otten
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 18 June 2018 09:16:10 Peter Otten wrote: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> > This biggest single thing wrong with any of those old scsi >> > interfaces is the bus's 5 volt isolation diode, the designer speced >> > a shotkey(sp) diode, and some damned bean counter saw the

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 18 June 2018 09:16:10 Peter Otten wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > This biggest single thing wrong with any of those old scsi > > interfaces is the bus's 5 volt isolation diode, the designer speced > > a shotkey(sp) diode, and some damned bean counter saw the price diff > > and changed i

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-18 Thread Peter Otten
Gene Heskett wrote: > This biggest single thing wrong with any of those old scsi interfaces is > the bus's 5 volt isolation diode, the designer speced a shotkey(sp) > diode, and some damned bean counter saw the price diff and changed it to Is this a case of

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-18 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 09:32:05 -0700, T Berger wrote: > On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:55:59 AM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote: >> Perhaps quantity is not the important thing here. > > It is the important thing. I'm stuck with a problem and still waiting > for replies to my email. I've decided to repo

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 15 June 2018 23:52:12 Gregory Ewing wrote: > Jim Lee wrote: > > It was so long ago that I forgot some of the > > details, but it boiled down to the TWAIN driver pushing the SCSI bus > > out of spec. > > Clearly you didn't sacrifice enough goats! > > https://odetocode.com/blogs/scott/arch

Re: Scanner freakishness [was Re: Python list vs google group]

2018-06-16 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 10:58 AM, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Alister wrote: >> >> A few quick tests later confirmed that whenever the photocopier made >> multiple copies (approx 10+) the circuit would reset >> Cust advised to relocate photocopier, case closed :-) > > > I was expecting the solution to

Re: Scanner freakishness [was Re: Python list vs google group]

2018-06-16 Thread Gregory Ewing
Alister wrote: A few quick tests later confirmed that whenever the photocopier made multiple copies (approx 10+) the circuit would reset Cust advised to relocate photocopier, case closed :-) I was expecting the solution to be a note attached to the photocopier saying "Please do not make more

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-16 Thread Jim Lee
On 06/16/2018 12:38 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 9:14:13 PM UTC-5, Richard Damon wrote: if the Windows driver broke some specification but still sort of worked [...] ...that's when the engineers in the Redmond, WA area know it's time to package and ship the product!

Re: Scanner freakishness [was Re: Python list vs google group]

2018-06-16 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:25:52 -0400, William Ray Wing wrote: >> On Jun 16, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Steven D'Aprano >> wrote: >> >> On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:54:15 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Jim Lee wrote: >> I once had a Mustek color scanner that came wit

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-16 Thread Rick Johnson
On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 9:14:13 PM UTC-5, Richard Damon wrote: > if the Windows driver broke some specification but still sort > of worked [...] ...that's when the engineers in the Redmond, WA area know it's time to package and ship the product! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/py

Re: Scanner freakishness [was Re: Python list vs google group]

2018-06-16 Thread William Ray Wing
> On Jun 16, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: > > On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:54:15 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Jim Lee wrote: > >>> I once had a Mustek color scanner that came with a TWAIN driver. If >>> the room temperature was above 80 degrees

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-16 Thread Paul St George
On 15/06/2018 17:33, T Berger wrote: On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:14:30 PM UTC-4, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 15/06/18 16:47, T Berger wrote: On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:31:47 AM UTC-4, Alister wrote: it certainly seems to be the source of most SPAM as such some users of this list/newsgroup

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 16 June 2018 12:31:28 Jim Lee wrote: > On 06/16/2018 08:36 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > > On 6/15/18 11:07 PM, Jim Lee wrote: > >>> [snip] > >>> > I once had a Mustek color scanner that came with a TWAIN driver.  > If the room temperature was above 80 degrees F, it would scan i

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-16 Thread Jim Lee
On 06/16/2018 08:36 AM, Richard Damon wrote: On 6/15/18 11:07 PM, Jim Lee wrote: [snip] I once had a Mustek color scanner that came with a TWAIN driver.  If the room temperature was above 80 degrees F, it would scan in color - otherwise, only black & white.  I was *sure* it was a hardware pro

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-16 Thread Richard Damon
On 6/15/18 11:07 PM, Jim Lee wrote: > > > On 06/15/2018 07:08 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 6/15/18 9:00 PM, Jim Lee wrote: >>> >>> On 06/15/2018 05:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Rob Gaddi wrote: > On 06/15/2018 11:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote: >>

Scanner freakishness [was Re: Python list vs google group]

2018-06-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:54:15 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Jim Lee wrote: >> I once had a Mustek color scanner that came with a TWAIN driver. If >> the room temperature was above 80 degrees F, it would scan in color - >> otherwise, only black & white. I was *

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Gregory Ewing
Jim Lee wrote: It was so long ago that I forgot some of the details, but it boiled down to the TWAIN driver pushing the SCSI bus out of spec. Clearly you didn't sacrifice enough goats! https://odetocode.com/blogs/scott/archive/2004/09/22/scsi-is-not-magic.aspx -- Greg -- https://mail.python.

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Jim Lee
On 06/15/2018 07:08 PM, Richard Damon wrote: On 6/15/18 9:00 PM, Jim Lee wrote: On 06/15/2018 05:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Rob Gaddi wrote: On 06/15/2018 11:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote: My favorite acronym of all time is TWAIN Really?  I always thought

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Michael Torrie
On 06/15/2018 09:28 AM, T Berger wrote: > I'm suspecting that posting to python google groups (this site) gets > more responses than mailing to the python list. Am I correct? Also, > contrary to what I read on the python list information sheet, what > shows up in this forum does not match what come

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Richard Damon
On 6/15/18 9:00 PM, Jim Lee wrote: > > > On 06/15/2018 05:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Rob Gaddi >> wrote: >>> On 06/15/2018 11:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote: My favorite acronym of all time is TWAIN >>> Really?  I always thought it didn't scan. >>> >> Ha

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Jim Lee wrote: > > > On 06/15/2018 05:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Rob Gaddi >> wrote: >>> >>> On 06/15/2018 11:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote: My favorite acronym of all time is TWAIN >>> Really? I always though

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Gregory Ewing
Rich Shepard wrote: Most of us do not reply if we have insufficient knowledge to offer a usable response. Saves bandwidth and electrons. Also avoids a lot of noise. Imagine if everyone who doesn't know the answer to a question posted "I don't know" as a response. It would drown out all the usef

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Jim Lee
On 06/15/2018 05:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Rob Gaddi wrote: On 06/15/2018 11:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote: My favorite acronym of all time is TWAIN Really? I always thought it didn't scan. Having spent way WAY too many hours trying to turn documents int

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Rob Gaddi wrote: > On 06/15/2018 11:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote: >> >> My favorite acronym of all time is TWAIN >> > > Really? I always thought it didn't scan. > Having spent way WAY too many hours trying to turn documents into images (and text), I very much appre

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Rob Gaddi wrote: > On 06/15/2018 11:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Rich Shepard >> wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Larry Martell wrote: >>> > Oh, ... MUA == Mail User Agent. I thought it was Made Up Ac

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Rob Gaddi
On 06/15/2018 11:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote: On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Larry Martell wrote: Oh, ... MUA == Mail User Agent. I thought it was Made Up Acronym Larry, Could be; depends on the context. My favorite acronym of all time

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Larry Martell wrote: > >>>Oh, ... MUA == Mail User Agent. >> >> I thought it was Made Up Acronym > > > Larry, > > Could be; depends on the context. My favorite acronym of all time is TWAIN -- https://mail.python.or

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Larry Martell wrote: Oh, ... MUA == Mail User Agent. I thought it was Made Up Acronym Larry, Could be; depends on the context. Rich -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:14 PM Rich Shepard wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, T Berger wrote: > > > Please define YMMV, MUA. > >Oh, ... MUA == Mail User Agent. I thought it was Made Up Acronym > > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, T Berger wrote: Please define YMMV, MUA. Oh, ... MUA == Mail User Agent. This is the client we use to read and write e-mail messages. Other mail-related abbreviations are MTA (Mail Transfer Agent, used to sort incoming messages to subject-related files), MTA (Mail Transp

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread MRAB
On 2018-06-15 17:40, T Berger wrote: Hi Rich, Please define YMMV, MUA. YMMVYour Mileage May Vary MUA Mail User Agent (email program) -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, T Berger wrote: Please define YMMV, MUA. Tamara, Your Milage May Vary. Here's a list when you have the time and inclination: . Best regards, Rich -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, C W wrote: I think someone would have at least shouted if it was too trivial or off-topic, right? Nope. Most of us do not reply if we have insufficient knowledge to offer a usable response. Saves bandwidth and electrons. When you get no replies it usually indicates no on

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:49 PM T Berger wrote: > On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:32:17 PM UTC-4, T Berger wrote: > > On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:55:59 AM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > Perhaps quantity is not the important thing here. > > > > It is the important thing. I'm stuck with a pr

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, T Berger wrote: To do this, I will have to research what you mean by "a (semi-)decent email client/news reader," and "point it at news.gmane.org." I'm a little unused to web-related lingo. Then I'll have to root around in gmane.org to see how it works. This is not to say tha

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, T Berger wrote: If anyone wants to take a stab at my problem, its subject line is "Flask Failure." Tamara, I saw that earlier this morning -- on the mail list. As I know nothing about flask I deleted it without reading. Rich -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread T Berger
On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:32:17 PM UTC-4, T Berger wrote: > On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:55:59 AM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote: > > Perhaps quantity is not the important thing here. > > It is the important thing. I'm stuck with a problem and still waiting for > replies to my email. I've dec

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread T Berger
Hi Rich, Please define YMMV, MUA. Thanks, Tamara -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread T Berger
On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:14:30 PM UTC-4, Mark Lawrence wrote: > For the third and final time, just get a (semi-)decent email client/news > reader/whatever it's called, point it at news.gmane.org and read this > forum, hundreds of other python forums and thousands of other technical > foru

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread C W
I recently posted two questions, but never got any replies. I am still wondering if it was ever posted, or maybe the question was too trivial? I think someone would have at least shouted if it was too trivial or off-topic, right? On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 15/06

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread T Berger
On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:14:30 PM UTC-4, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 15/06/18 16:47, T Berger wrote: > > On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:31:47 AM UTC-4, Alister wrote: > > > >> it certainly seems to be the source of most SPAM > >> as such some users of this list/newsgroup call it what you like

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread T Berger
On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:55:59 AM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote: > Perhaps quantity is not the important thing here. It is the important thing. I'm stuck with a problem and still waiting for replies to my email. I've decided to repost my problem here, so we'll see whether my hypothesis holds

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 15/06/18 16:47, T Berger wrote: On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:31:47 AM UTC-4, Alister wrote: it certainly seems to be the source of most SPAM as such some users of this list/newsgroup call it what you like block all posts from google groups But you don't think you get more replies to a qu

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, T Berger wrote: I'm suspecting that posting to python google groups (this site) gets more responses than mailing to the python list. Am I correct? Also, contrary to what I read on the python list information sheet, what shows up in this forum does not match what comes into m

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 1:47 AM, T Berger wrote: > On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:31:47 AM UTC-4, Alister wrote: > >> it certainly seems to be the source of most SPAM >> as such some users of this list/newsgroup call it what you like block all >> posts from google groups > > But you don't think yo

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread T Berger
On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:31:47 AM UTC-4, Alister wrote: > it certainly seems to be the source of most SPAM > as such some users of this list/newsgroup call it what you like block all > posts from google groups But you don't think you get more replies to a question posted here than emailed

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 08:28:38 -0700, T Berger wrote: > I'm suspecting that posting to python google groups (this site) gets > more responses than mailing to the python list. Am I correct? Also, > contrary to what I read on the python list information sheet, what shows > up in this forum does not ma

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 176, Issue 16

2018-05-14 Thread Paul Moore
On 14 May 2018 at 20:02, Paul wrote: > 1) I understand the added cost of verifying the sequence. However, this > appears to be a one-time cost. E.G., if I submit this, > > random.choices(lm,cum_weights=[25,26,36,46,136],k=400 > > then the code will do an O(n log n) operation 400 times. > > If ve

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 176, Issue 16

2018-05-14 Thread Paul
Hello all, Thanks for the thoughtful (and non-snarky) replies. First, a suggestion for a documentation change: To this paragraph: *If neither weights nor cum_weights are specified, selections are made with equal probability. If a weights sequence is supplied, it must be the same length as the

rot13 as I/O encoding (was Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 171, Issue 7)

2017-12-06 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 5:11 AM, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: > Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 3:56 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber >> wrote: >>> Granted, the statistics module in newer Python releases makes the >>> entire assignment trivial... >>> >>> ClgubaJva 3.5.3 (qrs

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 171, Issue 7

2017-12-06 Thread ROGER GRAYDON CHRISTMAN
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017, ssghotra1997 wrote: import random def rollDie(num): sides = {'One':0, 'Two':0,'Three':0,'Four':0,'Five':0,'Six':0} for i in range(num): rolls = int(random.randint(1, 6) if rolls == 1: sides['One'] += 1 if rolls == 2: si

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 171, Issue 7

2017-12-06 Thread Peter Otten
Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 3:56 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber > wrote: >> Granted, the statistics module in newer Python releases makes the >> entire assignment trivial... >> >> ClgubaJva 3.5.3 (qrsnhyg, Wha 26 2017, 16:17:54) [ZFP i.1900 64 ovg >> (NZQ64)] ba jva32. > > Is t

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 171, Issue 7

2017-12-06 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 3:56 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > Granted, the statistics module in newer Python releases makes the > entire assignment trivial... > > ClgubaJva 3.5.3 (qrsnhyg, Wha 26 2017, 16:17:54) [ZFP i.1900 64 ovg > (NZQ64)] ba jva32. Is this from the Function Call of Cthulu

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 171, Issue 7

2017-12-06 Thread ROGER GRAYDON CHRISTMAN
I think I also came up with 4 as "the most frequent number". It is unclear ot me how you came up with 3.36 as the most common number, because I tried rolling a six-sided die myself several times, and somehow 3.36 didn't come up even once! On Wed, Dec 6, 2017, D'Arcy Cain wrote: > On 12/05/2017 0

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 170, Issue 34

2017-11-27 Thread ROGER GRAYDON CHRISTMAN
I'll answer your question with a couple questions: Why do you expect to get the results you seem to expect? What part of your code should repeat (and why)? A key factor in recognizing the difference between 'if' and 'while' is knowing what effect they have on the indented statements that follow

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 170, Issue 34

2017-11-27 Thread ROGER GRAYDON CHRISTMAN
I'll answer your question with a couple questions: Why do you expect to get the results you seem to expect? What part of your code should repeat (and why)? A key factor in recognizing the difference between 'if' and 'while' is knowing what effect they have on the indented statements that follow

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 169, Issue 44

2017-10-29 Thread Deught Chilapondwa
Sir, You have been sending me alot of messages but hardly can I understand. Offcourse I registered with you, but I can't understand the messages reharding what I should do. Can you come back to me with clarification? Impatienly waiting to hear from you. Deught Chilapondwa. On 25 Oct 2017 6:01 pm,

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 169, Issue 23

2017-10-13 Thread Steve D'Aprano
Hi Roger, Unfortunately you seem to have messed up the quoting (*and* the subject line, and the threading) for this post. The perils of replying to digests. I'll try to repair the worst of the misquoted text as I go, but if I accidentally attribute something I said to you, well, that's only becau

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 169, Issue 23

2017-10-12 Thread ROGER GRAYDON CHRISTMAN
The opinions I give in this post are not as strong as the opinions I expressed before about the loop claiming to count all the way to 2**64. But I'll give them anyway. I don't mind having return's inside an if statement, when the function ends with that if statement. It becomes very clear then

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