e
}ge;
However, a function can be easier on the eye:
s{...}{ some_good_name( ... ) }ge;
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Please desist.
You should have spoken up sooner, especially as the spokes person of
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Steven D'Aprano writes:
> On Wed, 25 May 2011 07:01:07 -0500, John Bokma wrote:
>
>> if Python is really so much better than Python [Perl]
>> readability wise, why do I have such a hard time dropping
>> Perl and moving on?
>
> My guess is that you have an adv
Ethan Furman writes:
> Terry Reedy wrote:
>> On 5/25/2011 8:01 AM, John Bokma wrote:
>>
>>> to. Like I already stated before: if Python is really so much better
>>> than Python readability wise, why do I have such a hard time dropping
>>> Perl and moving
with.
To people used to the latin alphabet languages using a different script
are unreadable. So readability has a lot to do with what one is used
to. Like I already stated before: if Python is really so much better
than Python readability wise, why do I have such a hard time dropping
Perl and movin
Dennis Lee Bieber writes:
> Python books than after six months of trying to understand PERL... And
Perl is the language, and perl is what runs Perl.
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Chris Angelico writes:
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:16 AM, John Bokma wrote:
>> Chris Angelico writes:
>>
>>> Yes, I believe that was Perl. And an amusing quote. But most of the
>>> point of it comes from the fact that Perl uses punctuation for most of
&g
n use $OUTPUT_AUTOFLUSH (use English;), or use IO::Handle and
use the autoflush method [2].
[2] In Perl 5.14 IO::File is now loaded on demand:
http://search.cpan.org/dist/perl/pod/perldelta.pod#Filehandle_method_calls_load_IO::File_on_demand
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Chris Angelico writes:
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:56 AM, John Bokma wrote:
>> Chris Angelico writes:
>>> To me, a language is a tool.
>>
>> To me, and to a lot of Perl programmers it's not different.
>>
>>> The more tools you have competence w
"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" writes:
> On Tue, 24 May 2011 11:52:39 -0500
> John Bokma wrote:
>> >> > $d = @a;
>> >>
>> >> That will give you the number of elements in @a. What you (probably)
>> >> mean is %hash = @array;
>>
Chris Angelico writes:
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:50 AM, John Bokma wrote:
>> Wise words. And I agree. To me Python vs. Perl has nothing to do with
>> being a fanboy (unlike many other posters here). I like both languages,
>> I have invested a lot of time in learning Pytho
"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" writes:
> On Tue, 24 May 2011 00:17:55 -0500
> John Bokma wrote:
>> > $d = @a;
>>
>> That will give you the number of elements in @a. What you (probably)
>> mean is %hash = @array;
>
> If I was even considering using Pe
't actually care that much about these
> things.
Wise words. And I agree. To me Python vs. Perl has nothing to do with
being a fanboy (unlike many other posters here). I like both languages,
I have invested a lot of time in learning Python and I am really not
dense. Yet, even though I can
"Octavian Rasnita" writes:
> From: "Daniel Kluev"
> a = [1,2]
> dict([a])
>
> Yes, but
>
> d = dict([a])
>
> is not so nice as
>
> $d = @a;
That will give you the number of elements in @a. What y
e an editor that can with a single command comment out a selection
(and revert this), like Emacs.
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er that dict().
my %hash = @list_of_key_value_pairs;
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> * An even larger user base, contributing more and better free and
>commercial software.
>
> I'm prepared to compromise on the last one. Obviously, it should do all
> that while preserving all the nice features
o understand that no server is ever
secure and hence one must always be prepared that a breach can happen.
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Since you just repeated the spamvertized
URL...
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escribed by Guido van Rossum in
> http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=4829>.
Thanks Ben, very useful link.
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and 3.x
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ng
at all those shiny GUI elements when editing? I've turned off the icon
bar in Emacs (pointless) and rarely use the menu if ever.
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Bastian Ballmann writes:
> Am Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:22:19 -0500
> schrieb John Bokma :
>
>> Yeah, if you bring it down to open a file, save a file, and move the
>> cursor around, sure you can do that in a day or two (two since you
>> have to get used to the "wei
r is
going to switch to Emacs to begin with :-D.
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rusi writes:
> On Apr 17, 3:19 am, John Bokma wrote:
>> rusi writes:
>> > On Apr 16, 9:13 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> >> Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the
>> >> editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently us
times over years, and never worked. What did the
trick for me was just switching to Emacs, and read the GNU Emacs Manual
thoroughly and making notes. And the next day try what I read the day
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> It takes forever to set it up.
If you mean to make work optimally for your way of editing, probably
true. You can keep fine tuning, adding/testing stuff, etc.
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ght.
[1] which is part of the Emacs version I am using, I just learned.
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im or Emacs is that using
the mouse delays things.
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st check it out. - Emmett
What I love so much about Emacs is that each feature I've wanted so far
is either part of it, or can be installed. Sometimes I have to change
how I think about the feature a bit, but so far, so good.
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.org/software/emacs/> or Vim
> http://www.vim.org/> are excellent general-purpose editors that
> have strong features for programmers of any popular language or text
> format.
I second Emacs or vim. I currently use Emacs the most, bu
gt; 3.
But if you had any idea what you were talking about, you already knew
that.
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Chris Angelico writes:
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:57 AM, geremy condra wrote:
>> I know it's tongue-in-cheek, but please, please, please don't do this.
>
> It would be more secure to base64 it and then rot13 the output.
Rot-13 twice, to make it even more se
tall,
use the post method with the right data and the right URL.
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explain to me why this
> match is not behaving as I intend it to, especially the ([^$])?
[^$] matches: not a $ character
You might want [^\n]
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#x27;s Usenet, something I've been using for, oh, just over 20
years now, and even then it was not new. You know, before the web thing
you're talking about...
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n00m writes:
> On Mar 6, 10:17 pm, n00m wrote:
>> On Mar 6, 8:55 pm, John Bokma wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > n00m writes:
>> > >http://www.nga.gov/search/index.shtm
>> > >http://deyoung.famsf.org/search-collections
>> > &g
either its title
Title: TinEye, author: http://ideeinc.com/
Search: http://www.tineye.com/
Example:
http://www.tineye.com/search/2b3305135fa4c59311ed58b41da5d07f213e4d47/
Notice how it finds modified images.
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Blo
In general: some reviewers give bad reviews because of Amazon
shipping late, shipping a damaged book, or just because they didn't do
enough research and got the wrong book.
I also like the "Python Essential Reference" a lot.
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was accepted by the poster
> as resolving his issue. Try disabling garbage collection.
I just read http://bugs.python.org/issue4074 which discusses a patch
that has been included 2 years ago. So using a recent Python 2.x also
doesn't have this issue?
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tinauser writes:
> however, if in python i try to execute a script like:
>
> cur.execute(
> '''
> INSERT INTO 'foo' VALUES (?,?)
> '''
> ,('NULL','yyy'))
,(None
. Nevermind is
so ekhm... nevermind...
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es:
>>
>> >> >> But where is this saving the imported file and under what name?
>>
>> >> > Looks like samples.csv:
>>
>> >> >> f = open('samples.csv', 'w')
> How do change where output goes and what its c
Paul Rubin writes:
> John Bokma writes:
>> Xah Lee writes: ...
>> Can you stop crossposting?
>
> John, can you ALSO stop crossposting?
Since the issue is on-topic in all groups: no. I did set a follow-up
header, which you ignored and on top of that redirected the thin
ld speak for themselves
2) Stop abusing Usenet. Instead focus on writing more good stuff on
your site.
1) & 2) will keep me from linking to your site, ever. And I am sure I am
not alone in this.
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Seebs writes:
fup set to poster
> On 2010-09-28, John Bokma wrote:
>> Seebs writes:
>>> On 2010-09-26, J?rgen Exner wrote:
>>>> It was livibetter who without any motivation or reasoning posted Python
>>>> code in CLPM.
>
>>> Not exactly
him money. See:
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Axahlee.org%20bokma
While I am named in that article be assured that I was not the only one
contacting dreamhost (+10 for doing this, btw). Quite some people
contacted me via email that they also talked with
oogle.com/search?q=site%3Axahlee.org%20bokma
[3] What's sad is that some of its stuff is actually good/not bad.
But tainted: Xah Lee is a spammer and a Usenet abuser.
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report him with Google Groups and with his hosting
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Seebs writes:
> I dunno. I like the "next if /^$/" idiom,
I don't (as a Perl programmer), I prefer:
$line =~ /^$/ and next;
Or:
$line ne '' or next;
which I read as: line must not be empty
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eady somewhat complex (or noisy) I
probably would use a "normal" if else.
What surprises me is that this is still discussed. It's like argueing
about significant whitespace. :-)
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amond teeth :-D.
Also, the RIAA has been breaking the law as well. They do it via hired
sneeky companies, but in my book they are still responsible. (dDOS of
torrent sites/clients)
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro writes:
> In message <87aanbx5lq@castleamber.com>, John Bokma wrote:
>
>> I never saw the point of the whole X-No-Archive: Yes thing. What happens
>> if I quote such a message? It's archived, right?
>
> Where did they com
Dennis Lee Bieber writes:
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:12:01 -0500, John Bokma
> declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:
>
>
>> I never saw the point of the whole X-No-Archive: Yes thing. What happens
>> if I quote such a message? It's archived, right
to movie theaters all over the world by chaining themselves to the
entry. But, hey, then they have to get out of the couch and get out of
the house. And their moms might start to ask questions...
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ople are ashamed of telling that they have used
Google, and couldn't find it.
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googled for. If I miss and
> you've done your homework already, well, at least you get the smug
> satisfaction of knowing that I was too stupid to understand your
> question.
It makes you a patronizing fuck in my book. And no, that's not a joke.
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r more of the answers.
Yup, exactly. Or people who did a lot of searching but somehow were not
able to compile a good query.
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Tim Chase writes:
> On 09/20/10 20:12, John Bokma wrote:
>> Steven D'Aprano writes:
>>> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:25:09 +, Tim Harig wrote:
>>>> Usernet users also have the right to use the X-No-Archive header field.
>>>
>>> They do? Is th
hing. What happens
if I quote such a message? It's archived, right?
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Terry Reedy writes:
>> On 09/19/2010 10:32 PM, John Bokma wrote:
>
>>> the spoiler. Do you fast forward movies as well?
>
> I sometimes watch movies (or parts thereof) on 1.5x, especially if it
> has a lot of 'filler' scenes. But only when my wife is not
.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_total_number_of_pages_in_the_%27Harry_Potter%27_series
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_reading#Claims_of_speed_readers
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Seebs writes:
> On 2010-09-20, John Bokma wrote:
>> I didn't mean that there are spoilers in the first 70 pages, just that
>> to me the excercise would spoil the book, so, I wouldn't do it. I
>> consider a book like a meal, I wouldn't gobble down food, regu
back to them.
As an additional note: tinyurl allows one to enter a postfix to use, so
instead of /xc4ax7 you can have /something-more-readable.
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AK writes:
> On 09/19/2010 10:32 PM, John Bokma wrote:
>> AK writes:
>>
>>> On 09/19/2010 07:18 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote:
>>>> AK wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Afaik the idea is that you can read a novel at the speed of half a page
>>&g
od book, and start over again would be quite
the spoiler. Do you fast forward movies as well?
I do speed read but not the books I read for pleasure.
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Terry Reedy writes:
> On 9/1/2010 8:11 PM, John Bokma wrote:
[...]
> Right. And if 'small values of n' include all possible values, then
> rejecting a particular O(log n) algorithm as 'unacceptable' relative
> to all O(1) algorithms is pretty absurd.
I have l
e 2 db
connections? It might even be better since you can give each one its own
user and hence, privileges.
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Robert Kern writes:
> On 9/1/10 4:40 PM, John Bokma wrote:
>> Arnaud Delobelle writes:
>>
>>> Terry Reedy writes:
[...]
>>> I don't understand what you're trying to say. Aahz didn't claim that
>>> random list element access was cons
Terry Reedy writes:
> On 9/1/2010 5:40 PM, John Bokma wrote:
[..]
> Yes, I switched, because 'constant time' is a comprehensible claim
> that can be refuted and because that is how some will interpret O(1)
> (see below for proof;-).
You make it now sound alsof this
I don't understand what you're trying to say. Aahz didn't claim that
> random list element access was constant time, he said it was O(1) (and
> that it should be part of the Python spec that it is).
Uhm, O(1) /is/ constant time, see page 45 of Introduction to Algorithms,
2
ovements.
xte?
sudo apt-get install xautomation
xte 'mousemove 200 200'
see: http://linux.die.net/man/1/xte
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\x04\x04\x05\n\x07\x07\x06\x08\x0c\n\x0c\x0c\x0b\n\x0b\x0b\r\x0e\x12\x10\r\x0e\x11\x0e\x0b\x0b\x10\x16\x10\x11\x13\x14\x15\x15\x15\x0c\x0f
You're mistaken that the content is part of the headers, it's not. The
\r\n\r\n separates headers from the conten
Navkirat Singh writes:
> Hey guys,
>
> I am programming a webserver, I receive a jpeg file with the POST
> method.The file (.jpeg) is encoded in bytes, I parse the bytes by
> decoding them to a string.
Why?
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state (litteraly *hundreds* of global variables), duplication,
> dead code, and enough WTF to supply thedailywtf.com for years - to
> make a long story short, the perfect BigBallOfMudd. FWIW, the company
> didn't last long neither - they just kept on introducing ten new bugs
> each ti
forth.
> Here's the compressed version:
I did :-). I have somewhat followed Forth from a far, far distance since
the 80's (including hardware), and did read several messages in the
thread, also since it was not clear what Hugh was referring to.
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John Bokma writes:
> At an university which languages you see depend a lot on what your
> teachers use themselves. A language is just a verhicle to get you from a
> to b.
Addendum: or to illustrate a concept (e.g. functional programming, oop)
[..]
> Like you, you mean? You consi
Also note that your post is crossposted to
several other groups.
> without actually doing any programming themselves. This is why I don't
> take c.l.f. very seriously; people attack me all of the time and I
> don't really care
heh, hence all the replies you write, and men
nds more like magic than technology.
I am sure you know what Paul means. As for patting on the back: you must
make a hell of an effort to get that.
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lk, Eiffel, etc. No compiler(s) handy.
And of course questions like: what's wrong with this piece of code
and how should it be written.
3) being able to write papers and a thesis (or two)
No explanation needed, quite some people have no problem reading the
required books,
Hugh Aguilar writes:
> On Aug 22, 11:12 am, John Bokma wrote:
>
>> And my
>> experience is that a formal study in CS can't compare to home study
>> unless you're really good and have the time and drive to read formal
>> books written on CS. And my expe
David Kastrup writes:
> John Bokma writes:
>
>> On the other hand: some people I knew during my studies had no problem
>> at all with introducing countless memory leaks in small programs (and
>> turning off compiler warnings, because it gave so much noise...)
>
>
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 19:09:52 -0500, John Bokma wrote:
>
>> this means that Python should eliminate / optimize tail
>> recursion.
>
> There have been various suggestions to add tail recursion optimization to
> the language. Two problems
David Kastrup writes:
> John Bokma writes:
>
>> David Kastrup writes:
>>
>>> John Passaniti writes:
>>>
>>>> Amen! All this academic talk is useless. Who cares about things like
>>>> the big-O notation for program complexity. Can
John Nagle writes:
> On 8/20/2010 1:17 PM, John Bokma wrote:
>> John Nagle writes:
>>
>>> Python does not do tail recursion, so using recursion
>>> where iteration could do the job is generally a bad idea. Scheme, on
>>> the other hand, always d
ut their experience with
graduated people often missed the boat themselves and think that reading
a book or two equals years of study.
Oh, and rest assured, it works both ways: people who did graduate are
now and then thinking it's the holy grail an
does tail recursion:
>>> def x(n):
... if n == 10: return
... print n
... x(n + 1)
...
>>> x(1)
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
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ld. IMO it works best if you let the child discover and be
a guide, not "thou should not use Windows".
Not so remarkable that the rant moves from an extremistic teaching
environment to an extremistic world view. From hating everything that&#x
Ethan Furman writes:
> John Bokma wrote:
>> Michael Torrie writes:
>>
>>> On 08/01/2010 07:09 PM, John Bokma wrote:
>>>>> One thing that comes to mind is that it's much easier to
>>>>> distribute C libraries than C++ libraries.
Carl Banks writes:
> On Aug 3, 2:29 am, John Bokma wrote:
[..]
>> But they call both the C libraries in the same way.
>
> Go look at the original claim, the one that you responded to. "It's
> much easier to distribute C libraries than C++ libraries."
Yu
Michael Torrie writes:
> On 08/01/2010 07:09 PM, John Bokma wrote:
>>> One thing that comes to mind is that it's much easier to distribute C
>>> libraries than C++ libraries.
>>
>> In the beginning of C++ there were programs that just converted C++ to C
&g
de, Python, Ruby, ActionScript, GLSL, and
others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LLVM
Unladen Swallow is a branch of Python intended to be fully compatible
and significantly faster. It uses LLVM's optimization passes and JIT
compiler.
http://llvm.org/ProjectsWithLLVM/#unladensw
Carl Banks writes:
> On Aug 1, 6:09 pm, John Bokma wrote:
>> Roy Smith writes:
>> > In article <4c55fe82$0$9111$426a3...@news.free.fr>,
>> > candide wrote:
>>
>> >> Python is an object oriented langage (OOL). The Python main
>> >
re programs that just converted C++ to C
(frontends). At least that is how the C++ compiler Acorn sold worked.
So I don't think your argument was much true back then.
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ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_plus_plus#History
[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_%28programming_language%29#History
http://python-history.blogspot.com/2009/01/brief-timeline-of-python.html
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nt.net, so you could contact abuse at
sprint.net (see: http://whois.domaintools.com/63.170.35.94 )
[snip address etc.]
Spammers don't care about that. Best course of action, based on my
experience, is to contact abuse at googlegroups.com (now and the
tle and tags, and just look
> it up whenever you needed to.
Ages ago I wrote something like this in Perl, but now I use a local
install of MediaWiki to keep notes, interesting links, code snippets,
etc. One of the advantages is that I can reach it from each computer
connected to my LAN, even virt
't reply to
spam by qouting the entire (religious) spam message. Moron.
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he posting IP address.
Even trolls can be hurt, if enough people report them:
http://www.xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/t2/harassment.html
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t.html
(it had an effect for a while :-D )
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