to my own email
address. Should there be mail to one of them (the annual volume can be easily
counted on one hand), they just show up in my personal email.
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> On Aug 1, 2024, at 7:33 AM, Bill Cole via Postfix-users
> wrote:
>
> On 2024
As you have apparently now learned, there is a big difference between the
sendmail package and the postfix sendmail command (which exists for
compatibility reasons and is part of Postfix so no need to try to install it
independently).
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> On Jan
results in a
very quick implementation of new ideas (where else can you offer an idea and a
good reason for it and have a patch implementing it in a few hours?).
All in all, well done!
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> On Dec 14, 2023, at 5:20 AM, Wietse Venema via Postfix-us
tarlet. Many references to Starlet
remained at that time both inside files and as file names. I just checked on a
current version VMS system I can access - found 18 STARLET* filenames in the
system library directory.
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mand line, the mail enters Postfix via the pickup
service. That’s completely different from smtpd (that’s the SMTP daemon).
Command line works because having the mail enter via pickup does not use the
bad smtpd_…_restrictions parameters.
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he on-line documentation.
Anyway, thanks for the reply. All works as desired now.
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> On Jul 27, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Larry Stone wrote:
>
> I’m trying to figure out how to tell make {install | upgrade} to install
> sendmail eleswhere? I tried sendmail_path=/usr/local/sbin as well as
> -DDEF_SENDMAIL_PATH and while that changes the default value of
> sendm
as well. And I don’t need the Postfix built sendmail in
/usr/bin as I have Apple’s built-in Postfix configured to write to the same
queue files so it works fine anyway.
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you installed
it in the non-local part of /usr but you should not be able to install Postfix
there unless you turned off SIP (System Integrity Protection).
The various problems you are having suggest something very non-standard about
your configuration.
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code to risk trying to change all the code. I’ve been
away from VMS for 25 years or so but it wouldn’t surprise me if that old name
still lives on in the current version.
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made on (protocol)
> behavior and reputation, plus a static allow/deny list that is
> typically populated with information from major provider SPF records.
Unfortunately, I believe the poster’s question was a political correctness
question, not a technical question.
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%Y%m%d-%H%M%S.
And as I said, it’s technically not a bug because it works as documented but as
documented and as works is not what one would reasonably expect.
I’m running Postfix 3.5.1.
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> On May 9, 2020, at 10:31 AM, Larry Stone wr
LOG_README.html (so technically not a bug since it
works as documented but not as one would expect).
Easy fix with an override in main.cf
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imate messages.
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> On Jan 6, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Wietse Venema wrote:
>
> Larry Stone:
>> Yep. Sadly, the mail provider I use for personal email had a spam
>> check to consider dates 2020 and later to be ?from the future? and
>> rejected mail. It took a few hours for them to
s for them to fix it on 1/1, meanwhile, considerable mail was
lost. Check your various spam checking processes.
As my mail provider has told me they updated it to 2030, I now have a reminder
set on my computer for 1-Dec-2029 to remind them to update it (should I still
be using them 10 years from now).
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.
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> On Aug 6, 2019, at 2:17 PM, Peter wrote:
>
> On 7/08/19 2:02 AM, Larry Stone wrote:
>> I use MacOS Mail and for receiving, I just have “Automatically manage
>> connection settings” checked and it just works (but that’s really a Dove
lly to ask but make sure you didn’t make a typo in the server
name.
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8 albion postfix/postfix-script[71490]: refreshing the Postfix
mail system
Jan 23 14:09:28 albion postfix/master[71397]: reload -- version
3.4-20190121-nonprod, configuration /usr/local/etc/postfix
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Disregard. Reposted in the proper topic.
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> On Jan 23, 2019, at 10:35 AM, Larry Stone wrote:
>
> I noticed what appears to be a cosmetic problem: log entries from master are
> being time-stamped with the time they were last started
as 43l9l92Zkzz16xT)
Jan 23 07:30:10 albion postfix/qmgr[61559]: C81A61033C87: removed
^^^ time of first activity above
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> On Jan 22, 2019, at 6:20 AM, Wietse Venema wrote:
>
> Viktor Dukhovni:
>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 07:0
rst activity above
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> On Jan 19, 2019, at 3:10 PM, John Stoffel wrote:
>
>>>>>> "Wietse" == Wietse Venema writes:
>
> Wietse> John Stoffel:
>>>>>>>> "Wietse" == Wietse Ve
h envelope
> sender @mydomain.com unless the client has authenticated via port 465 or 587:
Not so typical IMHO. And probably unneeded to solve the OP’s problem. Once we
see what he really had in smtp_relay_restrictions, we are likely to find a
simple issue there that he can easily fix.
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utgoing only) was properly logged. Have not
tested anything yet involving log rotation. Unlike James Brown and his
Unsupported Berkeley DB version, I do not have Berkeley DB on my system (unless
a version comes with MacOS), do not use mySQL, and do not have anything from
Homebrew on the system
from system processes and monitoring
jobs), I’ll be happy to do some testing when you have it ready.
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of issues I never thought
about and as a result, my knowledge of the subject has been greatly expanded.
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> On Jan 9, 2019, at 9:48 PM, James Brown wrote:
>
>> On 10 Jan 2019, at 2:01 pm, Larry Stone wrote:
>>
>> Is this a recent build of Dovecot or was it built on an older version of
>> MacOS before the logging changes? If the former, ask on the Dovecot li
pile on old Mac and
> transfer.
Not as far as any of us know. It’s been discussed here before and no solution
has been found.
— Larry Stone
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made the four directories you mentioned the same.
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ion I and most everyone else has
of Apple Mail does not do that. I’ve sent a test message to myself with HTML
included and there was no conversion of links. And this message was sent with
Apple Mail.
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s email was sent by Apple Mail and I don’t believe you’ll see
anything weird done to it.
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plies should be interleaved with
the lines you are replying to.
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> James.
>
>> On 8 Nov 2018, at 6:57 pm, Robert Chalmers wrote:
>>
>> I have been asked how I turn on /var/log/mail.log for postfix on a Mac
>> running Mo
ay but is obviously not a long-term viable solution. Not concerned about
having the latest and greatest Postfix since it’s not externally accessible.
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d mail
through an upstream server) requires Cyrus.
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logging would be to build
your own log handler. But that’s something that is way beyond me.
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> On Nov 6, 2017, at 12:10 PM, James Reynolds wrote:
>
> Larry,
> Can you explain what you mean by the current Apple logging system? You mean
&
the latest 3.2.3. However, due to the current Apple logging
system, I build (make) Postfix on an older system running the final version of
Mavericks (10.9.5) and then copy the build directory to the target system to
run make upgrade.
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> On Oct
Postfix; it does not attempt to document SMTP
and assumes the reader has a basic understanding of SMTP. Similarly, your car’s
owner’s manual documents your car; it does not teach you how to drive and
Word’s documentation documents Word and does not teach you how to write.
-- Larry Stone
Sent from my iPad
tag, then you
need to tell us what else is handling the email before it makes it to your
mailbox.
Also, reply on list, not directly to me. Future emails sent directly to me will
be ignored.
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> On Mar 31, 2017, at 6:03 AM, Zalezny Niezale
[MASSMAIL] tag is a symptom of some other problem adding the
undesired (to you at least) tag. Fix the problem, not the symptom.
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> On Mar 31, 2017, at 5:32 AM, Zalezny Niezalezny
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> will it be possibl
lcome message will help. As it says
there:
TO REPORT A PROBLEM see http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html#mail
That includes a list of what is required.
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> On Mar 17, 2017, at 7:36 AM, paul.greene.va
> wrote:
>
> Maybe you're i
> On Feb 18, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Larry Stone wrote:
>
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Viktor Dukhovni
>> wrote:
>>
>
>> If you have a pre-Sierra MacOS/X machine, perhaps building 3.1.4 there
>> and copying the binaries will yield the same b
> On Feb 18, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Viktor Dukhovni
> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 07:37:27AM -1000, Larry Stone wrote:
>
>> Viktor, did you ever figure out the logging issue?
>
> No. Insufficient time to figure out the innards of the new Apple
> logging sub
=\"/usr/local/etc/postfix\"\
-DDEF_DAEMON_DIR=\"/usr/local/libexec/postfix\"\
-DHAS_PCRE -I/usr/local/include' \
AUXLIBS='-L/usr/local/lib -lpcre -L/usr/local/ssl/lib -lssl -lcrypto \
-L/usr/local/lib -lsasl2’
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> On Jan
configuration changes (with Postfix, I know what the configuration does and I
feel confident making changes; with the others, I have a configuration that
meets my needs but I’m not quite sure why and I don’t dare even breathe on it
out of a fear it will horribly break if I do).
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tfix works solves the future problems as well.
-- Larry Stone
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e.g.
2017-01-01 06:18:18.094145-0600 localhost backupd[13915]: (TimeMachine)
[com.apple.TimeMachine.TMLogInfo] Backup completed successfully.
-- Larry Stone
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On Tue, 3 Jan 2017, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
On Jan 3, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Robert Chalmers wrote:
Do you
ts it. But the latter example would also apply to voice communications
in the amateur bands so since you can't be sure that even voice is unencrypted,
I guess they aren't legal either.
-- Larry Stone
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ss than queue_run_delay so that the next queue
run occurs soon after the backoff_time expires. Note also that the time between
runs increases until it reaches maximal_backoff_time. Read the documentation
Noel referenced above.
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restart as normal with SIP disabled,
This is a permanent setting so once done would never need to be done again. But
if you want to toggle it on and off as needed, to turn it on, just say “csrutil
enable” instead.
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smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
ation, aliases are created
(automatically by Mailman) to pipe the Mailman addresses to the proper Mailman
program. Postfix transports are not involved (however, there are a lot of
non-standard Mailman distributions out there). It appears the OP is doing
something non-standard.
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en I reached a point where I wanted to integrate
other things like Amavis, DKIM signing, and other filters, it was time to move
away from what his product set up.
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smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
), I
suspect mixing the two is not a good idea.
-- Larry Stone
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rred) or port 25 (if permitted)
on the server MTA.
Use of port 465 was deliberately not included in the above as it does not
seem to be part of the OPs issue.
-- Larry Stone
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CONFIG_DIR=\"/usr/local/etc/postfix\"\
-DDEF_DAEMON_DIR=\"/usr/local/libexec/postfix\"\
-DHAS_PCRE -I/usr/local/include' \
AUXLIBS='-L/usr/local/lib -lpcre -lssl -lcrypto’
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smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
n the non-standard behavior. Do
it right and then you won’t have to work around the problem again when the next
change is made.
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smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
On Oct 20, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Viktor Dukhovni
wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:01:51AM -0500, Larry Stone wrote:
>
>>> You should no longer need to specify "-lresolv" (though it won't
>>> fix this problem), and should never have needed to specify &
-DHAS_PCRE -I/usr/local/include' \
AUXLIBS='-L/usr/local/lib -lpcre -lssl -lcrypto’
with or without the -arch x86_64. This is almost the same as what James Brown
used except no -lresolv and I don’t use MySQL so all of that is removed. I’ve
only done the build (not installed yet) but that is the same command I used for
building my currently running 2.11.1.
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smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
backscatter problem is a symptom of the bigger problem of your users
abusing your server. Fix the real problem, not the symptom.
-- Larry Stone
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t and then bounce” behavior you seem to have,
you have changed something. But since you have provided no information on your
configuration, anything further is merely guessing.
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smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
s), not your main.cf. Logs of a received message are helpful as
well.
However, as I stated earlier, this is probably not a Postfix issues.
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smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
ren’t are not configured properly.
As for why the mail is not ending up is /var/mail/john, clearly Postfix or
whatever Mail Delivery Agent you’re using is not configured to deliver it there.
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Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
libpcreposix.0.dylib
AFAIK, that came from Apple as anything I install myself goes in /usr/local.
It’s also on all three Macs in our household (all have Apple Developer tools
installed but only two have my local install of PCRE in /usr/local on them).
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smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
tting email which is the role of an IMAP or POP
server such as Dovecot, not Postfix. Besides that, mynetworks defines
trusted IP addresses, not domains.
-- Larry Stone
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On May 11, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 08:57:29PM -0500, Larry Stone wrote:
>
>>> The above syntax is incorrect. Try
>>>
>>> ... CCARGS='
>>> -DUSE_TLS -I/usr/local/ssl/include
>>> -DUS
On May 11, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 06:00:38PM -0500, Larry Stone wrote:
>
>> On the test system, trying to force the new version of OpenSSL (1.0.1g), I
>> used:
>> make -f Makefile.init makefiles \
>> CCARGS=&#x
[10807]: warning: run-time
library vs. compile-time header version mismatch: OpenSSL 1.0.1 may not be
compatible with OpenSSL 0.9.8
It all seems to work but obviously pieces of both are getting into the build
and as I said, understanding all the nuances of makefiles is beyond me. Also,
this
t;.
Mailman 2.1.18 (released just this past weekend) has workarounds for the
From and Reply-To piece of this. And despite your claim that you told
Mailman to send to port 587 instead (no proof provided), you must not have
done what you thought you did. But the Mailman list is the place f
define what hosts RECEIVE mail
for a domain. They say nothing about what hosts should be SENDING mail for
a domain. Many large ISPs use separate systems for receiving and sending
mail. What you want to do will reject large quantities of legitimate mail.
-- Larry Stone
lston
reply.
-- Larry Stone
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efore getting to the
last three delay components, it's obviously bogus).
As Wietse said, you've wasted our time. And if you don't know who Wietse
is, I suggest you do a search on his name before posting here again.
-- Larry Stone
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ovided.
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smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
ostconf -n
>
> mydestination =
>
mydestination defines what domains are to be delivered locally. You set it
blank so you’re saying no domains are delivered locally.
> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 [:::127.0.0.0]/104 [::1]/128
You’ve set this to make only localhost to be considered a
tions (like mine). In many cases, the DSL provider will change
the reverse DNS but not always. It’s the dynamic address hostnames you want to
block.
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Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
received when you subscribed to this list,
TO REPORT A PROBLEM see http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html#mail
We're not mindreaders and if you do not provide the information requested, we
can't tell you what you did wrong.
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smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
n. However, don't just do what we suggest; make
sure you understand it and that it is doing what YOU want.
-- Larry Stone
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587 only. IIRC, that is not the default.
>>
>> -- Larry Stone
>>Sent from my iPhone
> OK, so perhaps just refusing AUTH on port 25 will solve the problem. I've
> set the Server Port in Outgoing mail settings on iPhone to 587, so I don't
> really unders
plicitly set to?
Works fine for me. I very much doubt your iPhone in question is actually set to
use 587 only. IIRC, that is not the default.
-- Larry Stone
Sent from my iPhone
l_auth"
> 451 4.3.5 Server configuration error
permit_sasl_auth <> permit_sasl_authenticated
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Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
er than as
a decimal point.
No doubt no matter what you do, some people will get confused. So stick with
what we have which fits with much other software.
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Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
way
to route external mail to it. I do have a second IP address I can use so the
final test will be to make a good backup, switch the router to the alternate IP
address (thereby stopping legitimate outside mail from getting in), install in
production, test, and if all seems OK, switch back to the regular IP address.
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On Apr 30, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 30.04.2013 21:20, schrieb Larry Stone:
>> FWIW, I consider Lion (10.7) to be the last version of OS X for which the
>> Apple provided Postfix is usable. For
>> Mountain Lion (10.8), they changed a lot of the default
see about upgrading to Mountain Lion.
Otherwise, "make install".
Thanks. I had a feeling that was the answer.
-- Larry Stone
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t;make upgrade" will work when the upgrade is in a
different location than the previous version.
-- Larry Stone
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gh less technical) who have
heard of Linux since it's been a "cool" buzz-word but have no idea what Unix is.
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e-id=
Mar 14 10:27:41 mail postfix/qmgr[2179]: 4B9A3E1C0A:
from=, size=7049, nrcpt=3 (queue active)
And comes back from a content filter with 3 recipients.
Seeing your master.cf might help too. But it's most likely the content
filter listening to port 10026.
-- Larry Stone
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save every message and would not have
your initial statement of the problem.
-- Larry Stone
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. If true, that is very wrong behavior on the part of site3.
Your example says "m...@site3.com" so I assume you are the site3 recipient. Are
you running some sort of script on the received message that might be doing
this? Do you control the site3 SMTP server or are you just a user t
IMAP
with no conversion or client reconfiguration (other than SquirrelMail)
required.
-- Larry Stone
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PORT A PROBLEM see http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html#mail";. Had you
read that, you would found that we need postconf -n output as well as relevant
non-verbose logging. It's probably a simple configuration issue. Reinstalling
software rather than correcting the conf
Apple's provided Postfix) with
everything in /usr/local (which Apple so far does not touch) so that I am
not at the whim of their changes.
-- Larry Stone
lston...@stonejongleux.com
post
postconf -n output, not main.cf contents (in other words, the
configuration postfix is actually using, not the one you think it is
using).
-- Larry Stone
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to us. The
language you are using is a bit awkward. What do you mean by "turn off the
email distributions" if it doesn't mean "unsubscribe".
As for the second question, receiving your own post back does an adequate job
of acknowledging the post. Unless, of course, you mean something different when
you say "post acknowledgements".
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.
Information about the list including a subscription sign-up form can be
found at <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users/>
There are lots of Mailman users there who have it integrated with Postfix
so you should be able to get your questions answered there.
-- Larry Stone
e the non-word "listserv". Listserv is a registered trademark for a
competing mailing list server and is not a generic term for any mailing list
server.
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in their hands, you can't tell them what to do with them.
-- Larry Stone
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tally break the
definition of BCC.
(perhaps part of the problem is younger folk, rarely if ever exposed to
traditional office paper communications, are not familiar with why the
term is "carbon copy", when "blind carbon copies" were used, and perhaps
have never even seen carb
tocol to talk to an SMTP server.
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auth_destination so the OP
should probably just remove check_relay_domains from his configuration.
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riction that was in the way of
what they were trying to do. To the extent it makes you actually
understand SMTP and Postfix better, it's probably good not to be too
specific.
-- Larry Stone
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7;t, that would
certainly explain a "relay access denied" reject when attempting to send
from outside your network to outside your network. Note that
permit_sasl_authenticated must be ahead of reject_unauth_destination.
-- Larry Stone
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