Hi guys
I wanted to let you know that each time you buy a pharo book the small
benefit is given to the association.
Stef
I constantly get an error « module not found » in FFI using the latest 3.0 VM
from yesterday.
Yet my link does exist, and I have used that a lot of time before.
Annick
Oh it’s possible the dependent libraries have problems
Le 19 sept. 2014 à 10:40, Annick Fron a écrit :
> I constantly get an error « module not found » in FFI using the latest 3.0 VM
> from yesterday.
>
> Yet my link does exist, and I have used that a lot of time before.
>
> Annick
hello all,
i had to do it.
after listening to everybody's comments about my questions to the list,
i went out and checked on the current state of squeak and self.
looks like squeak and self definitely need a lot of attention from
experienced developers and visionaries.
since i don't fall sq
welcome back !
On 19 Sep 2014, at 14:07, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> hello all,
>
> i had to do it.
> after listening to everybody's comments about my questions to the list, i
> went out and checked on the current state of squeak and self.
>
> looks like squeak and self definitely need a lot of a
it all comes down to what you want. You are not obliged to even use
Smalltalk in the first place, what matter is what you want to do ? What
project you have in mind ? what are your goals ? how you want to achieve
them ? etc
Pharo comes with its own set of problems and flaws like any other language
Welcome back!
You convinced me to have a look at Self, which I didn't in, what, more than
15 years? They even have multiple host windows :)
Thierry
2014-09-19 14:07 GMT+02:00 Mayuresh Kathe :
> hello all,
>
> i had to do it.
> after listening to everybody's comments about my questions to the li
Welcome back!
Doru
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> hello all,
>
> i had to do it.
> after listening to everybody's comments about my questions to the list, i
> went out and checked on the current state of squeak and self.
>
> looks like squeak and self definitely need a
what i've wanted is a pure-objects system.
somehow, none of the options (python, ruby, obj-c) come close to
fulfilling my requirements the way smalltalk does.
i do have certain ideas i wish to explore which require an object system
to as deep a level as possible with a certain liveness to it (
thanks for the warm welcome. :)
the self vm while interesting, isn't as portable as "squeak" and it's
derived systems.
~mayuresh
On 2014-09-19 18:06, Thierry Goubier wrote:
Welcome back!
You convinced me to have a look at Self, which I didn't in, what, more
than 15 years? They even have mu
On 19 Sep 2014, at 15:59, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> heraclitus actually said, "everything _flows_" (panta rhei).
No he said: Πάντα ῥεῖ ;-)
On 2014-09-19 19:34, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
On 19 Sep 2014, at 15:59, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
heraclitus actually said, "everything _flows_" (panta rhei).
No he said: Πάντα ῥεῖ ;-)
true... :-D
How do you capture a selfie?
Alexandre
On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:01 PM, off...@riseup.net wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm taking somescreenshots of Pharo using the functionality provided by Pharo
> itself to make this. It seems that screenshot is properly saved, but there is
> no indication about where is
I believe "Pharo by Example" is the primary book to start-off with
Pharo.
A look at the Lulu.com page shows it to be from early 2010.
Would it still be usable with the present version of Pharo?
Thanks,
~Mayuresh
World Menu > Tools > Screenshot
On 19 Sep 2014, at 01:46, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
> How do you capture a selfie?
>
> Alexandre
>
>
> On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:01 PM, off...@riseup.net wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm taking somescreenshots of Pharo using the functionality provided by
>> Pharo itself
I have ported the first 5 chapters to Pharo 3 -->
https://www.gitbook.io/book/kilon/pbe
the old PBE is outdated by still highly useful.
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> I believe "Pharo by Example" is the primary book to start-off with Pharo.
> A look at the Lulu.com p
Offray wrote:
>> I'm taking somescreenshots of Pharo using the functionality provided by
>> Pharo itself to make this. It seems that >screenshot is properly saved, but
>> there is no indication about where is stored. Could someone point me the
>> place?
Yes this is confusing. I opened an issue
Thanks for that link.
Just curious; in what way would the old PBE still be useful for someone
very new to Pharo?
~Mayuresh
On 2014-09-19 20:32, kilon alios wrote:
I have ported the first 5 chapters to Pharo 3
--> https://www.gitbook.io/book/kilon/pbe [1]
the old PBE is outdated by still hi
2014-09-19 12:10 GMT-03:00 Mayuresh Kathe :
> Thanks for that link.
>
> Just curious; in what way would the old PBE still be useful for someone very
> new to Pharo?
It will help you understand the general concepts and tools.
Pharo 3 and 4 did change lots of things, but most of them are related
wi
As a side note, open the file browser from the world menu, it should open
on that very folder.
Or FileList open. in a Workspace.
Then when you pick a png there (PharoScreenshot.png for example ^_^) you
can right click and say "Open Graphic in a Window".
Phil
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:07 PM
Hello,
While I am still waiting for my copy of the PBE, I would like to
initiate work on a project (along with friends).
The idea is to build a minimalist Linux based system which would boot up
straight into a full-screen Pharo environment.
The system itself would be single user, consisting of n
Because there is a lot of content of value which isn't in the GitHub
project yet.
As I do have a ton of old Smalltalk books (hardcopy, Amazon is your friend)
and a hardcopy of all Pharo books (including Pharo for the Enterprise,
which is not out yet), I can tell you that, except on the "windows an
Yes, it goes. I regularly give it to my student as an introduction to Pharo.
Cheers,
Alexandre
On Sep 19, 2014, at 8:10 AM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> Thanks for that link.
>
> Just curious; in what way would the old PBE still be useful for someone very
> new to Pharo?
>
> ~Mayuresh
>
>
> On
Just wondering: what are your initial requirements that make you define this
project?
Cheers,
Alexandre
On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> Hello,
>
> While I am still waiting for my copy of the PBE, I would like to
> initiate work on a project (along with friends).
>
> The
My ultimate goal (has been for a long time) is to build a low cost,
computing system which can be as deeply programmable as possible.
At the moment, my goal is to not only learn and start contributing back
to Pharo, but also make progress in making it as reachable and
accessible to learners as pos
Sure is.
You want to use OSProcess.
Load OSProcess from the configuration browser.
You can get environment variables like this:
dirString:= OSProcess thisOSProcess environment at: #PRJ_DIR.
Check this thread:
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.pharo.user/12496
Example:
comma
It's been close to 6 hours that I've been playing with the defaults
offered with Pharo 3.
Everything works so much more smoothly than Squeak! It also feels great.
What's kind of problematic (as I see it) is the "look".
There are 3 themes that I got with the default image;
Pharo 3, Vistary and W
Not that I know.
On 17/9/14 22:58, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
I saw http://www.slideshare.net/esug/memoization-aspects
Do we have a memoization package based on that work?
Phil
Once I tested it, not sure was Squeak or Pharo, running under the
Console FrameBuffer.
So your basic workstation can just be a Console only Linux (no X window).
Hilaire
Le 19/09/2014 18:18, Mayuresh Kathe a écrit :
Hello,
While I am still waiting for my copy of the PBE, I would like to
initia
Eeewww ugly Java GUI you got there
First of all get Pharo 4 and select Dark theme, its really great.
Second, now that I am close to finishing Ephestos 0.1 release I am
preparing for working on 0.2 . In that release I will introduce Morpheas
which will be a theme manager but somewhate diffirent to
Hello,
I'm revisiting some old code that I started to sort my favorites on my
tv settop box. I noticed that ServerDirectory is gone. I naively
replaced ServerDirectory by FTPClient, but I get an error that the iv
stream is nil.
So I looked at the comment of FTPClient - which recommends me to look
Try the DawnTheme.
https://github.com/sebastianconcept/Pharo3DawnTheme
I've got my own little tweaks of it here:
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~philippeback/HOExtras/packages/Pharo3DawnTheme
Looks like Sublime. It is based on the Dark Theme.
Phil
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Mayuresh Ka
>The idea is to build a minimalist Linux based system which would boot up
>straight into a full-screen Pharo environment.
Why use a Linux underneath when you can do it in Smalltalk ;)
Look at SqueakNOS - an operating system that was/still is able to
boot from disk right into Squeak:
http://wiki.
Yes, it must have been Squeak, it's VM is capable of displaying to the
Linux framebuffer.
I had run tests on it around 2002~3, looked good, but crashed often.
~Mayuresh
On 2014-09-20 00:31, Hilaire wrote:
Once I tested it, not sure was Squeak or Pharo, running under the
Console FrameBuffer.
>If there could be some way to have that look and feel, while adhering to
>the Java LaF Guidelines for the same, we might have a Pharo system which
>would be not only neater looking, but also lighter weight (by virtue of
>fewer extravagant graphical properties).
No one wants to look like Swing.
Yes, that's something I would have loved to have, a single language to
program everything, right from the drivers to user interface and
applications.
SqueakNOS looks very interesting, but still is way behind a combination
of Linux kernel + X + Pharo in terms of hardware support and maturity.
On 2014-09-20 01:05, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
If there could be some way to have that look and feel, while adhering
to
the Java LaF Guidelines for the same, we might have a Pharo system
which
would be not only neater looking, but also lighter weight (by virtue
of
fewer extravagant graphical pro
I seriously doubt that SqueakNOS uses smalltalk to program the drivers
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> Yes, that's something I would have loved to have, a single language to
> program everything, right from the drivers to user interface and
> applications.
>
> SqueakNO
Nice theme!
I am referring to a more deeper treatment than the theme/skin approach.
I would prefer to give more thought to every element, it's existence in
a particular manner, fonts and their weights, etc.
~Mayuresh
On 2014-09-20 00:40, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
Try the DawnTheme.
https:
Would the Ubuntu Font License at; http://font.ubuntu.com/licence/ be
considered compatible with the Pharo license?
If it is not _compatible_ would the usage of Ubuntu fonts still be
acceptable/permissible within Pharo?
Thanks,
~Mayuresh
Hi all,
I do not remember all the details but most of SqueakNOS has been written in
Smalltalk!
even some drivers ;-)
http://squeaknos.blogspot.ch/
Cheers,
#Luc
2014-09-19 21:41 GMT+02:00 kilon alios :
> I seriously doubt that SqueakNOS uses smalltalk to program the drivers
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 1
Le 19/09/2014 21:41, kilon alios a écrit :
I seriously doubt that SqueakNOS uses smalltalk to program the drivers
it does/did.
--
Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu
iStoa - http://istao.drgeo.eu
via Slang ?
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Hilaire wrote:
> Le 19/09/2014 21:41, kilon alios a écrit :
>
>> I seriously doubt that SqueakNOS uses smalltalk to program the drivers
>>
>>
> it does/did.
>
> --
> Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu
> iStoa - http://istao.drgeo.eu
>
>
>
On 19 Sep 2014, at 22:23, kilon alios wrote:
> via Slang ?
nope.
no compilations.
pure smalltalk.
after all… a compiler just translates some code into binary code…. if you can
do that directly… why would you need a compiler?
>
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Hilaire wrote:
> Le 19/
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:41 PM, kilon alios wrote:
> I seriously doubt that SqueakNOS uses smalltalk to program the drivers
>
Actually, it does. The thing is that most drivers can be written in
Smalltalk and glued with very very little assembly. 3 years ago, during our
MSc thesis we added drive
Hi,
I have a tree object structure, in a project and I'm wondering if there
is a code or method that I can use to make a preorder tree traversal on
it. I have seen the one that is the book Inside Smalltalk Vol 1, but I
don't know if there is something in the image or elsewhere that can be
use
Thanks Phil and Torsten for your detailed answer and taking care of
filling out the bug. I will follow your advice.
Cheers,
Offray
On 09/19/2014 11:07 AM, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
As a side note, open the file browser from the world menu, it should open on
that very folder.
Or FileList
I am impressed
:)
So much potential here , lovely.
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 12:21 AM, Javier Pimás
wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:41 PM, kilon alios
> wrote:
>
>> I seriously doubt that SqueakNOS uses smalltalk to program the drivers
>>
>
> Actually, it does. The thing is that most
Check the FileSystem guides: Preorder is in there.
Look at GuideTest and PreorderGuideTest for a starting point.
Phil
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:05:51PM +0200, Annick Fron wrote:
> Is it possible to call pharo from C ?
FFI - Not sure
Alien - Not sure
NativeBoost - Yes
Simple example here:
http://www.samadhiweb.com/blog/2014.08.02.c.callback.smalltalk.html
Pierce
> FFI - Not sure
> Alien - Not sure
> NativeBoost - Yes
One thing is receiving a callback from C. In this case, NativeBoost is the
one with the worst end-user API.
Another thing, is being able to embed the VM in a C application, and then
call the VM explicitly from the application. In this case,
try the TCL + Pharo stuff. It is simple and easy to hook up.
Tiny Core gets it down to around 20 MB for a bare bone linux + Pharo can
be similar to Android if one goes down the path.
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> Hello,
>
> While I am still waiting for my copy of the
I have built Linux systems which fit in 8MB of disk space (along with
the GUI). Google around for "NevyOS".
Building a tiny Linux system isn't what worries me, it's the probable
high resource consumption of Pharo which is scary.
Would Pharo be able to run in the limited compute resources offe
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