what i've wanted is a pure-objects system.
somehow, none of the options (python, ruby, obj-c) come close to
fulfilling my requirements the way smalltalk does.
i do have certain ideas i wish to explore which require an object system
to as deep a level as possible with a certain liveness to it (hence my
investigation of "self").
yes, i agree, pharo is indeed built on the shoulder of giants. :)
heraclitus actually said, "everything _flows_" (panta rhei).
~mayuresh
On 2014-09-19 17:56, kilon alios wrote:
it all comes down to what you want. You are not obliged to even use
Smalltalk in the first place, what matter is what you want to do ?
What project you have in mind ? what are your goals ? how you want to
achieve them ? etc
Pharo comes with its own set of problems and flaws like any other
language out there, by trying it out you will find yourself if it can
fit your needs.
In any case welcome back, Pharoers have worked hard to push smalltalk
forward and they are very active and helpful. On other hand Pharo
would not even exist if Squeak did not exist so you could say "Pharo
is built on shoulder of giants" ;)
For me Pharo has a long way to go before I call it "polished" but no
doubt its getting there and is a fascinating project.
As Heraclitus said "Everything moves"
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Mayuresh Kathe <mayur...@kathe.in>
wrote:
hello all,
i had to do it.
after listening to everybody's comments about my questions to the
list, i went out and checked on the current state of squeak and
self.
looks like squeak and self definitely need a lot of attention from
experienced developers and visionaries.
since i don't fall squarely in either category, it would be best to
work with pharo.
also, as someone had mentioned, almost all smalltalk systems have
diverged too much from the st-80 specification, so why not go for
pharo which is so highly polished already and is being constantly
improved!
so here i am, back in pharo land.
~mayuresh
