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hide the bad spaghetti and the >>> need to support every passing fad has made it nearly unusable. I’ve >>> seen a number of companies specifying Java 7 or even Java 6 in their >>> tech stacks “because Java 8 is too unreliable”. >>> >>>   >>> >>&

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seen a number of companies specifying Java 7 or even Java 6 in their >> tech stacks “because Java 8 is too unreliable”. >> >>   >> >> Until mainstream “software engineers” start /acting/ like engineers, >> i.e. people who make things /work/, rather than popul

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ants > or fashion victims, that won’t change. > >   > > Andrew Glynn > >   > > *From: *Richard A. O'Keefe <mailto:o...@cs.otago.ac.nz> > *Sent: *Sunday, November 19, 2017 6:19 PM > *To: *Pharo-users@lists.pharo.org <mailto:Pharo-users@lists.p

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Richard, I don't mean to be harsh, but I'm amused that you think that everyone misunderstand you, and you have nothing to learn from the community that is using and developing the technologies you're promoting. As said in my previous email about this thread, what is the point of having a communit

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. O'Keefe Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 6:19 PM To: Pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort I'm obviously missing a lot of the context here, but in my country (New Zealand) there is something called the Fair Trading Act. My understanding fr

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Fortunately, I'm not selling a product, good or service. I'm selling an idea. The idea that you should use Pharo for software development. This isn't about commerce or trade, and thus there can be no basis for litigation. I'm rather amused that everyone has missed the fundamental point, which I ma

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I'm obviously missing a lot of the context here, but in my country (New Zealand) there is something called the Fair Trading Act. My understanding from reading the Commerce Commission web site is that - false or misleading representations about goods or services or the availability of goods a

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e Software Industry Turns its Issues > into Subscriptions > >   > > Read more… > >   > > 12 > >   > > Go to the profile of Andrew Glynn > > Andrew Glynn > > Oct 19 > > A Commentary On Three Quotes From “Working on the Go Team at Google” >

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> Apple certainly does not do what you. Really??? I don't know what kind of ads Apple runs in Europe, but in North America, it's very obvious when Apple exaggerates or bends the truth. Remember those popular "I'm a PC, I'm a Mac" ads from a few years ago? They had all kinds of exaggerations and ha

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Hi, Richard I think that there is possibility to create a more constructive conversation while promoting Pharo. Ben Coman has give his balanced view pairing constructive criticism with advice, Sven and Andrew have given some post examples, written by them, that help to give better coverage to Smal

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Yes, I've even cited your excellent "Elegant Pharo Code" article on several occasions. Okay, perhaps I'm wrong about the number of pageviews. Nevertheless, prior to my campaign, hardly anyone talked about Smalltalk. That was my essential point. By the way, I am gratified that at Medium, I have ne

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> On 18 Nov 2017, at 18:19, horrido wrote: > > Can anyone show me one technical article in the past 20 years that has > garnered more than 10,000 pageviews? I've published eight such articles in > the past 3 years! Views or reads ? Popularity is not necessarily an indication of quality, but y

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> out of my undergrad degree at UW… > Read more… > > 1 response > Go to the profile of Andrew Glynn > Andrew Glynn > Oct 11 > Building-With Versus Building-On: > Improving Software Development Incrementally > Three articles and a doctoral thesis that I came across or had point

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I’m starting to get really annoyed with all the naysayers within our own community that seem to pick apart every dot and tittle of any article this man produces. It seems as though people don’t really care whether the Smalltalk community grows or dies. I view pretty much any news as goods news a

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relate, and by putting them… From: Dimitris Chloupis Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:10 AM To: Any question about pharo is welcome Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort First of all, you need to understand that this article, like nearly all of my other articles, is about

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort First of all, you need to understand that this article, like nearly all of my other articles, is about /marketing/. I've never made any bones about this. If you know anything about marketing, you know that it involves exaggeration and hyperbol

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It is, according to various citations (CiteSeer) etc., being used to fight measles. Maybe not as flashy, but at least it’s true. Andrew Glynn From: Dimitris Chloupis Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:10 AM To: Any question about pharo is welcome Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article

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"There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." Oscar Wilde Smalltalk was on the verge of being forgotten. Now, people talk about it. Some may be turned off, I have no doubt. Some are curious; some are intrigued, enough to actually try Pharo (Sm

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> > > First of all, you need to understand that this article, like nearly all of > my other articles, is about /marketing/. I've never made any bones about > this. > > If you know anything about marketing, you know that it involves > exaggeration > and hyperbole. It sometimes involves bending the t

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Yes, people are emotional entities and good marketing should work with that, but it needs to be done carefully. I'll give you three examples: 1) Imagine you are an Apple user who bought a very expensive iPhone X one week ago, you spent next hundreds of dollars on applications you bought over last

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. November 2017 07:13 An: Any question about pharo is welcome Betreff: Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort I'm not going to ask you to stop writing.  I think its difficult to get the balance right,  and I think you are improving every time. But there are some points to consider..

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I'm not going to ask you to stop writing. I think its difficult to get the balance right, and I think you are improving every time. But there are some points to consider... On 18 November 2017 at 11:55, horrido wrote: > I appreciate all the feedback, even the negative comments. Let me address >

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

I appreciate all the feedback, even the negative comments. Let me address some of them... First of all, you need to understand that this article, like nearly all of my other articles, is about /marketing/. I've never made any bones about this. If you know anything about marketing, you know that i

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I just skimmed at it and found that piece Back to the Future Everybody has heard of Smalltalk. This venerable programming language has had a long and illustrious history . It was the first programming languag

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I liked it. Actually I thought it was Richard's most balanced piece to date - except the poke in the cl paragraph. Something softer like "Pharo might not be right for you, but its worth taking a look at" would be better. And for spreading the word, perhaps controversy is better than being ignore

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And can you remove this sentence: ​​ Pharo is being used to fight Ebola : http://ummisco.github.io/kendrick/ ​You cite my research work about KENDRICK, a domain-specific language built in order to analyze epidemiological models. Thank you for the link, but we never fight Ebola ... We only partici

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Please, please, please, stop to write such kind of articles. You are doing a really bad service to us. You can help to Pharo in many other ways. You will not convince people to use Pharo by spitting on everything else. One fixed typo has incomparably bigger value than blogpost like this. -- Pavel