Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

> On 14 May 2017, at 15:40, horrido wrote: > > Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote >> I think a stylised balloon is not bad, it just has to be less complex, >> more logo like, more abstract. > > I've taken your comment to heart and I believe I've come up with the ideal > logo: > >

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote > I think a stylised balloon is not bad, it just has to be less complex, > more logo like, more abstract. I've taken your comment to heart and I believe I've come up with the ideal logo: Beautifully ab

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

Tudor Girba-2 wrote > I find it fascinating how the discussion about Smalltalk dialects happen > in a Pharo mailing list :). It's no mystery. Pharo has the biggest and most active Smalltalk user community, so you can't beat it for community outreach. Also, Pharo seems to be closely allied with ESU

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

So no one thinks this is a good idea? Unless some people give me the green light, I shan't proceed. horrido wrote > Maybe the best way to settle this is to have a Smalltalk logo competition. > People can submit their logo designs and a panel of judges can decide on > the best one. The winning en

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

Hi, I find it fascinating how the discussion about Smalltalk dialects happen in a Pharo mailing list :). One thing should be clear though: Pharo has a distinct identity depicted by a clear logo. This will not change. Cheers, Tudor > On May 3, 2017, at 9:13 PM, horrido wrote: > > I expect i

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

I expect it to be used in exactly the same way other languages like Clojure, Elixir, Kotlin, and Julia use theirs. Of course, whether these logos are widely used has more to do with the languages' promotional efforts. As for the commercial entities, they may choose to use it or not. This depends o

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

I prefer your first attempt (just centre the [|] against the square). Your first design instinct was correct. I prefer [|] having the same height. I like the blue colour but you may experiment with different colours. philippeback wrote > SVG file. Works in Inkscape. > > I wanted the [ | ] to

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

I have to say, I really like it! Is this Logo Candidate Entry #2 ? philippeback wrote > I got a shot at this and this gives the following. > > What we should do: > > - ensure the [|] shape has the gold ratio (so it is naturally attractive). > - make sure the square is positioned so that the go

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

SVG file. Works in Inkscape. I wanted the [ | ] to be a golden rectangle. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio 1.618 something (1 + 5 sqrt) / 2 Look at how the reciprocal of the golden ratio looks like [|] We should have GoldenRatio in Float class. initialize "Float initialize" "Con

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 6:49 PM, horrido wrote: > Esteban A. Maringolo wrote > > A decade+ ago I created the one attached, and I've seen used in some > > Smalltalk related sites. I still like it but it can be done better. > > *[|]* seems to be a popular choice. I got two votes for this at LinkedIn

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

Hi Phil, I don't like the diamond in the back, nor the colors (looks old). Also the square brackets and vertical bar are not horizontally centered. I still like the concept though. I couldn't see the golden ratio. Can you overlay it? Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2017-05-03 9:38 GMT-03:00 p...

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

I got a shot at this and this gives the following. What we should do: - ensure the [|] shape has the gold ratio (so it is naturally attractive). - make sure the square is positioned so that the golden ratio is also all over the place. Color wise, I went for blue because Smalltalk has a natural e

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

Esteban A. Maringolo wrote > A decade+ ago I created the one attached, and I've seen used in some > Smalltalk related sites. I still like it but it can be done better. *[|]* seems to be a popular choice. I got two votes for this at LinkedIn. It looks rather plain to me, though. It lacks sizzle.

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

Le 02/05/2017 à 12:57, horrido a écrit : > I have A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk > > . But there is one huge (insurmountable?) obstacle. > Hi, I like it but I find it too complex for a logo. I think it would be better t

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

;-) Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2 wrote > Ha, ha, > > Good one :-)... Smalltalk and Lisp families are kind of alien for this > world :-), > > Offray > > > On 02/05/17 09:35, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: >> >> 2017-05-02 11:22 GM

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

Ha, ha, Good one :-)... Smalltalk and Lisp families are kind of alien for this world :-), Offray On 02/05/17 09:35, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: 2017-05-02 11:22 GMT-03:00 Esteban A. Maringolo >: I prefer the rounded one more and it follows a better criter

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

I really like the minimalist nature of the "[ | ]" logo for Smalltalk, kind of similar to the lambdas (λ) from Lisp families and is cross-dialect and, as Esteban says, unique. Cheers, Offray On 02/05/17 09:01, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: A decade+ ago I created the one attached, and I've se

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

2017-05-02 11:33 GMT-03:00 horrido : > the lighthouse has come to be closely associated with Pharo. Then it succeeded as an logo. I'd only change its typography. But the logo stays. I'd keep the O the same size as the rest of the letters. Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

> On 2 May 2017, at 16:33, horrido wrote: > > Yes, but can the lighthouse logo be used to represent all Smalltalks? I don't > think so. I like it very much, but the lighthouse has come to be closely > associated with Pharo. I thought that was obvious: the lighthouse logo is Pharo, not Smalltalk

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

Yes, but can the lighthouse logo be used to represent all Smalltalks? I don't think so. I like it very much, but the lighthouse has come to be closely associated with Pharo. Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote >> On 2 May 2017, at 16:01, Esteban A. Maringolo < > emaringolo@ > > wrote: >> >> OTOH we

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

> On 2 May 2017, at 16:35, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > > > 2017-05-02 11:22 GMT-03:00 Esteban A. Maringolo : > I prefer the rounded one more and it follows a better criteria for a design. > > Also the circle containing the pharo is the first thing I thought about when > I saw the movie Arri

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

Interesting. I had a similar idea with another Smalltalk logo I whipped up for Smalltalk Renaissance: Esteban A. Maringolo wrote > A decade+ ago I created the one attached, and I've seen used in some > Smalltalk related sites. I still lik

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

A decade+ ago I created the one attached, and I've seen used in some Smalltalk related sites. I still like it but it can be done better. I don't like the balloon, it's an indirect reference to the Byte cover which hasn't much to do with Smalltalk directly; as Pascal triangles didn't have much to d

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

2017-05-02 13:19 GMT+02:00 horrido : > Thanks. The reason I think it's a problem is because I tried to use this > logo > in the Wikipedia Smalltalk article, but the Wikipedia overlords kept > rejecting it, telling me that it wasn't an "official" logo and thus > Wikipedia would not accept it. What

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

Thanks. The reason I think it's a problem is because I tried to use this logo in the Wikipedia Smalltalk article, but the Wikipedia overlords kept rejecting it, telling me that it wasn't an "official" logo and thus Wikipedia would not accept it. What makes a logo "official?" Why are all the other l

Re: [Pharo-users] A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk

Hi Richard, 2017-05-02 12:57 GMT+02:00 horrido : > I have A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk > > > I like it. > . But there is one huge (insurmountable?) obstacle. > > If you refer to a standard 'org' that would force the