2017-05-02 13:19 GMT+02:00 horrido <horrido.hobb...@gmail.com>:

> Thanks. The reason I think it's a problem is because I tried to use this
> logo
> in the Wikipedia Smalltalk article, but the Wikipedia overlords kept
> rejecting it, telling me that it wasn't an "official" logo and thus
> Wikipedia would not accept it. What makes a logo "official?" Why are all
> the
> other language logos in my article (which I gleaned from Wikipedia) any
> more
> "official?"
>

Interesting angle for the problem (didn't think of that one).

My analysis as I would review. The common agreed logo for smalltalk is a
rendering of the Byte cover, this makes it the 'official' logo. Your's
hasn't reached the level of agreement / support necessary to reach that
level. And Wikipedia isn't the place where this change is to be decided:
wikipedia will follow the will of the overall community.

Other logos are either endorsed by the community  or used by the master
site for the language: for example, the Caml logo, the Clojure logo, both
appeara on the 'official' website for the language. For Caml, many
alternatives logos exist, but none of the alternatives appear on the
wikipedia page.

Now, changing a logo requires overcoming some friction(*)... writing around
Smalltalk and allways tagging with it could be a way to make it popular and
displace the old one. Your target would be reached once Wikipedia accept
yours, and that may require ESUG to decide to switch, and so on.

Regards,

Thierry


>
>
> Thierry Goubier wrote
> > Hi Richard,
> >
> > 2017-05-02 12:57 GMT+02:00 horrido &lt;
>
> > horrido.hobbies@
>
> > &gt;:
> >
> >> I have  A Logo Proposal for Smalltalk
> >> &lt;https://medium.com/@richardeng/a-logo-proposal-
> for-smalltalk-e78180f3ec02
> > &gt; >
> >>
> >
> > I like it.
> >
> >
> >> . But there is one huge (insurmountable?) obstacle.
> >>
> >>
> > If you refer to a standard 'org' that would force the use / change of a
> > logo, then I see no obstacle. I like it that the multiple shapes
> Smalltalk
> > has have left space for creativity and freedom.
> >
> > If your logo is nice and creative enough, and that it can be freely used,
> > then it will raise through the community and replace / displace the old
> > one.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Thierry
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
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> >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/A-Logo-
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> >>
> >>
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