Re: [Pharo-users] why Pillar

On Pon, 2015-12-28 at 21:41 -0500, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: > Skeletons go beyond themes (grav also have them). They're like  > mini-sites ready to be filled out with your own content. Like demo-sites or with empty slots to add content? > The fact that I don't need to compile the sit

Re: [Pharo-users] why Pillar

On 28/12/15 13:28, Saša Janiška wrote: On Pon, 2015-12-28 at 11:09 -0500, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: but themes, skeletons and interactivity. (Details in the referred blog post). I agree that there could be more themes available, although I'm not 100% sure I understand what is spec

Re: [Pharo-users] why Pillar

On 28/12/15 17:05, stepharo wrote: Yes, that is true. That is a cost of a smaller community. But the problem here is that your solution creates a self fulfilling situation. If everybody who comes to Pharo is encouraged to use tools outside of Pharo rather than using, improving and extending

Re: [Pharo-users] Block that doesn't leak memory

This is halt related, but you can see how Fuel checks wether the closure is "clean" and if true, it serializes a pruned version of it so that to avoid a whole stack. See BlockClosure >> fuelAccept: fuelAccept: aGeneralMapper ^ self *shouldBeSubstitutedByCleanCopy* "The 'onRecursionDo:' is just to

Re: [Pharo-users] why Pillar

Yes, that is true. That is a cost of a smaller community. But the problem here is that your solution creates a self fulfilling situation. If everybody who comes to Pharo is encouraged to use tools outside of Pharo rather than using, improving and extending the tools in Pharo. Then the communi

Re: [Pharo-users] why Pillar

On Pon, 2015-12-28 at 12:19 -0600, Jimmie Houchin wrote: > There are so many advantages to using tools in Pharo when using > Pharo.  I agree with it and that's why I asked what might be some advantages of using Pillar as documentation tool. > Do we now adopt yet another  language, environment, e

Re: [Pharo-users] what is Pharo's mission statement? (was Re: Transcendental #new (was Re: why Pillar))

On 12/28/2015 01:42 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: On 28 Dec 2015, at 19:33, Robert Withers wrote: On 12/28/2015 01:18 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 28 Dec 2015, at 19:11, Robert Withers wrote: I got you, stephano. I do not wish to be banned. Leaving aside established spiritual traditio

Re: [Pharo-users] what is Pharo's mission statement? (was Re: Transcendental #new (was Re: why Pillar))

> On 28 Dec 2015, at 19:33, Robert Withers wrote: > > > > On 12/28/2015 01:18 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> On 28 Dec 2015, at 19:11, Robert Withers wrote: >>> >>> I got you, stephano. I do not wish to be banned. >>> >>> Leaving aside established spiritual traditions, but picking out

Re: [Pharo-users] why Pillar

On Pon, 2015-12-28 at 18:03 +0100, stepharo wrote: Hello Stef, > have a look at Pillar and you can add footnotes and we will review > your code and integrate it. Don't you think it's too early for me to add such feature. ;) > We are just really busy right now. Don't worry. I tried Pillar, but

Re: [Pharo-users] what is Pharo's mission statement? (was Re: Transcendental #new (was Re: why Pillar))

On 12/28/2015 01:18 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 28 Dec 2015, at 19:11, Robert Withers wrote: I got you, stephano. I do not wish to be banned. Leaving aside established spiritual traditions, but picking out the pattern for exploration, what would you say the meta-meme of Pharo is? In

Re: [Pharo-users] why Pillar

On Pon, 2015-12-28 at 11:09 -0500, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: > but themes, skeletons and interactivity. (Details in the referred blog > post). I agree that there could be more themes available, although I'm not 100% sure I understand what is special about grav's skeleton's since it see

Re: [Pharo-users] why Pillar

On 12/28/2015 09:21 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: b. It has support for bibliographic references, footnotes a a more complete feature set. I wonder how is it that despite being present for so long, it does miss such features... Well that's the cost of being part of a small communi

Re: [Pharo-users] what is Pharo's mission statement? (was Re: Transcendental #new (was Re: why Pillar))

> On 28 Dec 2015, at 19:11, Robert Withers wrote: > > I got you, stephano. I do not wish to be banned. > > Leaving aside established spiritual traditions, but picking out the pattern > for exploration, what would you say the meta-meme of Pharo is? In other > words, what is the mission stateme

Re: [Pharo-users] Transcendental #new (was Re: why Pillar)

On 12/28/2015 01:00 PM, Martin Bähr wrote: Excerpts from Ben Coman's message of 2015-12-28 12:52:02 +0100: I'm quite comfortable with spirituality in the right context. Its just a *distraction* from the technical content. Your posts have interesting technical questions but the spiritual padd

[Pharo-users] what is Pharo's mission statement? (was Re: Transcendental #new (was Re: why Pillar))

I got you, stephano. I do not wish to be banned. Leaving aside established spiritual traditions, but picking out the pattern for exploration, what would you say the meta-meme of Pharo is? In other words, what is the mission statement? This would help me grasp the motivations of the community a

[Pharo-users] Pharo 5: Bug in removing key combinations

Hi all, Miguel and I found a bug in removing key combinations on a morph. Now they are global, while in Pharo 4 this was not the case. Consider the following code: | morph | morph := RubScrolledTextMorph new. (morph textArea) removeKeyCombination: $s command; rem

Re: [Pharo-users] Transcendental #new (was Re: why Pillar)

Excerpts from Ben Coman's message of 2015-12-28 12:52:02 +0100: > I'm quite comfortable with spirituality in the right context. Its > just a *distraction* from the technical content. Your posts have > interesting technical questions but the spiritual padding obfuscates > them such that I can't un

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

I don't know if this is the appropriate venue to do that, but I'd like to announce that I finished a stable implementation of a framework for developing Interactive Fiction in Pharo Smalltalk. Yes it is! Do you have a screenshots or something like that? I have no idea what is a Interactive Fi

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

Le 28/12/15 13:45, ericvm a écrit : There is an AdventureShell class made with Spec. You use it like this: (AdventureShell world: (CDGameWorld new)) openWithSpec. add it to a class comment somewhere :)

Re: [Pharo-users] why Pillar

Saša have a look at Pillar and you can add footnotes and we will review your code and integrate it. We are just really busy right now. Stef

Re: [Pharo-users] Transcendental #new (was Re: why Pillar)

To conclude this thread, Robert I suggest that you stay on a technical discussion. Do not force us to ban you (we will do it if you continue) because people are distracted. Most of us do not understand all these spiritual points and do not want to read about them in such mailing-lists. Stef

Re: [Pharo-users] why Pillar

Hi, On 28/12/15 10:43, Saša Janiška wrote: On Pon, 2015-12-28 at 10:21 -0500, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: That's why I recommending you pandoc's markdown variant. It has extensive support for footnotes, bibliographic references, tables, latex, a lot of exporting formats and extensibil

Re: [Pharo-users] why Pillar

On Pon, 2015-12-28 at 10:21 -0500, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: > That's why I recommending you pandoc's markdown variant. It has  > extensive support for footnotes, bibliographic references, tables,  > latex, a lot of exporting formats and extensibility via exporting and  > manipulating t

Re: [Pharo-users] Slack invitation

On Pon, 2015-12-28 at 12:04 -0300, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > Meanwhile you can join going to: http://192.241.152.94:3000/ Thank you...joined. ;) Sincerely, Gour -- Everyone is forced to act helplessly according to the qualities he has acquired from the modes of material nature; therefore

Re: [Pharo-users] why Pillar

Hi, On 28/12/15 06:16, Saša Janiška wrote: On Ned, 2015-12-27 at 18:50 -0500, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: Hiya, Seems that the reasons exposed in this tread are: It predated markdown, so was already used inside the community, and gives us finer control on the overall markup languag

Re: [Pharo-users] Slack invitation

Meanwhile you can join going to: http://192.241.152.94:3000/ Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2015-12-28 12:02 GMT-03:00 Esteban A. Maringolo : > It stopped working yesterday. It should be back in a couple of hours. > Issues with my server billing. > > Regards, > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > 2015-12-

Re: [Pharo-users] Slack invitation

It stopped working yesterday. It should be back in a couple of hours. Issues with my server billing. Regards, Esteban A. Maringolo 2015-12-28 11:42 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano : > oops, is true. > I will check with EstebanM what happened. > > Esteban > > On 28 Dec 2015, at 15:26, Alexandre Berge

Re: [Pharo-users] Slack invitation

oops, is true. I will check with EstebanM what happened. Esteban > On 28 Dec 2015, at 15:26, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > Strange, there was a button a couple of days ago. > No idea then... > > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

I don't believe so. On 12/28/2015 09:02 AM, ericvm wrote: 2015-12-28 11:35 GMT-02:00 Robert Withers [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email] >: Have you seen Quoth? It's sweet. http://netjam.org/quoth/ https://vimeo.com/50530082 Yes, I've seen it before, it is quite nice! I don't believe

Re: [Pharo-users] Slack invitation

Strange, there was a button a couple of days ago. No idea then... Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:13 AM, Saša Janiška wrote: > > On Pon, 2015-12-28

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

2015-12-28 11:53 GMT-02:00 Robert Withers : > Have you seen Quoth? It's sweet. > > http://netjam.org/quoth/ > https://vimeo.com/50530082 > Yes, I've seen it before, it is quite nice! I don't believe the source code is available, is it?

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

2015-12-28 11:35 GMT-02:00 Robert Withers [via Smalltalk] < ml-node+s1294792n4868654...@n4.nabble.com>: > Have you seen Quoth? It's sweet. > > http://netjam.org/quoth/ > https://vimeo.com/50530082 Yes, I've seen it before, it is quite nice! I don't believe the source code is available, is it?

Re: [Pharo-users] Slack invitation

On Pon, 2015-12-28 at 11:06 -0300, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > On http://pharo.org/community there is a small Slack button. Maybe > this automatize the invitation I do use Firefox (V43) on Debian and do not see any button? Sincerely, Gour --  For him who has conquered the mind, the mind is the

Re: [Pharo-users] Slack invitation

there is no automatisation possible, but with that button admins get the request :) > On 28 Dec 2015, at 15:06, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > Good question! How can one invite someone? > > On http://pharo.org/community there is a small > Slack button. Maybe this aut

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

How do I know that I can look at? Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > On Dec 28, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Eric Velten de Melo wrote: > > 2015-12-28 11:30 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Bergel

Re: [Pharo-users] Slack invitation

Good question! How can one invite someone? On http://pharo.org/community there is a small Slack button. Maybe this automatize the invitation Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

Have you seen Quoth? It's sweet. http://netjam.org/quoth/ https://vimeo.com/50530082 regards, Robert On 12/28/2015 08:31 AM, Eric Velten de Melo wrote: 2015-12-28 11:15 GMT-02:00 Robert Withers >: Cool, I am stuck in the cloak room and can't find the bar

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

2015-12-28 11:30 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Bergel : > Now it works! > Looks interesting! However, it is a bit crude. What are the available > commands? > The Cloak of Darkness adventure is very simple. It is just the "Hello World" of interactive fiction. You can look, look , take , drop , put on , go

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

Now it works! Looks interesting! However, it is a bit crude. What are the available commands? Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > On Dec 28, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Eric Velten de

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

2015-12-28 11:15 GMT-02:00 Robert Withers : > Cool, I am stuck in the cloak room and can't find the bar. > > Can you create objects inside the adventure? > You mean create objects on the fly while you are playing? Not in a straightforward way, but you could, it's Smalltalk. The main reason why I

[Pharo-users] Robotic Avatars

On 12/28/2015 08:11 AM, Robert Withers wrote: On 12/28/2015 08:01 AM, Johan Fabry wrote: Robert, Consider it from my point of view: I am not forcing you to think about design decisions of the JIT of the domain-specific language for robotics that am I building. Good Lord in Heaven, pleas

[Pharo-users] Slack invitation

Hiya, I'm told this is the right place to ask for an invitation to join Slack channel? Sincerely, Gour -- One who restrains the senses of action but whose mind dwells on sense objects certainly deludes himself and is called a pretender.

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

Cool, I am stuck in the cloak room and can't find the bar. Can you create objects inside the adventure? On 12/28/2015 08:07 AM, Eric Velten de Melo wrote: (AdventureShell world: (CDGameWorld new)) openWithSpec. -- Robert . .. ...^,^

Re: [Pharo-users] Transcendental #new (was Re: why Pillar)

On 12/28/2015 08:01 AM, Johan Fabry wrote: Robert, Consider it from my point of view: I am not forcing you to think about design decisions of the JIT of the domain-specific language for robotics that am I building. Good Lord in Heaven, please tell me more! I always love to learn more and

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

There is an AdventureShell class made with Spec. You use it like this: (AdventureShell world: (CDGameWorld new)) openWithSpec. It is pretty basic, but gets the job done. 2015-12-28 10:51 GMT-02:00 Robert Withers : > This looks interesting. How can it be used and made interactive? I would > like

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

There is an AdventureShell class made with Spec. You use it like this: (AdventureShell world: (CDGameWorld new)) openWithSpec. It is pretty basic, but gets the job done. 2015-12-28 10:33 GMT-02:00 Robert Withers [via Smalltalk] < ml-node+s1294792n4868638...@n4.nabble.com>: > This looks interest

Re: [Pharo-users] Transcendental #new (was Re: why Pillar)

Robert, by talking about ‘a knee-jerk reaction’ and ‘a lack of knowledge’ you are being rude to us. Please don’t do that. In our mails we have been courteous and avoided using such hurtful expressions. Also, there is a difference between lack of knowledge and lack of time. I am only human with

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

This looks interesting. How can it be used and made interactive? I would like to launch the CDGameWorld that did load with this configuration as an interactive session, to see how this package is used. cheers, Robert On 12/27/2015 10:14 PM, Eric Velten de Melo wrote: I think I fixed the issues

Re: [Pharo-users] Transcendental #new (was Re: why Pillar)

Ben, I appreciate your reply. We were both involved in establishing boundaries: yours in the negative (don't post such here) and mine in the positive (I'll feel free to post on such matters). I'll follow your lead and not respond anymore to this thread. Best, Robert On 12/28/2015 06:52 AM, Be

Re: [Pharo-users] Transcendental #new (was Re: why Pillar)

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 4:01 AM, Robert Withers wrote: > Sure Ben, I could. My apologies if the paradigm of spirituality bothers you > but it is a perfectly legitimate source of analogy AND interactive fiction, > having just been exposed to what that is. I'm quite comfortable with spirituality in

Re: [Pharo-users] Transcendental #new (was Re: why Pillar)

On 12/28/2015 04:58 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: 2015-12-28 3:15 GMT+01:00 Robert Withers >: Here's the thing that gets my goat: I had already acknowledged it was enough for the list and was signing off further comment when Ben decided he really nee

Re: [Pharo-users] why Pillar

On Ned, 2015-12-27 at 18:50 -0500, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: Hiya, > Seems that the reasons exposed in this tread are: It predated > markdown,  so was already used inside the community, and gives us > finer control on  the overall markup language, including exporting > formats.  Nothi

Re: [Pharo-users] Transcendental #new (was Re: why Pillar)

2015-12-28 3:15 GMT+01:00 Robert Withers : > Here's the thing that gets my goat: I had already acknowledged it was > enough for the list and was signing off further comment when Ben decided he > really needed to add his two cents. It is unfortunate he did not spend his > change in a positive manne