Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] OS Project with initial support for Ubuntu and Unix

2015-01-25 Thread Martin Bähr
Excerpts from Ben Coman's message of 2015-01-26 08:42:23 +0100: > Just a random thought. Can you see what effect installing the slice for > the following issue has? > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14669 can't access that without registration. sorry, but that's a serious impediment. i alre

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] OS Project with initial support for Ubuntu and Unix

2015-01-25 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Martin Bähr < mba...@email.archlab.tuwien.ac.at> wrote: > Excerpts from Torsten Bergmann's message of 2015-01-26 05:49:18 +0100: > > > i am not running ubuntu at all. > > and you wonder why an ubuntu specific project is not working - funny ;) > > i am not wondering

Re: [Pharo-users] any imap + smtp client available?

2015-01-25 Thread Martin Bähr
Excerpts from Martin Bähr's message of 2015-01-26 02:00:14 +0100: > Excerpts from Mayuresh Kathe's message of 2015-01-25 22:42:37 +0100: > > is there any email client with imap + smtp support available under > > "pharo" at the moment? > > > > problem: > > due to compute power constraints, i am run

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] OS Project with initial support for Ubuntu and Unix

2015-01-25 Thread Martin Bähr
Excerpts from Torsten Bergmann's message of 2015-01-26 05:49:18 +0100: > > i see no reason why opening a terminal should be ubuntu specific. in any > > case > > though, it should just fail and not hang. > Check class side methods UbuntuShell. > It only calls "gnome-terminal" which might not be ava

Re: [Pharo-users] Conditional CSV parsing

2015-01-25 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
It is possible :) I work with DNA sequences, there could be millions of common SNPs in a genome. Cheers, Hernán 2015-01-26 3:33 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : > > > On 26 Jan 2015, at 06:32, Hernán Morales Durand < > hernan.mora...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > 2015-01-23 18:00 GMT-03:0

Re: [Pharo-users] Conditional CSV parsing

2015-01-25 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 26 Jan 2015, at 06:32, Hernán Morales Durand > wrote: > > > > 2015-01-23 18:00 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : > > > On 23 Jan 2015, at 20:53, Hernán Morales Durand > > wrote: > > > > Hi Sven, > > > > 2015-01-23 16:06 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : > > Hi Hernán, > > > > > On 23

Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalk, objects and design - chamond liu

2015-01-25 Thread Ignacio Sniechowski
Also the book by Chamond Liu has a chapter in Design Patterns... *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA* *Prosavic SRL* *Tel: (011) 4542-6714* On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:38 AM, Sebastian Heidbrink wrote: > no! > > > > > On 2015-01-25 7:48 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > >> thanks. a qu

Re: [Pharo-users] Conditional CSV parsing

2015-01-25 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
2015-01-23 18:00 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : > > > On 23 Jan 2015, at 20:53, Hernán Morales Durand < > hernan.mora...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Sven, > > > > 2015-01-23 16:06 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : > > Hi Hernán, > > > > > On 23 Jan 2015, at 19:50, Hernán Morales Durand < > her

Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalk, objects and design - chamond liu

2015-01-25 Thread Joachim Tuchel
Am 26.01.2015 04:48 schrieb Mayuresh Kathe : > > thanks. a question; would the second book require me to work through the > original book on design patterns first? > No, you will able to understand the Smalltalk companion without the pattern bible. Chamond Liu is definitely a good book! Joac

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Hi Sebastian, 2015-01-25 14:52 GMT-03:00 Sebastian Heidbrink : > Okay, I am new to the UI implementations and options in the Pharo > world and I am really confused. > > So, am I right to say. > - Polymorph is no more really the way to go? > Polymorph is a very low-level UI "framework". I wo

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] OS Project with initial support for Ubuntu and Unix

2015-01-25 Thread Martin Bähr
Excerpts from Torsten Bergmann's message of 2015-01-26 05:49:18 +0100: > > i am not running ubuntu at all. > and you wonder why an ubuntu specific project is not working - funny ;) i am not wondering why it's not working, i am wondering why it is hanging. if the code aborts and i get thrown into a

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Sound of Silence

2015-01-25 Thread Evan Donahue
That did the trick. Thanks. Evan -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Sound-of-Silence-tp4801562p4801633.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] OS Project with initial support for Ubuntu and Unix

2015-01-25 Thread Torsten Bergmann
> i am not running ubuntu at all. and you wonder why an ubuntu specific project is not working - funny ;) > pharo4 is a few weeks old, i'll update that. > > i see no reason why opening a terminal should be ubuntu specific. in any case > though, it should just fail and not hang. Check class side

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] OS Project with initial support for Ubuntu and Unix

2015-01-25 Thread Martin Bähr
Excerpts from Torsten Bergmann's message of 2015-01-26 05:14:38 +0100: > > i can't get it to work. > > whatever i try to load, pharo just hangs when i try to use one of the linux > > menu entries. > Are you sure you run the latest ubuntu, the latest 4.0 image and the latest > Pharo > virtual mach

Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalk, objects and design - chamond liu

2015-01-25 Thread Sebastian Heidbrink
no! On 2015-01-25 7:48 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: thanks. a question; would the second book require me to work through the original book on design patterns first? ~mayuresh On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 06:06:31PM -0800, Sebastian Heidbrink wrote: Definitely a good book! You might also consider

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] OS Project with initial support for Ubuntu and Unix

2015-01-25 Thread Torsten Bergmann
> i can't get it to work. > whatever i try to load, pharo just hangs when i try to use one of the linux > menu entries. Are you sure you run the latest ubuntu, the latest 4.0 image and the latest Pharo virtual machine? Did you follow the PPA installation guide on: http://pharo.org/download? In

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] OS Project with initial support for Ubuntu and Unix

2015-01-25 Thread Martin Bähr
Excerpts from Torsten Bergmann's message of 2015-01-09 11:27:01 +0100: > beside the existing "OS-Windows" support for Windows operating system > the "Pharo OS project" (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~OS) now also has > new subprojects for "OS-Unix" and "OS-Linux-Ubuntu" with some initial > support fo

Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalk, objects and design - chamond liu

2015-01-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
thanks. a question; would the second book require me to work through the original book on design patterns first? ~mayuresh On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 06:06:31PM -0800, Sebastian Heidbrink wrote: > Definitely a good book! > > You might also consider these, too: > > for the couch, or desk while wait

Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalk, objects and design - chamond liu

2015-01-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
great. i think i'll work through it to get a better grip over smalltalk using "pharo", post which i'll start off with the "pharo" books. thanks for the note. ~mayuresh On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 10:43:48PM -0300, Ignacio Sniechowski wrote: > It's a very good introductory book for Smalltalk in gener

Re: [Pharo-users] any imap + smtp client available?

2015-01-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:44:29AM +0800, Ben Coman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > > hello, > > > > is there any email client with imap + smtp support available under > > "pharo" at the moment? > > > > problem: > > due to compute power constraints, i am runnin

Re: [Pharo-users] any imap + smtp client available?

2015-01-25 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > hello, > > is there any email client with imap + smtp support available under > "pharo" at the moment? > > problem: > due to compute power constraints, i am running "pharo" as my only > application via xinit, having to constantly switch bet

Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalk, objects and design - chamond liu

2015-01-25 Thread Sebastian Heidbrink
Definitely a good book! You might also consider these, too: for the couch, or desk while waiting: http://sdmeta.gforge.inria.fr/FreeBooks/WithStyle/SmalltalkWithStyle.pdf a must http://www.amazon.ca/The-Design-Patterns-Smalltalk-Companion/dp/0201184621 Sebastian On 2015-01-25 1:37 PM, Mayure

Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalk, objects and design - chamond liu

2015-01-25 Thread Ignacio Sniechowski
It's a very good introductory book for Smalltalk in general but it is not focused on Pharo but in IBM's Smalltalk. It has a good treatment of OOP, and the basic classes. But if you want to learn about specific Pharo frameworks and APIs it wont help you that much. cheers Nacho *Lic. Ignacio Sniec

Re: [Pharo-users] any imap + smtp client available?

2015-01-25 Thread Martin Bähr
Excerpts from Mayuresh Kathe's message of 2015-01-25 22:42:37 +0100: > is there any email client with imap + smtp support available under > "pharo" at the moment? > > problem: > due to compute power constraints, i am running "pharo" as my only > application via xinit, having to constantly switch b

[Pharo-users] any imap + smtp client available?

2015-01-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, is there any email client with imap + smtp support available under "pharo" at the moment? problem: due to compute power constraints, i am running "pharo" as my only application via xinit, having to constantly switch between "pharo" and console (for mutt) is becoming painful. :) ~mayuresh

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Sound of Silence

2015-01-25 Thread Nicolai Hess
I don't know exaclty why we don't build the pulse audio plugin for pharo. But you can take a squeak vm (Squeak-4.3-all-in-one) for example and copy the Squeak-4.3-All-in-One/Contents/Linux-i686/lib/squeak/4.4.7-2357/so.vm-sound-pulse in your pharo-vm directory pharo-vm/vm-sound-pulse after that, s

[Pharo-users] smalltalk, objects and design - chamond liu

2015-01-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, would the book; smalltalk, objects and design by chamond liu be considered good to work through using "pharo"? i am currently working through; squeak, a quick trip to object-land. while nice as an introduction, doesn't feel like it might be deep enough for me as i progress further. i am l

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-01-25 18:52 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Heidbrink : > Okay, I am new to the UI implementations and options in the Pharo > world and I am really confused. > > So, am I right to say. > - Polymorph is no more really the way to go? > - Spec is the official way to go right now? > - Roassal2 is the wa

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Johan Fabry
That’s easy :-), the Pharo tools themselves are examples. Have a look at the hierarchy of ComposableModel. You will not only find the basic widgets there, but also all UIs built with Spec that are delivered in Pharo. A random example from that is the code critics browser CriticBrowser. You can

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Johan Fabry
Hi, I’ll try to answer what I can ... Spec is the way to go, Roassal2 is the best visualization tool we have (and I think it’s excellent), Glamour is separate from Moose. If I may simplify: Spec is for any kind of traditional user interface, where Glamour is for a subset of that: those where t

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

2015-01-25 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Sebastian, Thanks for the feedback. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Sebastian Sastre < sebast...@flowingconcept.com> wrote: > It’s really nice to see innovation in this area. I feel grateful for this > work. > > Here comes my UX notes > > *Things I like:* > > - Publish to the cloud > - Able

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

2015-01-25 Thread Sebastian Sastre
thanks for making easy to contribute! Expect PR anytime > On Jan 25, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > >> On 25 Jan 2015, at 18:59, Sebastian Sastre >> wrote: >> >> Sure, I’d gladly sent you a merge request to get that improved >> >> Let me know how I could take a look >

Re: [Pharo-users] comparing FileReference

2015-01-25 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Hi Martin, This is a valid question, as far as I can see, FileSystem does not resolve .. itself and leaves that to the underlying OS. Maybe we should turn this into an issue ? Sven > On 24 Jan 2015, at 09:37, Martin Bähr > wrote: > > hi, > > i can't seem to figure out how to normalizethe

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

2015-01-25 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 25 Jan 2015, at 18:59, Sebastian Sastre > wrote: > > Sure, I’d gladly sent you a merge request to get that improved > > Let me know how I could take a look https://github.com/svenvc/zinc/tree/master/repository/Zinc-WWS-Server.package You can load this using ConfigurationOfZincHTTPCompon

Re: [Pharo-users] when was pharo announced to the world?

2015-01-25 Thread Norbert Hartl
> Am 25.01.2015 um 17:13 schrieb Marcus Denker : > > >> On 25 Jan 2015, at 13:48, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >> >> hi sven, >> >> yes, i did look at it from a birthday perspective. >> and yes, it would be nice if stephane or marcus do suggest a date. :) > > we started sometime in 2008. I know

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Sound of Silence

2015-01-25 Thread Evan Donahue
64-bit Arch linux 3.17.6-1-ARCH I seem to be running pulse-audio with alsa, and I believe I have all the 32-compadibility libraries installed, but my experience with linux sound is limited. What is Pharo expecting? Thanks, Evan -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Soun

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
These are pharo-dev discussions, not pharo-users discussions. This is about stuff (far) in the future, not current usage. > On 25 Jan 2015, at 18:51, Aliaksei Syrel wrote: > > Hi, > > What will happen with Athens when Pharo moves to Spur? As I know NativeBoost > doesn't work in Spur yet > > C

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

2015-01-25 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Sure, I’d gladly sent you a merge request to get that improved Let me know how I could take a look > On Jan 25, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > >> On 25 Jan 2015, at 18:24, Sebastian Sastre >> wrote: >> >> - the shared snippet page has a terrible design, the contrast is

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Sebastian Heidbrink
Hi! Is there any library or resource where I could have a look what others have done with Spec? I have a hard time to find screenshots and additional information on what was used. Sebastian On 2015-01-25 2:34 AM, Johan Fabry wrote: Hi Sebastian, for building UIs I would go with Spec. It ho

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Sebastian Heidbrink
Okay, I am new to the UI implementations and options in the Pharo world and I am really confused. So, am I right to say. - Polymorph is no more really the way to go? - Spec is the official way to go right now? - Roassal2 is the way to go for visualizations? - Athens is well, I can't even sa

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread Aliaksei Syrel
Hi, What will happen with Athens when Pharo moves to Spur? As I know NativeBoost doesn't work in Spur yet Cheers, Alex On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > On 25 Jan 2015, at 17:39, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > Am 25.01.2015 16:20 schrieb "Esteban Lorenzano" : > > > > Bu

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

2015-01-25 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 25 Jan 2015, at 18:24, Sebastian Sastre > wrote: > > - the shared snippet page has a terrible design, the contrast issue is > probably the most severe, being unclean the second one He Seb, I designed that years ago over a WE - you're right, I am really good at design ;-) It is just on

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 25 Jan 2015, at 17:39, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > Am 25.01.2015 16:20 schrieb "Esteban Lorenzano" >: > > > > But next year we will have an Athens based UI, so the performance will > > improve dramatically :) > > Yes? What? Bloc or morphic on top of athens ? >

Re: [Pharo-users] Binary tree

2015-01-25 Thread Sebastian Heidbrink
Here it is,... I new I saw this once. Maybe also this if you are looking for something particular. http://www.squeaksource.com/BTree.html On 2015-01-25 6:53 AM, Natalia Tymchuk wrote: Hello, Is there any implementation of the binary tree in Pharo? Best reagards, Natalia

Re: [Pharo-users] "Improper store into indexable object" and weird variable names

2015-01-25 Thread Davide Varvello via Pharo-users
--- Begin Message --- I know, Stef, but actually I can't migrate to pharo 3. Probably the issue was caused by something deleted changes before a certain time even if I don't know what it was Cheers Davide stepharo wrote > Davide > > consider that Pharo 20 is around 2 years old and we massively

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

2015-01-25 Thread Sebastian Sastre
It’s really nice to see innovation in this area. I feel grateful for this work. Here comes my UX notes Things I like: - Publish to the cloud - Able to copy-paste the content of the box with feedback - Encourages inspect of that very instance (this one was really good!) - transforms the printed

Re: [Pharo-users] Binary tree

2015-01-25 Thread Sebastian Heidbrink
You may have a look here? http://www.eli.sdsu.edu/courses/spring02/cs635/notes/btree/btree.html On 2015-01-25 6:53 AM, Natalia Tymchuk wrote: Hello, Is there any implementation of the binary tree in Pharo? Best reagards, Natalia

Re: [Pharo-users] Binary tree

2015-01-25 Thread Natalia Tymchuk
Thanks a lot, Phil. Regards, Natalia > On 25 Jan 2015, at 17:03, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > > I stored a package a while ago. > > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~philippeback/Trees > > Phil > > Le 25 janv. 2015 15:53, "Natalia Tymchuk"

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Sound of Silence

2015-01-25 Thread Nicolai Hess
on what platform ? linux , mac or windows? 2015-01-25 17:55 GMT+01:00 Evan Donahue : > Hello, > > I'm trying to get sounds working in Pharo and I seem to be unable to > locate a combination of PharoExtras/Sound and image/vm version that add up > to audible sound. > > The best I've done so far is

[Pharo-users] Pharo Sound of Silence

2015-01-25 Thread Evan Donahue
Hello, I'm trying to get sounds working in Pharo and I seem to be unable to locate a combination of PharoExtras/Sound and image/vm version that add up to audible sound. The best I've done so far is pharo3/sound6.1, which lets me beep, and write sounds to wav files, but the primitive for playing s

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread Nicolai Hess
Am 25.01.2015 16:20 schrieb "Esteban Lorenzano" : > > But next year we will have an Athens based UI, so the performance will improve dramatically :) Yes? What? Bloc or morphic on top of athens ? And what makes you think, Athens is fast er? > Real problem is to invest time (and talent) to improve

Re: [Pharo-users] when was pharo announced to the world?

2015-01-25 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 25 Jan 2015, at 13:48, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > hi sven, > > yes, i did look at it from a birthday perspective. > and yes, it would be nice if stephane or marcus do suggest a date. :) > we started sometime in 2008. I know that discussions started very early (Jan, Feb?), e.g to find a na

Re: [Pharo-users] Binary tree

2015-01-25 Thread p...@highoctane.be
I stored a package a while ago. http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~philippeback/Trees Phil Le 25 janv. 2015 15:53, "Natalia Tymchuk" a écrit : > Hello, > > Is there any implementation of the binary tree in Pharo? > > Best reagards, > Natalia > > > >

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread kilon alios
frankly I dont see why people keep linking this design document. Google has no clue about good design as most software companies, they definitely droped the ball in that area with Android. But that is my opinion. Pharo can be definetly be improved in several areas but it has been already a huge imp

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

2015-01-25 Thread Tudor Girba
Thanks. Here are some examples: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/guiding-custom-changes-with-gtinspector/ http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/looking-for-hardcoded-traversal-methods/ http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/debugging-the-debugger-with-the-inspector/ Doru On Sun, Jan 25, 20

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

2015-01-25 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Ben, > > In this case, why don't you inspect the list to the right and see a > preview within the inspector? > > Cheers, > Doru > Maybe just habit. Sometimes its harder to change these little things, or even to recognise that you've got t

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
But next year we will have an Athens based UI, so the performance will improve dramatically :) Real problem is to invest time (and talent) to improve current design... It costs much more than you could believe. Esteban > On 25/1/2015, at 15:42, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 25, 201

Re: [Pharo-users] NBSQLite3 on OS X - Pharo 3j

2015-01-25 Thread David T. Lewis
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 09:54:12AM +0100, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > > On 25 Jan 2015, at 07:13, Pierce Ng wrote: > > > > On OSX, "OSProcessAccessor forThisOSProcess primGetCurrentWorkingDirectory" > > gives "/", while on Linux the same gives "/home/pierce/work/pharo30". (Above > > require

[Pharo-users] Binary tree

2015-01-25 Thread Natalia Tymchuk
Hello, Is there any implementation of the binary tree in Pharo? Best reagards, Natalia

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 03:35:40PM +0100, Aliaksei Syrel wrote: > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > > http://www.google.com/design/spec/material-design/introduction.html > > > It is almost impossible to do it like this in Pharo now because of low > drawing performance a

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Peter Uhnak
Hi, what is in Deep into Pharo is describing Roassal1, but now we have Roassal2. Also the book is still work in progress... I believe Alex mentioned releasing it in mid 2015. Right now also the pharo and moose mailing list is good source of information, since roassal was discussed a lot in the

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread Aliaksei Syrel
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > http://www.google.com/design/spec/material-design/introduction.html It is almost impossible to do it like this in Pharo now because of low drawing performance and bad support of animations. Sad but true. Cheers, Alex

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Stephan Eggermont
That Maya Node Editor looks like a PasteUpMorph with Connectors to me. You'd might want to wrap them (Morphic) in a in a standard window with menu bar and toolbar from either Spec or Glamour for now. And then follow Bloc developments to move there. Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2015-01-25 19:30, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: while i admire what the pharo team has done with it's user interface, i believe it can be improved. has google's "material design" been considered off-late? do take a look at; http://www.google.com/design/ actually, a more precise 'url' would be as bel

[Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
while i admire what the pharo team has done with it's user interface, i believe it can be improved. has google's "material design" been considered off-late? do take a look at; http://www.google.com/design/ ~mayuresh

Re: [Pharo-users] when was pharo announced to the world?

2015-01-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hi sven, yes, i did look at it from a birthday perspective. and yes, it would be nice if stephane or marcus do suggest a date. :) ~mayuresh On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 01:30:37PM +0100, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Hi Mayuresh, > > You mean like a birthday ? Good idea ! > > I'll leave it to St??

Re: [Pharo-users] NBSQLite3 on OS X - Pharo 3j

2015-01-25 Thread Pierce Ng
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 09:54:12AM +0100, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > On 25 Jan 2015, at 07:13, Pierce Ng wrote: > > On OSX, "OSProcessAccessor forThisOSProcess primGetCurrentWorkingDirectory" > > gives "/", while on Linux the same gives "/home/pierce/work/pharo30". (Above > > requires the OS

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 25 Jan 2015, at 13:26, Piotr Klibert wrote: > >> >> is there a high-level overview of Roassal >> architecture somewhere? >> > > I just found http://agilevisualization.com/#book Yes, that one. The thing with Roassal and friends is also the examples, there are tons of them. But class co

Re: [Pharo-users] when was pharo announced to the world?

2015-01-25 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Hi Mayuresh, You mean like a birthday ? Good idea ! I'll leave it to Stéphane or Marcus to propose a date, Wikipedia says Pharo 1.0 was released on April 15th. But Pharo was of course already active for quite some time before that. Sven > On 25 Jan 2015, at 12:36, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > >

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Piotr Klibert
> > is there a high-level overview of Roassal > architecture somewhere? > I just found http://agilevisualization.com/#book - last time I read about Roassal was in a draft for Deep into Pharo a couple of years ago and I'm glad to see that documentation situation improved so much. Added to my readin

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Piotr Klibert
Hi, > > It however does not support adding > widgets without decoration straight to the desktop. > What about #openWorldWithSpec? As I understand this your top-level widget becomes your desktop and you can do whatever you want with it. > > As for pretty graphs, I recommend Roassal2 by the Objec

[Pharo-users] when was pharo announced to the world?

2015-01-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hi, a trivial question; when was pharo announced to the world? we all could use that day as the one to collectively chip in some amount towards the project's operational expenses. a nice burst of funds, once a year might be a good thing compared to a funding drive (as some of the other open sourc

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Johan Fabry
Hi Sebastian, for building UIs I would go with Spec. It however does not support adding widgets without decoration straight to the desktop. What’s wrong with having them open in different windows? If the windows keep references to each other they can interact (more specifically if the different

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2015-01-25 Thread Piotr Klibert
>> >> selection and additionally a way to make selection non-continuous, >> essentially what most list widgets do with Ctrl+click. > > > This should work (justed test this with a ListModel with multiselection > enabled) > Turns out it works, indeed, but - at least on Linux - with Ctrl + Right cli

Re: [Pharo-users] NBSQLite3 on OS X - Pharo 3j

2015-01-25 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 25 Jan 2015, at 07:13, Pierce Ng wrote: > > On OSX, "OSProcessAccessor forThisOSProcess primGetCurrentWorkingDirectory" > gives "/", while on Linux the same gives "/home/pierce/work/pharo30". (Above > requires the OSProcess package which is available from the Config Browser.) Why not just