Hi,

I’ll try to answer what I can ... Spec is the way to go, Roassal2 is the best 
visualization tool we have (and I think it’s excellent), Glamour is separate 
from Moose.

If I may simplify: Spec is for any kind of traditional user interface, where 
Glamour is for a subset of that: those where there is a flow of data from one 
widget to a next widget and so on.

Spec uses Morphic for its widgets, but is not tightly coupled to Morphic, the 
idea is to move on to other things later. Non-widget morphs can be incorporated 
in Spec windows, and Roassal2 visualizations also ( for example of the latter 
see my work on LRP http://pleiad.cl/LRP ). As long as I will be using Roassal2 
(hopefully a long time) I can guarantee you that I will annoy the Roassal guys 
when integration with Spec breaks. In general this has never been a major 
issue, and I am quite sure that it never will be.

> On Jan 25, 2015, at 18:52, Sebastian Heidbrink <shei...@yahoo.de> wrote:
> 
> Okay, .... I am new to the UI implementations and options in the Pharo world 
> and I am really confused.
> 
> So, am I right to say.
> - Polymorph is no more really the way to go?
> - Spec is the official way to go right now?
> - Roassal2 is the way to go for visualizations?
> - Athens is well, I can't even say.... hmm interesting when it comes to SVG?
> - Glamour has to be seen in conjunction with Moose? I had a look into 
> GTSpotter and I have the feeling this took a long long time for 
> implementation.
> - No e.g. Google material like UI possible since there are no frameworks 
> available to do animation stuff.... didn't Squeak and E-Toys do that? Is 
> there nothing left in Pharo?
> - Lumiere or Roassal3D when it come to sprites?
> 
> Are all of these framework compatible to each other? How much maintenance and 
> repair effort may I expect when I combine e.g. Spec with Morphic and Roassal2?
> 
> VASmalltalk has a very strong separation of UI-View and UI-Control layers. 
> Which Pharo framework could allow me t replace the look and feel of my 
> application without loosing my event handling/ control layers?
> 
> This is Smalltalk and this is objects, and I am bound so much to a windowing 
> representation? There is nothing I could do like with HTML5 and css? Put some 
> pictures in the world and just add event handlers to them?
> 
> So I might go with Spec and Morphic then? Glamour is more Moose? Or is there 
> a direction to deprecate one of them?
> 
> Thanks for all you into so far. I'll carefully read all the so far provided 
> resources.
> 
> Sebastian



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