Selena Deckelmann wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Robert Haas wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I'm game, though I'm hoping not to become the guy who spends all
> > his time doing release planning, because I like writing code, too.
> > Hopefully Selena won't mind my mentioning that she sent me a private
"Greg Sabino Mullane" writes:
>> We also very occasionally step in and make a decision if -hackers (or
>> another group) is deadlocked over an issue. For example, the whole
>> 'change the name' debate.
> I wouldn't really hold that up as a shining example of a core decision. :)
The point of c
Greg,
> Time to start lobbying for the name change again I suppose. As Bruce said
> two years ago in August 2007:
Man, you are a masochist, aren't you?
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> We also very occasionally step in and make a decision if -hackers (or
> another group) is deadlocked over an issue. For example, the whole
> 'change the name' de
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 07:22:27PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
> >> That implies that we need a release manager. Electing one would be the
> >> first step. That's a lot of work and responsibility, with lots of
> >> potential for making people cross
2009/9/4 Joshua D. Drake :
> On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 12:00 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
>> And /me pokes Brendan Jurd. :-)
>>
>
> Hah! I almost listed him. /me adds a poke to Brendan Jurd.
>
/me stirs from sleep to announce "huh? whaddyawant?"
Seriously though, I have been keeping an eye on this thre
* Joshua D. Drake (j...@commandprompt.com) wrote:
> She would definitely be a good option if she has time. I know that I
> would be interested and I would like to see at least one long time
> -hacker on board.
I don't presume to be a long time -hacker, but I'm interested in what I
can do to help w
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Josh Berkus writes:
>> Selena, Robert, Brendan, Kevin,
>> One of the ideas behind the Alpha releases was to give someone other
>> than the core team some practice doing releases.
>
> Uh, what's the point of that? The existing core team has that p
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Josh Berkus writes:
>> Selena, Robert, Brendan, Kevin,
>> One of the ideas behind the Alpha releases was to give someone other
>> than the core team some practice doing releases.
>
> Uh, what's the point of that? The existing core team has that pr
Josh Berkus writes:
> Selena, Robert, Brendan, Kevin,
> One of the ideas behind the Alpha releases was to give someone other
> than the core team some practice doing releases.
Uh, what's the point of that? The existing core team has that process
perfectly well in hand. What I thought this discu
Josh Berkus wrote:
> So I think it would make sense for you guys to do Alpha2.
I'm not really clear on what that means. I'm assuming that part of
the goal is for us to become more intimately familiar with the details
of putting together a release, documenting the process, and suggesting
possi
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Selena, Robert, Brendan, Kevin,
>
> One of the ideas behind the Alpha releases was to give someone other
> than the core team some practice doing releases.
>
> So I think it would make sense for you guys to do Alpha2. Agreed, Peter?
I'm up for
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Selena, Robert, Brendan, Kevin,
>
> One of the ideas behind the Alpha releases was to give someone other
> than the core team some practice doing releases.
>
> So I think it would make sense for you guys to do Alpha2. Agreed, Peter?
I have no i
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 10:21 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Selena, Robert, Brendan, Kevin,
>
> One of the ideas behind the Alpha releases was to give someone other
> than the core team some practice doing releases.
>
> So I think it would make sense for you guys to do Alpha2. Agreed, Peter?
I thin
Selena, Robert, Brendan, Kevin,
One of the ideas behind the Alpha releases was to give someone other
than the core team some practice doing releases.
So I think it would make sense for you guys to do Alpha2. Agreed, Peter?
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On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Robert Haas wrote:
> Yeah, I'm game, though I'm hoping not to become the guy who spends all
> his time doing release planning, because I like writing code, too.
> Hopefully Selena won't mind my mentioning that she sent me a private
> email expressing some interest i
"Joshua D. Drake" wrote:
> /me pokes Robert Haas and Kevin Grittner
I'm honored to be suggested for such a role. I'm happy to do what I
can, but am reluctant to put myself too squarely in any critical path,
as I have responsibility for dealing with some family health issues
which make unpredi
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 12:00 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> > O.k. so the second part of this, is I feel it should contain a majority
> > of people who are not already being slammed into the ground by community
> > work. E.g; let's get some fresh blood. It is certainly important to have
> > a couple o
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 11:41 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Joshua D. Drake
>> wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 07:44 +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>> >> On ons, 2009-09-02 at 12:52 -0700, Joshua D. Drake wro
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 11:41 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Joshua D. Drake
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 07:44 +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> >> On ons, 2009-09-02 at 12:52 -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> >> > Isn't "core" supposed to be the release manager?
>
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 07:44 +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>> On ons, 2009-09-02 at 12:52 -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>> > Isn't "core" supposed to be the release manager?
>>
>> The core team has historically been the release *maker* and h
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 07:44 +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On ons, 2009-09-02 at 12:52 -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > Isn't "core" supposed to be the release manager?
>
> The core team has historically been the release *maker* and has some
> done management of the final phases of that process
On ons, 2009-09-02 at 12:52 -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Isn't "core" supposed to be the release manager?
The core team has historically been the release *maker* and has some
done management of the final phases of that process. But I think the
sentiment is growing that we need more management
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Robert, Heikki,
>
>> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-08/msg01651.php
>> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-08/msg01983.php
>>
>> Josh's schedule was subsequently endorsed by Simon Riggs. So by my
>> count we now
Robert, Heikki,
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-08/msg01651.php
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-08/msg01983.php
>
> Josh's schedule was subsequently endorsed by Simon Riggs. So by my
> count we now have four votes for a 4-CF schedule and one for a 3-CF
> s
Robert Haas writes:
> Anyway, I'm still curious about what'n'all -core actually does.
Not a lot. That's a feature, not a bug. Most project management
discussion happens on -hackers. If -hackers can't come to a decision
then core will try to resolve the deadlock (assuming we can agree ;-))
but
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
> Previous emails from Tom seem to indicate that the mandate of -core is
> mostly to decide things like the timing of releases.
That's not all we do.
> If we gave that
> job to somebody else, would there be anything left for -core to do?
> If so,
Robert Haas writes:
> Previous emails from Tom seem to indicate that the mandate of -core is
> mostly to decide things like the timing of releases. If we gave that
> job to somebody else, would there be anything left for -core to do?
> If so, what? And on the flip side, it is precisely because o
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Alvaro
> Herrera wrote:
>> Joshua D. Drake escribió:
>>> On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 12:50 -0700, Selena Deckelmann wrote:
>>> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Heikki
>>> > Linnakangas wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > That implies
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Alvaro
Herrera wrote:
> Joshua D. Drake escribió:
>> On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 12:50 -0700, Selena Deckelmann wrote:
>> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Heikki
>> > Linnakangas wrote:
>> >
>> > > That implies that we need a release manager. Electing one would be the
>>
Joshua D. Drake escribió:
> On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 12:50 -0700, Selena Deckelmann wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Heikki
> > Linnakangas wrote:
> >
> > > That implies that we need a release manager. Electing one would be the
> > > first step. That's a lot of work and responsibility, with
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 12:50 -0700, Selena Deckelmann wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Heikki
> Linnakangas wrote:
>
> > That implies that we need a release manager. Electing one would be the
> > first step. That's a lot of work and responsibility, with lots of
> > potential for making peop
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Heikki
Linnakangas wrote:
> That implies that we need a release manager. Electing one would be the
> first step. That's a lot of work and responsibility, with lots of
> potential for making people cross, so in practice I think as soon as
> someone steps up to the pl
Robert Haas wrote:
> I think this is a good illustration of the problems with
> decision-making in a community environment - given choices "3" and "4"
> most of the votes were somewhere between "3.25" and "3.75". I think,
> in general, that when people weigh in with clear opinions, we're
> pretty
Robert Haas wrote:
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-08/msg01651.php
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-08/msg01983.php
>
> Josh's schedule was subsequently endorsed by Simon Riggs. So by my
> count we now have four votes for a 4-CF schedule and one for a 3-CF
>
I posted a message a little over a week ago discussing the timetable for 8.5:
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-08/msg01576.php
That thread went off on a number of interesting tangents which I found
pretty informative. Probably the most interesting one to me
personally was about
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