RE: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL & the BSD License

2000-07-10 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Robert D. Nelson wrote: > >no they can't ... they can add to the current license, but they can't > >remove it ... > > Okay, well that is what's wanted, correct? Or am I reading the mail wrong? I've contacted the University of California "licensing director" about upgrading

RE: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL & the BSD License

2000-07-10 Thread Robert D. Nelson
>no they can't ... they can add to the current license, but they can't >remove it ... Okay, well that is what's wanted, correct? Or am I reading the mail wrong? Rob Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL & the BSD License

2000-07-10 Thread Philip Warner
At 10:36 10/07/00 -0400, Robert D. Nelson wrote: >>I'll ask, but I think he'll say that the license applies to the source; if >>a commercial fork was made, then they are free to hide the source. But if >>they ever release the source, then it has to go under the BSD again. > >What I was asking was,

RE: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL & the BSD License

2000-07-10 Thread Robert D. Nelson
>I'll ask, but I think he'll say that the license applies to the source; if >a commercial fork was made, then they are free to hide the source. But if >they ever release the source, then it has to go under the BSD again. What I was asking was, if someone forks the code base, aren't they allowed

RE: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL & the BSD License

2000-07-10 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Robert D. Nelson wrote: > >I'll ask, but I think he'll say that the license applies to the source; if > >a commercial fork was made, then they are free to hide the source. But if > >they ever release the source, then it has to go under the BSD again. > > What I was asking wa

RE: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL & the BSD License

2000-07-10 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Philip Warner wrote: > At 08:24 10/07/00 -0400, Robert D. Nelson wrote: > > > >Stupid question time: BSD allows forking of the code base, perhaps to > >proprietary. If going proprietary, I would imagine you could change the > >license. So why can't we have a "license fork"?

RE: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL & the BSD License

2000-07-10 Thread Philip Warner
At 08:24 10/07/00 -0400, Robert D. Nelson wrote: > >Stupid question time: BSD allows forking of the code base, perhaps to >proprietary. If going proprietary, I would imagine you could change the >license. So why can't we have a "license fork"? > I'll ask, but I think he'll say that the license

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL & the BSD License

2000-07-07 Thread Philip Warner
At 09:34 7/07/00 -0300, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > >am investigating this right now ... > >On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Thomas Lockhart wrote: > >> > Now, a) is easily fixable by just extending the date to 2000, but that >> > still only covers "UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA", and none of the actual >> > develop

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL & the BSD License

2000-07-07 Thread Thomas Lockhart
> Now, a) is easily fixable by just extending the date to 2000, but that > still only covers "UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA", and none of the actual > developers ... afaik we can't unilaterally alter the original license, either for dates or for participants. However, we can send along a second licens

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL & the BSD License

2000-07-06 Thread John Daniels
>I'm confused here as to why pppl keep going to the "BSD license is >flawed" argument? The only "flaw" that I can see is that a) the copyright >ended '96 and b) it only covers "UNIVERSITY OF >CALIFORNIA" ... all that is being proposed *at this time* is to add in >coverage for the period *since*

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL & the BSD License

2000-07-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Tom Lane wrote: > The Hermit Hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Tom Lane wrote: > >> The Hermit Hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would like to plug this in early next week, unless someone can see > something major that makes them feel un

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL & the BSD License

2000-07-06 Thread Tom Lane
The Hermit Hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Tom Lane wrote: >> The Hermit Hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I would like to plug this in early next week, unless someone can see something major that makes them feel uncomfortable ... >> >> What are you trying to d

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL & the BSD License

2000-07-06 Thread Samy Elashmawy
>Recently, Landmark/Great Bridge sent us a proposed revision to our >existing license that, from what I can tell, has two paragraphs that >pretty instantly none of the non-US developers felt comfortable with ... >and that I, personally, could never agree to. Sorry to jump in , but which two para

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL & the BSD License

2000-07-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
I'm confused here as to why pppl keep going to the "BSD license is flawed" argument? The only "flaw" that I can see is that a) the copyright ended '96 and b) it only covers "UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA" ... all that is being proposed *at this time* is to add in coverage for the period *since* '96 a

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL & the BSD License

2000-07-06 Thread John Daniels
>On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Tom Lane wrote: > > > The Hermit Hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I would like to plug this in early next week, unless someone can > > > see something major that makes them feel uncomfortable ... > > > > What are you trying to do Marc, foreclose a full discussion? I >

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL & the BSD License

2000-07-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Tom Lane wrote: > The Hermit Hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I would like to plug this in early next week, unless someone can see > > something major that makes them feel uncomfortable ... > > What are you trying to do Marc, foreclose a full discussion? I think > this