Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendations?

2016-11-02 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 4:19 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 11/2/2016 3:01 PM, Steve Crawford wrote: >> >> After much cogitation I eventually went RAID-less. Why? The only option >> for hardware RAID was SAS SSDs and given that they are not built on >> electro-mechanical spinning-rust technology it

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendations?

2016-11-02 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/2/2016 3:01 PM, Steve Crawford wrote: After much cogitation I eventually went RAID-less. Why? The only option for hardware RAID was SAS SSDs and given that they are not built on electro-mechanical spinning-rust technology it seemed like the RAID card was just another point of solid-state

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendations?

2016-11-02 Thread Steve Crawford
After much cogitation I eventually went RAID-less. Why? The only option for hardware RAID was SAS SSDs and given that they are not built on electro-mechanical spinning-rust technology it seemed like the RAID card was just another point of solid-state failure. I combined that with the fact that the

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendations?

2016-11-02 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > On 11/02/2016 10:03 AM, Steve Atkins wrote: >> >> I'm looking for generic advice on hardware to use for "mid-sized" >> postgresql servers, $5k or a bit more. >> >> There are several good documents from the 9.0 era, but hardware has moved >>

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendations?

2016-11-02 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On 11/02/2016 10:03 AM, Steve Atkins wrote: I'm looking for generic advice on hardware to use for "mid-sized" postgresql servers, $5k or a bit more. There are several good documents from the 9.0 era, but hardware has moved on since then, particularly with changes in SSD pricing. Has anyone se

[GENERAL] Hardware recommendations?

2016-11-02 Thread Steve Atkins
I'm looking for generic advice on hardware to use for "mid-sized" postgresql servers, $5k or a bit more. There are several good documents from the 9.0 era, but hardware has moved on since then, particularly with changes in SSD pricing. Has anyone seen a more recent discussion of what someone mi

[GENERAL] Hardware question

2015-06-30 Thread Leonard Boyce
Hoping to tap into the hive mind here. I'm looking to upgrade drives on some of our db servers and am hoping someone has run/tested a similar setup in the past and can share their wisdom. I have a pair of Dell R910s with H700 controllers and am looking to replace the existing drives with SSDs. Ri

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware requirements for a PostGIS server

2015-02-13 Thread Mathieu Basille
Thanks to Gavin and Alban for additional considerations, all very useful. As for Linux, I have to admit that I am biased too! I use it heavily, which is the reason I would incline for its use. But after all, since I'm not going to administrate the server, the best choice will probably be IT cho

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware requirements for a PostGIS server

2015-02-12 Thread Alban Hertroys
On 12 February 2015 at 00:38, Mathieu Basille wrote: > Platform > > > Linux is the platform of choice: > * Easier administration (install/configuration/upgrade), which is also true > for addons/dependencies (starting with PostGIS, but also GEOS, GDAL, PL/R); > * Better performance [4]; >

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware requirements for a PostGIS server

2015-02-11 Thread Gavin Flower
On 12/02/15 12:38, Mathieu Basille wrote: [...] [1] Start of the thread here: http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/postgis-users/2015-February/040120.html [...] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/postgis-users/2015-February/040134.html [...] * About usage being mostly read: this will be true for mos

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware requirements for a PostGIS server

2015-02-11 Thread Gavin Flower
On 12/02/15 12:38, Mathieu Basille wrote: Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread, either on the PostGIS [1] or the PostgreSQL [2] mailing lists. I will try to summarize everything in this message, which I will actually post on both lists to give an update to everyone. I hope it can b

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware requirements for a PostGIS server

2015-02-11 Thread Mathieu Basille
Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread, either on the PostGIS [1] or the PostgreSQL [2] mailing lists. I will try to summarize everything in this message, which I will actually post on both lists to give an update to everyone. I hope it can be useful for other people interested. Pleas

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware requirements for a PostGIS server

2015-02-10 Thread Paul Jungwirth
I am currently planning to set up a PostgreSQL + PostGIS instance for my lab. Turns out I believe this would be useful for the whole center, so that I'm now considering setting up the server for everyone—if interest is shared of course. At the moment, I am however struggling with what would be req

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware requirements for a PostGIS server

2015-02-10 Thread Gavin Flower
On 11/02/15 13:52, Mathieu Basille wrote: Dear PostgreSQL users, I am posting here a question that I initially asked on the PostGIS list [1], where I was advised to try here too (I will keep both lists updated about the developments on this issue). I am currently planning to set up a Postgre

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware requirements for a PostGIS server

2015-02-10 Thread Bill Moran
Responses in-line: On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:52:41 -0500 Mathieu Basille wrote: > > I am posting here a question that I initially asked on the PostGIS list > [1], where I was advised to try here too (I will keep both lists updated > about the developments on this issue). > > I am currently plan

[GENERAL] Hardware requirements for a PostGIS server

2015-02-10 Thread Mathieu Basille
Dear PostgreSQL users, I am posting here a question that I initially asked on the PostGIS list [1], where I was advised to try here too (I will keep both lists updated about the developments on this issue). I am currently planning to set up a PostgreSQL + PostGIS instance for my lab. Turns o

[GENERAL] Hardware performance

2014-02-27 Thread CS DBA
Hi All; We're talking with a HW / Data Center company about scaling up our DB servers... Below are some questions they asked relaed to moving to SSD's or maybe a Fusion IO drive. Anyone have any thoughts, specifically on the queue depth question? Thanks in advance... /So our question I thi

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
Greg Smith wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Greg Smith wrote: > > > >> Given what you've said about your budget here, I suspect that you're > >> heading toward either 3ware or LSI and all SATA drives. I wouldn't > >> expect that big of a performance difference between the two with only 8 >

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-16 Thread Greg Smith
A B wrote: Don't put SAS drives on a 3ware controller. They say that works now, but they haven't really gotten it right yet--their controllers are still only good with SATA drives. How bad will it be with SAS drives? Is there so little performance gain witn 3ware+SAS? The concern isn

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-16 Thread Greg Smith
Bruce Momjian wrote: Greg Smith wrote: Given what you've said about your budget here, I suspect that you're heading toward either 3ware or LSI and all SATA drives. I wouldn't expect that big of a performance difference between the two with only 8 drives on there. If you had 24, the 3ware

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-16 Thread Greg Smith
John R Pierce wrote: Vick Khera wrote: Interesting... same advice goes for Adaptec + FreeBSD. I guess Adaptec + !Windows == bad? i've never liked adaptec, windows or not. Yeah, I was trying to be as nice as possible since I don't run Windows anymore, and for all I know their cards are f

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-15 Thread John R Pierce
Vick Khera wrote: Interesting... same advice goes for Adaptec + FreeBSD. I guess Adaptec + !Windows == bad? i've never liked adaptec, windows or not. bunches of their too-popular SCSI cards even way back in the old days of 10-20MB/sec SCSI had sketchy electrical specs on the SCSI bus an

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-15 Thread Vick Khera
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Greg Smith wrote: > Don't put an Adaptec card into a Linux system.  They don't take that OS > nearly as seriously as your other choices here. > Interesting... same advice goes for Adaptec + FreeBSD. I guess Adaptec + !Windows == bad? -- Sent via pgsql-general m

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
Greg Smith wrote: > Given what you've said about your budget here, I suspect that you're > heading toward either 3ware or LSI and all SATA drives. I wouldn't > expect that big of a performance difference between the two with only 8 > drives on there. If you had 24, the 3ware controller would l

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-15 Thread A B
> Don't put SAS drives on a 3ware controller.  They say that works now, but > they haven't really gotten it right yet--their controllers are still only > good with SATA drives. How bad will it be with SAS drives? Is there so little performance gain witn 3ware+SAS? Scott Marlowe stated in earlier

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-15 Thread Greg Smith
A B wrote: 3Ware SAS 9690SA-8i 512 MB BBU Adaptec SAS Raid 5805 256 MB BBU LSI MegaRaid SAS 8708 128 MB BBU When it comes to choosing the acctual discs I guess this would be appropriate to use: "other data": Barracda ES.2 1000 GB (SATA) to get a a good GB/$ ratio. OS/xlog : Barracuda ES.2 500

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-14 Thread Vick Khera
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 3:34 AM, A B wrote: > 3Ware SAS 9690SA-8i 512 MB BBU > Adaptec SAS Raid 5805  256 MB BBU > LSI MegaRaid SAS 8708 128 MB BBU > When faced with the choice of Adaptec vs. anything else, I choose anything else. When faced with the choice of LSI vs anything else, I look really

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-13 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:34 AM, A B wrote: > Hello. > > It's time to get new hardware for a server that will run both > PostgreSQL and Apache. > The workload will be similar to that of  your standard "PHP forum" > (most selects and logging of stuff that has been read) > > The modell I'm looking a

[GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-13 Thread A B
Hello. It's time to get new hardware for a server that will run both PostgreSQL and Apache. The workload will be similar to that of your standard "PHP forum" (most selects and logging of stuff that has been read) The modell I'm looking at right now is 2x Xeon E5520 2,26 GHz 8 MB (8 cores in tot

Re: [GENERAL] hardware information

2009-09-16 Thread Ow Mun Heng
-Original Message- From: pgsql-general-ow...@postgresql.org [mailto:pgsql-general- > "htop" is really nice too.    http://htop.sourceforge.net/ > (disclaimer - I did not write it) I like atop better -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to

Re: [GENERAL] hardware information

2009-09-15 Thread dennis jenkins
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Scott Marlowe wrote: > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:49 PM, John R Pierce wrote: >> std pik wrote: >>> >>> Hello all.. >>> I'm using PostgreSQL 8.3.. >>> How can I get information about the hardware utilization: >>>       - CPU usage. >>>       - Disk space. >>>      

Re: [GENERAL] hardware information

2009-09-15 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:10 PM, dennis jenkins wrote: > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Scott Marlowe > wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:49 PM, John R Pierce wrote: >>> std pik wrote: Hello all.. I'm using PostgreSQL 8.3.. How can I get information about the hardware ut

Re: [GENERAL] hardware information

2009-09-15 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:49 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > std pik wrote: >> >> Hello all.. >> I'm using PostgreSQL 8.3.. >> How can I get information about the hardware utilization: >>       - CPU usage. >>       - Disk space. >>       - Memory allocation. >> > > > what operating system are you on?

Re: [GENERAL] hardware information

2009-09-15 Thread John R Pierce
std pik wrote: Hello all.. I'm using PostgreSQL 8.3.. How can I get information about the hardware utilization: - CPU usage. - Disk space. - Memory allocation. what operating system are you on? If its Linux or some flavor of Unix, I'd use a combination of ps(1), df(1

[GENERAL] hardware information

2009-09-15 Thread std pik
Hello all.. I'm using PostgreSQL 8.3.. How can I get information about the hardware utilization: - CPU usage. - Disk space. - Memory allocation. thank you. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.p

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation: which is best

2007-09-11 Thread Greg Smith
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Phoenix Kiula wrote: Just to confirm -- why do you say "[Opteron] will have 2X as many disks"? In the dual-Opteron setup above I have 2 hard disks with RAID1, whereas in the single-Xeon quad-core setup I have 4 disks with RAID 10. What I was trying to suggest was that the

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation: which is best

2007-09-11 Thread Andrej Ricnik-Bay
On 9/12/07, Phoenix Kiula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just to confirm -- why do you say "[Opteron] will have 2X as many > disks"? In the dual-Opteron setup above I have 2 hard disks with > RAID1, whereas in the single-Xeon quad-core setup I have 4 disks with > RAID 10. He didn't say that. Read hi

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation: which is best

2007-09-11 Thread Phoenix Kiula
On 12/09/2007, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Phoenix Kiula wrote: > > > Scenario 1, SATAII: > > - Server: Asus RS120-E4/PA4 Dedicated Server > > - CPU: Single -- Intel Quad Core Xeon Processor x3210 Processor 2.13Ghz > > - RAM: 4Gb DDR2 Memory 667Mhz > > - Hard disk:

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation: which is best

2007-09-11 Thread Greg Smith
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Phoenix Kiula wrote: Scenario 1, SATAII: - Server: Asus RS120-E4/PA4 Dedicated Server - CPU: Single -- Intel Quad Core Xeon Processor x3210 Processor 2.13Ghz - RAM: 4Gb DDR2 Memory 667Mhz - Hard disk: 4 x Seagate ES SATAII HardDrive 7200RPM 250Gb (Total 500Gb) - Raid 10: 3Wa

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation: which is best

2007-09-11 Thread Scott Marlowe
On 9/11/07, Phoenix Kiula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Greg. > Scenario 1, SATAII: > > - Server: Asus RS120-E4/PA4 Dedicated Server > - CPU: Single -- Intel Quad Core Xeon Processor x3210 Processor 2.13Ghz > - RAM: 4Gb DDR2 Memory 667Mhz > - Hard disk: 4 x Seagate ES SATAII HardDrive 7200RPM

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation: which is best

2007-09-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/11/07 12:02, Phoenix Kiula wrote: > On 12/09/2007, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> How (on average) large are the records you need to insert, and how >> evenly spread across the 24 hour day do the inserts occur? > > > There will be ar

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation: which is best

2007-09-11 Thread Phoenix Kiula
On 12/09/2007, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How (on average) large are the records you need to insert, and how > evenly spread across the 24 hour day do the inserts occur? There will be around 15,000 inserts in a day. Each insert will have several TEXT columns, so it is difficult to p

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation: which is best

2007-09-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/11/07 11:26, Phoenix Kiula wrote: > Thanks Greg. > > >> You're not going to get a particularly useful answer here without giving >> some specifics about the two disk controllers you're comparing, how much >> cache they have, and whether they in

Re: [SPAM] Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation: which is best

2007-09-11 Thread Franz . Rasper
>Scenario 1, SATAII: > >- Server: Asus RS120-E4/PA4 Dedicated Server >- CPU: Single -- Intel Quad Core Xeon Processor x3210 Processor 2.13Ghz >- RAM: 4Gb DDR2 Memory 667Mhz >- Hard disk: 4 x Seagate ES SATAII HardDrive 7200RPM 250Gb (Total 500Gb) >- Raid 10: 3Ware Raid 9650SE: http://www.acnc.com/0

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation: which is best

2007-09-11 Thread Phoenix Kiula
Thanks Greg. > You're not going to get a particularly useful answer here without giving > some specifics about the two disk controllers you're comparing, how much > cache they have, and whether they include a battery backup. > Scenario 1, SATAII: - Server: Asus RS120-E4/PA4 Dedicated Server -

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation: which is best

2007-09-11 Thread Franz . Rasper
>The point people are trying to make to you is that the differences between >RAID controllers can be as big as that between RAID architectures in cases >like yours. Which controller you're using and how the cache is setup can >have a larger impact on INSERT performance than how many/what type o

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation: which is best

2007-09-11 Thread Greg Smith
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Phoenix Kiula wrote: I'll have a raid controller in both scenarios, but which RAID should be better: RAID1 or RAID10? The point people are trying to make to you is that the differences between RAID controllers can be as big as that between RAID architectures in cases lik

Re: [SPAM] Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation: which is best

2007-09-11 Thread Franz . Rasper
>This one will be a hugely INSERT thing, very low on UPDATEs. The >INSERTS will have many TEXT fields as they are free form data. So the >database will grow very fast. Size will grow pretty fast too. >> You should use a hardware raid controller with battery backup write cache >> (write cache shoul

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation: which is best

2007-09-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/11/07 07:55, Phoenix Kiula wrote: > On 11/09/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It depends what you want to do with your database. >> >> Do you have many reads (select) or a lot of writes (update,insert) ? > > > This one will

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation: which is best

2007-09-11 Thread Phoenix Kiula
On 11/09/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It depends what you want to do with your database. > > Do you have many reads (select) or a lot of writes (update,insert) ? This one will be a hugely INSERT thing, very low on UPDATEs. The INSERTS will have many TEXT fields as they are

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation: which is best

2007-09-11 Thread Franz . Rasper
have ? How big is your database, tables ... ? Greetings, -Franz -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Phoenix Kiula Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2007 13:49 An: Postgres General Betreff: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation: which

[GENERAL] Hardware recommendation: which is best

2007-09-11 Thread Phoenix Kiula
Hello We're trying to look for the most optimal config for a heavy duty production server, and the following two are falling in the same price range from our supplier: Option 1: 2 x 300GB SCSI (10k rpm) with SAS and RAID 1 Option 2: 4 x 300GB SATA2 (7200 rpm, server grade) with RAID 10 I am not

Re: [GENERAL] hardware question - LSI MegaRaid 8480e

2007-03-01 Thread Merlin Moncure
On 3/1/07, Alan Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone have anything specifically good or bad to say about the LSI MegaRaid 8480e, in particular RAID-10 performance, and performance and stability under Linux or any problems with the battery-backed cache option? I'm building a new databas

[GENERAL] hardware question - LSI MegaRaid 8480e

2007-03-01 Thread Alan Hodgson
Does anyone have anything specifically good or bad to say about the LSI MegaRaid 8480e, in particular RAID-10 performance, and performance and stability under Linux or any problems with the battery-backed cache option? I'm building a new database server and planning to hook one of these up to a

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware

2007-02-06 Thread Ben
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Walter Vaughan wrote: CPUs ? The more CPUs the better, however if your database does not use many complex functions your money is best spent on a better disk subsystem. Also, avoid Intel Xeon processors with PostgreSQL as there is a problem with the context switching in t

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware

2007-02-06 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 10:33, Lars Heidieker wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On 6 Feb 2007, at 15:59, Walter Vaughan wrote: > > > I need to purchase a new server to put posgresql on that will be > > acting as the DBMS server for Apache ofBiz soon. While googling

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware

2007-02-06 Thread Lars Heidieker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6 Feb 2007, at 15:59, Walter Vaughan wrote: I need to purchase a new server to put posgresql on that will be acting as the DBMS server for Apache ofBiz soon. While googling around for performance tweaks I saw this at http://revsys.com/ writi

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware

2007-02-06 Thread Guido Neitzer
On 06.02.2007, at 08:59, Walter Vaughan wrote: Is this still true in regards to Xeon's? I was looking at a server with Quad Core Xeon 2 5335 @ 2.0GHz. No, it's not true anymore. See http://tweakers.net/reviews/657/1 for an interesting comparison. cug ---(end of bro

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware

2007-02-06 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:59:21AM -0500, Walter Vaughan wrote: > > Is this still true in regards to Xeon's? I was looking at a server with > Quad Core Xeon 2 5335 @ 2.0GHz. Multi-core Xeons are not as affected, and are somewhat different "under the hood". So no, you're probably ok there. > A

[GENERAL] Hardware

2007-02-06 Thread Walter Vaughan
I need to purchase a new server to put posgresql on that will be acting as the DBMS server for Apache ofBiz soon. While googling around for performance tweaks I saw this at http://revsys.com/writings/postgresql-performance.html CPUs — The more CPUs the better, however if your database does not

Re: [GENERAL] hardware failure - data recovery

2006-10-23 Thread Rick Gigger
Rick Gigger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: To make a long story short lets just say that I had a bit of a hardware failure recently. If I got an error like this when trying to dump a db from the mangled data directory is it safe to say it's totally hosed or is there some chance of recovery? Why

Re: [GENERAL] hardware failure - data recovery

2006-10-23 Thread Rick Gigger
I could have my developer do this if it would be useful to someone else. But in general I think my time would be much better served fixing my backup situation and monitoring them so that this CAN'T happen again. It shouldn't have happened this time. On Oct 19, 2006, at 8:35 AM, Ray Stell

Re: [GENERAL] hardware failure - data recovery

2006-10-20 Thread Jerry Sievers
Rick Gigger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To make a long story short lets just say that I had a bit of a > hardware failure recently. > > If I got an error like this when trying to dump a db from the mangled > data directory is it safe to say it's totally hosed or is there some > chance of recove

Re: [GENERAL] hardware failure - data recovery

2006-10-19 Thread Ray Stell
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:14:46 -0600, Rick Gigger wrote: > I think we've got it figure out though. We were able to patch up the > db enough to extract the data with some help from google and old postings > from Tom. It would be really great if you put down the specifics of what you googled/old post

Re: [GENERAL] hardware failure - data recovery

2006-10-19 Thread Rick Gigger
Rick Gigger wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/19/06 00:46, Rick Gigger wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 10/18/06 23:52, Rick Gigger wrote: Rick Gigger wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 10/18/06 19:57, Rick Gigger wrote: [snip] Not much that is useful.

Re: [GENERAL] hardware failure - data recovery

2006-10-18 Thread Rick Gigger
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/19/06 00:46, Rick Gigger wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 10/18/06 23:52, Rick Gigger wrote: Rick Gigger wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 10/18/06 19:57, Rick Gigger wrote: [snip] Not much that is useful. I think this is a li

Re: [GENERAL] hardware failure - data recovery

2006-10-18 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/19/06 00:46, Rick Gigger wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> On 10/18/06 23:52, Rick Gigger wrote: >>> Rick Gigger wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 10/18/06 19:57, Rick Gigger wrote: [snip] > Not much that is useful. I think this is a

Re: [GENERAL] hardware failure - data recovery

2006-10-18 Thread Rick Gigger
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/18/06 23:52, Rick Gigger wrote: Rick Gigger wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/18/06 19:57, Rick Gigger wrote: To make a long story short lets just say that I had a bit of a har

Re: [GENERAL] hardware failure - data recovery

2006-10-18 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/18/06 23:52, Rick Gigger wrote: > Rick Gigger wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 10/18/06 19:57, Rick Gigger wrote: To make a long story short lets just say that I had a bit of a har

Re: [GENERAL] hardware failure - data recovery

2006-10-18 Thread Rick Gigger
Rick Gigger wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/18/06 19:57, Rick Gigger wrote: To make a long story short lets just say that I had a bit of a hardware failure recently. If I got an error like this when trying to dump a db from the mangled data direct

Re: [GENERAL] hardware failure - data recovery

2006-10-18 Thread Rick Gigger
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/18/06 19:57, Rick Gigger wrote: To make a long story short lets just say that I had a bit of a hardware failure recently. If I got an error like this when trying to dump a db from the mangled data directory is it safe to sa

Re: [GENERAL] hardware failure - data recovery

2006-10-18 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/18/06 19:57, Rick Gigger wrote: > To make a long story short lets just say that I had a bit of a hardware > failure recently. > > If I got an error like this when trying to dump a db from the mangled > data directory is it safe to say it's total

[GENERAL] hardware failure - data recovery

2006-10-18 Thread Rick Gigger
To make a long story short lets just say that I had a bit of a hardware failure recently. If I got an error like this when trying to dump a db from the mangled data directory is it safe to say it's totally hosed or is there some chance of recovery? pg_dump: ERROR: could not open relation

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware related question: 3ware 9500S

2006-04-15 Thread Alex Turner
A... good point.Why oh why does tyan have two boards with the same prefix ;)!!!AlexOn 4/15/06, Guy Rouillier < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Alex Turner wrote:> Raid 5 on the 9550SX is supposed to be significantly better than the > 9500 series.>> I would be carefull of benchmarks listed out there.  

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware related question: 3ware 9500S

2006-04-15 Thread Alex Turner
I have the time to do it, but not the $$s ;)AlexOn 4/15/06, Francisco Reyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:Alex Turner writes:> Suggests that the 9550SX is at least competitive with the others. Thanks for the links.> I know I like the 3ware/AMCC cards because of their very good RAID 10> performance.Rai

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware related question: 3ware 9500S

2006-04-15 Thread Francisco Reyes
Alex Turner writes: Suggests that the 9550SX is at least competitive with the others. Thanks for the links. I know I like the 3ware/AMCC cards because of their very good RAID 10 performance. Raid 10 is what I used on my last server and likely what I will use on the next. I wish we coul

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware related question: 3ware 9500S

2006-04-15 Thread Guy Rouillier
Alex Turner wrote: > Raid 5 on the 9550SX is supposed to be significantly better than the > 9500 series. > > I would be carefull of benchmarks listed out there. For instance, > whilst looking for supporting material, I came cross this gem: > http://www.gamepc.com/labs/print_content.asp?id=9550s

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware related question: 3ware 9500S

2006-04-15 Thread Alex Turner
Raid 5 on the 9550SX is supposed to be significantly better than the 9500 series.I would be carefull of benchmarks listed out there.  For instance, whilst looking for supporting material, I came cross this gem: http://www.gamepc.com/labs/print_content.asp?id=9550sx4lp&cookie%5Ftest=1 They claim th

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware related question: 3ware 9500S

2006-04-15 Thread Francisco Reyes
Merlin Moncure writes: there are reasons to go with raid 5 or other raids. where I work we often do 14 drive raid 6 plus 1 hot swap on a 15 drive tray. Raid 5 is different from raid 6 To say that there are times it's ok to use RAID 5 and then say you use raid 6... well... doesn't really s

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware related question: 3ware 9500S

2006-04-15 Thread Francisco Reyes
Merlin Moncure writes: escalade is a fairly full featured raid controller for the price. consider it the ford taurus of raid controllers, it's functional and practical but not sexy. Their S line is not native sata but operates over a pata->sata bridge. Stay away from raid 5. Do you know if

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware related question: 3ware 9500S

2006-04-12 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 13:53, Ted Byers wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Marlowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > There have been NUMEROUS discussions of RAID-5 versus RAID 1+0 in the > > perform group in the last year or two. Short version: > > > Interesting. SNIP > This questio

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware related question: 3ware 9500S

2006-04-12 Thread Merlin Moncure
On 4/12/06, Ted Byers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Merlin Moncure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Janning Vygen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: > > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 12:

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware related question: 3ware 9500S

2006-04-12 Thread Geoffrey
Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 02:53:01PM -0400, Ted Byers wrote: I take it that "RAID 1+0" refers to a combination of Raid 1 and RAID 0. What about RAID 10? I am curious because RAID 10 has come out since the last time I took a look at RAID technology. I am not sure wh

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware related question: 3ware 9500S

2006-04-12 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 02:53:01PM -0400, Ted Byers wrote: > I take it that "RAID 1+0" refers to a combination of Raid 1 and RAID 0. > What about RAID 10? I am curious because RAID 10 has come out since the > last time I took a look at RAID technology. I am not sure what it actually > does dif

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware related question: 3ware 9500S

2006-04-12 Thread Ted Byers
- Original Message - From: "Scott Marlowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ted Byers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Merlin Moncure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Janning Vygen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "pgsql general" Sent: Wednesda

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware related question: 3ware 9500S

2006-04-12 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 13:10, Ted Byers wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Merlin Moncure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Janning Vygen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: > > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 12:31 PM >

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware related question: 3ware 9500S

2006-04-12 Thread Ted Byers
- Original Message - From: "Merlin Moncure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Janning Vygen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Hardware related question: 3ware 9500S [snip] > - I want to know if 3ware

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware related question: 3ware 9500S

2006-04-12 Thread Janning Vygen
Thanks for your fast reply. Am Mittwoch, 12. April 2006 18:31 schrieb Merlin Moncure: > On 4/12/06, Janning Vygen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > disk 1: OS, tablespace > > disk 2: indices, WAL, Logfiles > > - Does my partitioning make sense? > > with raid 10 all four drives will appear as

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware related question: 3ware 9500S

2006-04-12 Thread Merlin Moncure
On 4/12/06, Janning Vygen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > disk 1: OS, tablespace > disk 2: indices, WAL, Logfiles > - Does my partitioning make sense? with raid 10 all four drives will appear as a single physical device shared by all. I'm personally not a big fan of logical partitioning of a s

[GENERAL] Hardware related question: 3ware 9500S

2006-04-12 Thread Janning Vygen
Hi, i don't know much about hard disks and raid controllers but often there is some discussion about which raid controller rocks and which sucks. my hosting company offers me a raid 10 with 4 serial-ata disks. They will use a "3ware 4-Port-RAID-Controller 9500S" More than 4 disks are not possi

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation for PostgreSQL on Windows?

2006-01-06 Thread Tony Caduto
Bjørn T Johansen wrote: I an planning to make a small Windows application and need a nice database I am used to using PostgreSQL under Linux and I am thinking about using this under Windows but how much resources does it use under Windows? The server will be running on the workstation alon

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation for PostgreSQL on Windows?

2006-01-06 Thread Bjørn T Johansen
Qingqing Zhou wrote: > ""Bjørn T Johansen"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >> I an planning to make a small Windows application and need a nice >> database I am used to using PostgreSQL >> under Linux and I am thinking about using this under Windows but how much >> resources does it use under Wind

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware recommendation for PostgreSQL on Windows?

2006-01-05 Thread Qingqing Zhou
""Bj?rn T Johansen"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >I an planning to make a small Windows application and need a nice >database I am used to using PostgreSQL > under Linux and I am thinking about using this under Windows but how much > resources does it use under Windows? > The server will be ru

[GENERAL] Hardware recommendation for PostgreSQL on Windows?

2006-01-05 Thread Bjørn T Johansen
I an planning to make a small Windows application and need a nice database I am used to using PostgreSQL under Linux and I am thinking about using this under Windows but how much resources does it use under Windows? The server will be running on the workstation along with the Windows applica

[GENERAL] Hardware requirements

2005-09-30 Thread Rafael Montoya
Hello everybody, i really need to know hardware requirements for installing PostgreSQL 8.0.3. I'm in a database migration project and it is important to work with the appropiate hardware. DB must work in windows. There are 50 tables aprox and data size is near 6 GB. Thank for your answers. Rafa

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware requirements

2005-09-29 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 09:20:00AM +0200, Rafael Montoya wrote: > Ok, there are about 15 concurrent clients inserting and updating data, and > 20 concurrent clients only consulting. > I dont need all data in ram, of course, hehe, but i really have no idea > what's the minimum of ram for having f

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware requirements

2005-09-29 Thread A. Kretschmer
am 29.09.2005, um 9:20:00 +0200 mailte Rafael Montoya folgendes: > Ok, there are about 15 concurrent clients inserting and updating data, and > 20 concurrent clients only consulting. > I dont need all data in ram, of course, hehe, but i really have no idea > what's the minimum of ram for havin

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware requirements

2005-09-29 Thread Rafael Montoya
afael Montoya From: Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rafael Montoya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Hardware requirements Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:30:06 -0700 Unless you need all that data in ram (and you probably don't), then

Re: [GENERAL] Hardware requirements

2005-09-28 Thread Ben
Unless you need all that data in ram (and you probably don't), then any machine should be capable. The real questions are, how many concurrent clients? How static is the data? What is your query complexity? On Sep 28, 2005, at 11:08 PM, Rafael Montoya wrote: Hello everybody, i really need

[GENERAL] Hardware requirements

2005-09-28 Thread Rafael Montoya
Hello everybody, i really need to know hardware requirements for installing PostgreSQL 8.0.3. I'm in a database migration project and it is important to work with the appropiate hardware. DB must work in windows. There are 50 tables aprox and data size is near 6 GB. Thank for your answers. Rafa

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