Re: [OAUTH-WG] New draft process / editor role

2012-06-08 Thread David Recordon
Yes, it would be helpful (and I think reasonable) to have an explanation of why the process was changed so wildly from the past twenty-six drafts. --David On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Franklin Tse wrote: > I think the chairs should clarify and explain, via this mailing list, > > 1. Whether t

Re: [OAUTH-WG] New draft process / editor role

2012-06-08 Thread Franklin Tse
I think the chairs should clarify and explain, via this mailing list, 1. Whether they have authorized Mike Jones and Dick Hardt to author and publish the draft 2a. If they have given the authorization, why they needed to do so and why the editor was not notified; 2b. Otherwise, whether the cur

Re: [OAUTH-WG] New draft process / editor role

2012-06-08 Thread William Mills
+1 > > From: Anthony Nadalin >To: Eran Hammer ; "oauth@ietf.org WG (oauth@ietf.org)" > >Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 7:18 PM >Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] New draft process / editor role > > > >Why rant here, talk to the chairs or AD > >Sent from my Windows Phone >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] New draft process / editor role

2012-06-08 Thread Anthony Nadalin
Why rant here, talk to the chairs or AD Sent from my Windows Phone From: Eran Hammer Sent: 6/8/2012 6:58 PM To: oauth@ietf.org WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: [OAUTH-WG] New draft process / editor role Today, a new draft of the OAuth 2.0 specification was published.

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authorization Request via back channel / direct communication?

2012-06-08 Thread John Bradley
To some extent it goes to the question of who do you trust. Most of OAuth is predicated on not sharing the users credential with the client, because clients are not trusted. Your situation may be different if you control the device. If you are using multi factor authentication then using an emb

[OAUTH-WG] New draft process / editor role

2012-06-08 Thread Eran Hammer
Today, a new draft of the OAuth 2.0 specification was published. * I had nothing to do with this draft. I did not edit or authored it. I didn't know it was being published. * The draft was authored by Mike Jones and published by Dick Hardt. * Neither one is an editor or an active author of the do

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Error Encoding: Conclusion

2012-06-08 Thread Eran Hammer
The new text published today for section 7.2 isn't acceptable. It seems (the lanaguage is unclear when it comes to its actual requirements) to indicate that any protocol used for OAuth token authentication using an error parameter named "error" must use the new registry. Any authentication metho

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Core -27 Published

2012-06-08 Thread Richer, Justin P.
I saw the new draft and assumed that Eran had published it, as he has been doing so all along. If this is not the case, I also find this very surprising, even though with three authors on the spec I can see how it can happen from a mechanical level. But even so, shouldn't all three authors at le

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authorization Request via back channel / direct communication?

2012-06-08 Thread Richer, Justin P.
You're right in that OAuth is optimized for the confidential clients case -- specifically, a client being a web server talking to another web server. But what you've just described, in a nutshell, is the assertion grant type: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-assertions-03 Which has b

[OAUTH-WG] Authorization Request via back channel / direct communication?

2012-06-08 Thread Lewis Adam-CAL022
Hi, I have a historical question around front channel / back channel (direct) communications and Authorization Requests. Both the code-flow and implicit-flow utilize a front channel communication through the UA. This makes sense for the delegated credentials case (e.g. shutterfly accessing ph

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Cache-Control headers for Bearer URI Query Parameter method

2012-06-08 Thread Mike Jones
Hi Amos, The OAuth Bearer specification now includes the Cache-Control language we'd discussed. See the fifth paragraph of http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-20#section-2.3. Thanks again,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Core -27 Published

2012-06-08 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
I must say that I found it surprising, too. An explanation beforehand from the chairs would have helped to prevent confusion. On 6/8/12 3:28 PM, Eran Hammer wrote: > What the hell just happened? Even if this is allowed under IETF rules, > it is clearly against IETF spirit. There is now a published

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Core -27 Published

2012-06-08 Thread Eran Hammer
What the hell just happened? Even if this is allowed under IETF rules, it is clearly against IETF spirit. There is now a published draft with my name as sole editor and text I didn't put in there. No one even suggested this is something the chairs might do. After all the work I put into this, t

[OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.0 Bearer Token Specification Draft -20

2012-06-08 Thread Mike Jones
Draft 20 of the OAuth 2.0 Bearer Token Specification has been published. I believe that this draft addresses all DISCUSS issues and comments raised for this specification in IESG review. No normative changes were made, other than specifying the use of Cache-Control options when using the URI Q

[OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-20.txt

2012-06-08 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Web Authorization Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Framework: Bearer Token Usage Author(s) : Michael B. Jones

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Core -27 Published

2012-06-08 Thread Mike Jones
Apologies, Dick HARDT! :-) From: Dick Hardt [mailto:dick.ha...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 11:09 AM To: Mike Jones Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Core -27 Published On Jun 8, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Mike Jones wrote: The chairs approved publication of OAuth Core draft -

[OAUTH-WG] Discussion needed on username and password ABNF definitions

2012-06-08 Thread Mike Jones
Hi Julian, The current draft restricts username and password to ASCII was because RFC 2616 says this about the TEXT fields used by HTTP Basic in RFC 2617: "Words of *TEXT MAY contain characters from character sets other than ISO-8859-1 [22] only when encoded according to the rules of RF

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Core -27 Published

2012-06-08 Thread Dick Hardt
On Jun 8, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Mike Jones wrote: > The chairs approved publication of OAuth Core draft -27 today. This version > is based upon the proposed changes that I’d circulated to the working group. > Changes are: > ·Adds character set restrictions for error, error_description, a

[OAUTH-WG] OAuth Core -27 Published

2012-06-08 Thread Mike Jones
The chairs approved publication of OAuth Core draft -27 today. This version is based upon the proposed changes that I'd circulated to the working group. Changes are: *Adds character set restrictions for error, error_description, and error_uri parameters consistent with the OAuth Beare

[OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-27.txt

2012-06-08 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Web Authorization Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Framework Author(s) : Eran Hammer

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Implicit vs. Code flow for Native clients

2012-06-08 Thread John Bradley
The implicit flow doesn't allow for refresh tokens. The refresh token mechanism allows for the AS to revoke access to the RS when a relatively short lived access_token expires. Some people seem to prefer having the RS make a callback to the AS on each access, and not use refresh tokens. There

[OAUTH-WG] Looking for samples

2012-06-08 Thread José Pavelek
Hi all, I hope this mailing list can be used for this… I’m new in oAuth, I’m a developer trying to use oAuth 2.0 to access google calendar from web access, I use asp.net with VB, my customer want to migrate some private calendar to google calendar, the application is in an intranet, and

[OAUTH-WG] Implicit vs. Code flow for Native clients

2012-06-08 Thread Lewis Adam-CAL022
Hi all, I'm looking for a better understanding of why the code flow is recommended as the preferred OAuth flow, even when used for native (public) clients. I totally get why it is preferred for confidential clients, as explained in section 1.3.1. of the version 26 of the draft. The first reaso

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft OAuth Core spec changes updating proposed ABNF

2012-06-08 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-06-08 09:56, Mike Jones wrote: The attached proposed edits to the Core spec update the ABNF to remove the character set restrictions that working group participants had objected to, and to define common syntax elements, where appropriate. After working group review, I believe that these c