20kW is not an insignificant power requirement, I’m not surprised your
requirement is pricy.
From: NANOG On Behalf Of harbor235
Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2024 7:46 am
To: NANOG list
Subject: COLO space in EU
Hi all,
Looking for colo space in Amsterdam, is it common to have to
Hi all,
Looking for colo space in Amsterdam, is it common to have to pay for phase3
power busbar and busbar, power supply, and tap off? Total costs for adding
3 phase plus testing etc . 136.000 Euros for NRCs and the following MRC:
The Service Fee for a 20kW deployment would be €350/kW/month
So they have a charge just to have the capacity present of 7000
euros/month and then .278 euros per KWh on top of that?
I wish I could get away with charging that.
Aaron
-- Original Message --
From "harbor235"
To "NANOG list"
Date 12/11/2024 12:45:52 PM
Subject COLO space in EU
I apologize for using NANOG for this, but I need to get some traction
on a telephone outage affecting a large number of homes in a small
town that Centurylink seems to be unaware of. The affected customers
have had no phone service for days and none of them know what's going
on. Centurylink custome
Is there a reason why AMS (presumably the IXs)?
You may find other NL DCs cheaper but still close enough to AMS for your needs.
For example, in Rotterdam there has been more investment in the port's
industrial grid infra, which may get you a cheaper rate for power.
In any case, the rate you hav
Where are you seeing that kind of pricing? The utility cost would have to be
sub $0.15/kWh to even pay the bill with 20kW, ignoring any cooling.
Thanks,
Riley C. O'Connor
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> Sure, alright but given what you just said doesn’t it seem odd that there
> is still a static BGP tiebreaker in 2024?
No. Also not sure what your point is here.
On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 8:55 AM Drew Weaver wrote:
> Sure, alright but given what you just said doesn’t it seem odd that there
I don't understand how people stay in business paying $0.15/kWh. That's
crazy.
-- Original Message --
From "Riley O"
To "Aaron Wendel"
Cc "Tony Wicks" ; "NANOG list"
Date 12/11/2024 3:22:27 PM
Subject Re: Re[2]: COLO space in EU
Where are you seeing that kind of pricing? The uti
Considering a full cabinet with 20kW in the US costs under $2k total I
would say so.
Aaron
-- Original Message --
From "Tony Wicks"
To "'Aaron Wendel'"
Cc "'harbor235'" ; "'NANOG list'"
Date 12/11/2024 1:08:37 PM
Subject RE: COLO space in EU
Yea, looks like whoever did that quot
Yea, looks like whoever did that quote does not really want the business and is
pricing it as such
From: NANOG On Behalf Of Aaron Wendel
Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2024 8:05 am
To: harbor235 ; NANOG list
Subject: Re: COLO space in EU
So they have a charge just to have the capacity prese
Sure, alright but given what you just said doesn’t it seem odd that there is
still a static BGP tiebreaker in 2024?
From: Tom Beecher
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 12:12 PM
To: Jason Bothe
Cc: Drew Weaver ; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Route optimization using GPUs?
It's not even that.
GPU
Yes, it really doesn’t have anything to do with one ASN’s particular outbound
routing policy.
It only matters if that routing policy gets outside of that one ASN.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 2:19 PM
To: Jason Bothe
Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Drew Weaver
Subject: Re: Route op
Yeah, that is kind of why I said "Whatever Noction is doing" in the original
post.
I'm not really calling to resurrect Noction. I'm saying that BGP path selection
could be better and it's kind of silly that it's 2024 and things are still
being handled by a static tie breaker.
Thanks,
-Drew
-
To be fair it’s a technology and how it’s implemented does make a difference.
Wouldn’t you agree?
From: NANOG On Behalf Of Tom
Beecher
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 3:40 PM
To: Mike Hammett
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Route optimization using GPUs?
I think most of the hatred towards t
Yes, some level of shared responsibility has been present on the Internet
throughout it’s entire existence.
From: NANOG On Behalf Of Ryan
Hamel
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 5:35 PM
To: Warren Kumari ; Mike Hammett
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Route optimization using GPUs?
Warren,
All the solution I was talking about does is select the “best” path egress from
a multihomed ASN.
It just inserts a smaller prefix into the local routing table.
If people outside of your ASN are seeing that then you’ve already lost the game.
From: NANOG On Behalf Of Tom
Beecher
Sent: Thursday
The ones I've used have simply injected more specific routes into my own local
routing table to determine what path traffic takes to reach a specific
destination.
That's pretty much all it does.
The same way I use communities to do this based upon geography, or 500 other
things [avoiding 1299
Anyway I just wanted to clarify that during my use of route optimization all
the devices did was inject a more specific route to a prefix that my network
would then use to reach that prefix.
Those more specific routes weren't ever advertised to external BGP peers and if
they were they shouldn't
Yea, 0.15-30EUR is definitely higher than the US average, much higher than what
we pay.
Out here, colo spaces tend to charge ~1.5-2x the utility rate in the quote.
Mainly to factor in cooling, depending on their PUE.
Based on cost of power in the EU, the monthly seems fine, but the install co
Yep. I finally found some contacts at Lumen who ran it up the chain. I
also did report it to the Colorado PUC. I'm still confused about how
so many homes and businesses could be without service and Centurylink
wouldn't know about it. It's a small town, and I'm starting to think
everyone thought tha
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