China Telecom Global down at NL-IX

2024-10-11 Thread Brandon Zhi
Hello, Anyone here from China Telecom? It looks like the server in NL-IX is down. 193.239.118.168 Best, *Brandon Zhi* HUIZE LTD www.huize.asia | www.ixp.su | Twitter This e-mail and any attachments or any reproduction of this e-mail in whatever manner are confidential and

Re: Frustration with increasing information demands from Network Vendors

2024-10-11 Thread Bryan Holloway
On 10/11/24 16:35, Charles Polisher wrote: On 10/11/24 07:19, Nick Hilliard wrote: Rich Kulawiec wrote on 11/10/2024 15:07: Every answer to every question at every site should be different and every one of them should be wrong. This approach does lead to interesting conversations with tech

Re: Frustration with increasing information demands from Network Vendors

2024-10-11 Thread Charles Polisher
On 10/11/24 07:19, Nick Hilliard wrote: Rich Kulawiec wrote on 11/10/2024 15:07: Every answer to every question at every site should be different and every one of them should be wrong. This approach does lead to interesting conversations with tech support people when you explain to them that

Re: Frustration with increasing information demands from Network Vendors

2024-10-11 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 10/11/24 02:25, chiel via NANOG wrote: I really really really find it disgusting that companies have no problem asking for this kind of information!! Its not only Juniper but also other major brands. This kind of marketing pervasiveness predates the Internet. Warranty registration postcar

Re: Frustration with increasing information demands from Network Vendors

2024-10-11 Thread Tom Beecher
> > Not disputing, just curious. I assume you are talking about federal > law in the US, can you be specific about what the law says? > Just standard contract law is all I was referring too. On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 9:55 AM Saku Ytti wrote: > On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 at 16:36, Tom Beecher wrote: > >

Re: Frustration with increasing information demands from Network Vendors

2024-10-11 Thread Saku Ytti
On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 at 16:36, Tom Beecher wrote: > If you purchased a support contract with the switch, they are legally > required to provide you access to software updates. You may wish to remind > them of that fact. Not disputing, just curious. I assume you are talking about federal law in

Re: Frustration with increasing information demands from Network Vendors

2024-10-11 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 08:59:00PM +1100, Karl Auer wrote: > But there is a simple solution. Lie! Lie strongly and continuously. I strongly endorse this, doubly so given that the companies insisting on pointlessly collecting all this private information are the same companies that are staffed by m

Re: Frustration with increasing information demands from Network Vendors

2024-10-11 Thread Karl Auer
On Fri, 2024-10-11 at 11:25 +0200, chiel via NANOG wrote: > I only filled in the form with my own details (name, email address, > etc..) and said I refused to give information about the other > questions. > [...] > I'm I the only one that feels this strongly about this? Well, not the only one. Obv

Re: Frustration with increasing information demands from Network Vendors

2024-10-11 Thread Nick Hilliard
Rich Kulawiec wrote on 11/10/2024 15:07: Every answer to every question at every site should be different and every one of them should be wrong. This approach does lead to interesting conversations with tech support people when you explain to them that your birthday is some time in the 1700s

Frustration with increasing information demands from Network Vendors

2024-10-11 Thread chiel via NANOG
Hi, I have an handful of Juniper devices (mx204 / QFX5100). I recently bought a new QFX5110 switch I want to update to a newer software release. My account on the Juniper website seems to be disabled and therefor I send an email to customer care. They replied with a form that I have to fill in.

Re: Frustration with increasing information demands from Network Vendors

2024-10-11 Thread Tom Beecher
> > I really really really find it disgusting that companies have no problem > asking for this kind of information!! Its not only Juniper but also other > major brands. > Pretty standard capitalism feature. Everyone wants to know what else they might be able to sell you. I just bought a single sw

Microsoft contact (Safe Links / Defender for Office 365)

2024-10-11 Thread Romain
Hi all, If there is anyone from Microsoft here, that could help getting a legitimate link to stop being blocked by Safe Links / Microsoft Defender for Office 365... All reports method I can find on Internet require to be a customer of this solution, and I'm not. Thank you. Best regards, Romain

Re: Frustration with increasing information demands from Network Vendors

2024-10-11 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, chiel via NANOG said: > My account on the Juniper website seems to be disabled and therefor I > send an email to customer care. They replied with a form that I have to > fill in. A couple of of the questions are "/$ Revenue Range/", "/# of > Sales Reps/", "/# of Office Locations/

Weekly Global IPv4 Routing Table Report

2024-10-11 Thread Routing Table Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Global IPv4 Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG UKNOF, TZNOG, MENOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, LACNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to bg

Re: CGNAT growing pains

2024-10-11 Thread Tom Mitchell
Hi Jon, Are you dual stack? v6 would solve some of these issues? On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 12:20 PM Jon Lewis wrote: > We started rolling out CGNAT about 6 months ago. It was smooth sailing > for the first few months, but we eventually did run into a number of > issues. > > Our customer base i

Re: CGNAT growing pains

2024-10-11 Thread Tom Mitchell
https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 1:19 PM Jon Lewis wrote: > I'm not so sure about that. Our customers are all offered dual-stack > (DHCPv6, DHCPv6-PD). Do any of the common streaming services support v6 > yet? Last I checked, Hulu did not. > > On Tu

Re: Frustration with increasing information demands from Network Vendors

2024-10-11 Thread Saku Ytti
On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 at 23:02, Tom Beecher wrote: > Just standard contract law is all I was referring too. More specifically, were you referring to the support contract Juniper wrote? What is the applicable part in the contract that you commonly need to remind Juniper about and helps you in procu

Re: Frustration with increasing information demands from Network Vendors

2024-10-11 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/11/24 11:25, chiel via NANOG wrote: Hi, I have an handful of Juniper devices (mx204 / QFX5100). I recently bought a new QFX5110 switch I want to update to a newer software release. My account on the Juniper website seems to be disabled and therefor I send an email to customer care.

Re: Frustration with increasing information demands from Network Vendors

2024-10-11 Thread Aaron Wendel
Yes. It's dumb and shows how out of touch Juniper is with it's customers. Just make up some numbers. Tell them there's a billion dollars of opportunity in the pipeline and you have 1000 sales people. Aaron -- Original Message -- From "chiel via NANOG" To nanog@nanog.org Date 1

Re: Frustration with increasing information demands from Network Vendors

2024-10-11 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/11/24 16:53, Aaron Wendel wrote: Yes.  It's dumb and shows how out of touch Juniper is with it's customers. Cisco aren't any better, to be honest. They are all just finding clever ways to alienate long-standing loyal customers. Edgecore, UfiSpace, and them, are on their way to bec