Re: The Making of a Router

> for i in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/*/arp_announce; do echo 2 > $i;done +1 setting arp_announce in Linux is essential if being used as a router with more than one subnet. I would also recommend setting arp_ignore. For Linux-based routers, I've found the following settings to be optimal: echo 1 >

Re: The Making of a Router

On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 03:31 +0100, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > (...) > The users each have a unique VLAN (Q-in-Q). The question is, what do I put > on those VLANs, if I do not want to put a full IPv4 subnet on each? > > My own answer to that is to have the users share a larger subnet, for > example I

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On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 8:09 AM, sten rulz wrote: > Hello Baldur, > > Your design regarding proxy arp for every VLAN might hit some issues. If > you look at the nanog history you will find people having issues with proxy > arp for large number of VLANs, what is your requirement for proxy arp? > D

Re: The Making of a Router

On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 08:53:53AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > There is a significant value in "just plug it in and it works", and if > you don't figure your time investment (both up-front and on-going) into > the cost, you are greatly fooling yourself. What ISP-grade router are you using that is

Re: The Making of a Router

On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 08:47:25PM -0500, Jon Sands wrote: > On 12/27/2013 8:18 PM, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > >Brocade NetIron CER 2024F-4X goes for > >about $21k > > As one last aside, if you're paying 21k, you're paying a little more > than twice too much. Call Brocade and get yourself a real quo

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> Pretty much what everyone else said. I'm a huge linux person, almost > everything I use is linux, run full Myth set up etc, but I wouldn't > use it for a high PPS situation like this. It's just asking for > suffering later, at the worst possible times. to paraphrase MO from many years ago (as i

Re: The Making of a Router

Pretty much what everyone else said. I'm a huge linux person, almost everything I use is linux, run full Myth set up etc, but I wouldn't use it for a high PPS situation like this. It's just asking for suffering later, at the worst possible times. -Blake On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Shawn Wil

Re: The Making of a Router

Chris Adams wrote: >Once upon a time, Shawn Wilson said: >> I was hoping someone could give technical insight into why this is >good or not and not just "buy a box branded as a router because I said >so or your business will fail". I'm all for hearing about the business >theory of running an IS

Re: The Making of a Router

Once upon a time, Shawn Wilson said: > I was hoping someone could give technical insight into why this is good or > not and not just "buy a box branded as a router because I said so or your > business will fail". I'm all for hearing about the business theory of running > an ISP (not my backgrou

Re: The Making of a Router

In article you write: >It seems to be a pretty "hot button" issue, but I feel that modern hardware >is more than capable of pushing packets. The old wisdom of "only hardware >can do it efficiently" is starting to prove untrue. 10G might still be a >challenge (I haven't tested), but 1G is not e

Re: The Making of a Router

works reasonable if using a DHCP server otherwise you need to specify the MAC address. Some other brand switches support filtering the ARP packets per access port. Regards, Steven. Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 02:18:55 +0100 From: Baldur Norddahl To: "nanog@nanog.org" Subject: Re: The Making o

Re: The Making of a Router

but most providers require more than one uplink. There are lot of cheap options out there even the junipers are not that costly. Regards, Steven. Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 21:34:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Justin M. Streiner" To: William Waites Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: The Making o

Re: The Making of a Router

te: >>I propose cage fighting at the next NANOG summit. >> >> >>Sent from my Mobile Device. >> >> >> Original message >>From: Randy Bush >>Date: 12/27/2013 7:07 PM (GMT-09:00) >>To: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu >>Cc: North

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>Warren Bailey >via nanog.org : >I propose cage fighting at the next NANOG summit. Reminds me of some of the BOFs in 2000ish. Anyway, Ray's "TL;DR I think the backlash against anything but big iron routing is becoming a

Re: The Making of a Router

On Sat, 28 Dec 2013, William Waites wrote: On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 07:23:36 -0500 (EST), "Justin M. Streiner" said: > You end up combining some of the downsides of a hardware-based > router with some of the downsides of a server (new attack > vectors, another device that needs to be back

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t NANOG summit. > > >Sent from my Mobile Device. > > > Original message >From: Randy Bush >Date: 12/27/2013 7:07 PM (GMT-09:00) >To: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu >Cc: North American Network Operators' Group >Subject: Re: The Making of a Router >

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I propose cage fighting at the next NANOG summit. Sent from my Mobile Device. Original message From: Randy Bush Date: 12/27/2013 7:07 PM (GMT-09:00) To: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu Cc: North American Network Operators' Group Subject: Re: The Making of a Router > Rig

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On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 23:06:26 -0500, Randy Bush said: > not to worry. growth is not going to be an issue doing openflow due to > today's tcam limits. I said burn rate, not growth rate, Randy.. .:) pgppkYVsYy42z.pgp Description: PGP signature

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> Right. And the point that others are trying to make clear is that if > that $100K is half your capitalization, you have $200K - and that's > nowhere near enought to cover all the stuff you're going to hit > starting an ISP. (Hint - what's your projected burn rate for the > first two months of b

Re: The Making of a Router

On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 02:18:55 +0100, Baldur Norddahl said: > I was saying $100k for two Juniper routers total. Right. And the point that others are trying to make clear is that if that $100K is half your capitalization, you have $200K - and that's nowhere near enought to cover all the stuff you'r

Re: The Making of a Router

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 20:37:52 +, Faisal Imtiaz said: > e.g. If someone says I need a 10g interface, why is it automatically assumed > that the router is going to be running @ Full Line Rate ? It may not be full line rate - but it's a pretty sure bet that you plan to run it at a fairly high per

Re: The Making of a Router

On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > clearly you have a deep understanding of what you are doing, the market, > what costs and capabilities are, and where to get what you need. now > please remind me of what it was you were asking. > > randy > I asked if anyone here has experien

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clearly you have a deep understanding of what you are doing, the market, what costs and capabilities are, and where to get what you need. now please remind me of what it was you were asking. randy

Re: The Making of a Router

On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 3:50 AM, Brian Loveland wrote: > Interested on where you are buying transit at $1750/mo for full 10G ports > ($0.175/meg)? > > I did not that claim that. I said two times $21k divided by 12 = $3500 per month. Try he.net. Regards, Baldur

Re: The Making of a Router

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 07:23:36 -0500 (EST), "Justin M. Streiner" said: > You end up combining some of the downsides of a hardware-based > router with some of the downsides of a server (new attack > vectors, another device that needs to be backed up, patched, and > monitored... Mig

Re: The Making of a Router

Interested on where you are buying transit at $1750/mo for full 10G ports ($0.175/meg)? On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Jon Sands wrote: > > > Yes, and in that world, one should probably not start up a FTTH ISP when > > one has not even

Re: The Making of a Router

On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Jon Lewis wrote: > On Fri, 27 Dec 2013, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > > Another told Nick Cameo that if he can afford a 10G link, he can afford >> Juniper. You could not be more wrong. The 10G uplink goes for $0 in >> initial >> fee and less than $4k / month with unli

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On Fri, 27 Dec 2013, Baldur Norddahl wrote: Another told Nick Cameo that if he can afford a 10G link, he can afford Juniper. You could not be more wrong. The 10G uplink goes for $0 in initial fee and less than $4k / month with unlimited traffic. The Juniper gear is $100k up front for two routers

Re: The Making of a Router

On a side note, Q-in-Q support has been added to the recent 3.10 Linux kernel, configured using the "ip" command. It will be popping up in distributions "soon [tm]". Another interesting addition is IPv6 NAT (transparent redirect, prefix translation, etc). On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Baldur

Re: The Making of a Router

On 12/27/2013 8:18 PM, Baldur Norddahl wrote: Brocade NetIron CER 2024F-4X goes for about $21k As one last aside, if you're paying 21k, you're paying a little more than twice too much. Call Brocade and get yourself a real quote. I think peoples main point here is that any handful of thousand

Re: The Making of a Router

On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Jon Sands wrote: > Yes, and in that world, one should probably not start up a FTTH ISP when > one has not even budgeted for a router, among a thousand other things. And > if you must, you should probably figure out your cost breakdown beforehand, > not after. Bal

Re: The Making of a Router

On 28 Dec 2013, at 00:13 , Ray Soucy wrote: > It seems to be a pretty "hot button" issue, but I feel that modern hardware > is more than capable of pushing packets. The old wisdom of "only hardware > can do it efficiently" is starting to prove untrue. 10G might still be a > challenge (I haven't

Re: The Making of a Router

It seems to be a pretty "hot button" issue, but I feel that modern hardware is more than capable of pushing packets. The old wisdom of "only hardware can do it efficiently" is starting to prove untrue. 10G might still be a challenge (I haven't tested), but 1G is not even close to being an issue.

Re: The Making of a Router

On 12/27/2013 4:23 PM, Matt Palmer wrote: There *is* a world outside of Silly Valley, you know... a world where money doesn't flow like a mighty cascade from the benevolent wallets of vulture capitalists, into the waiting arms of every crackpot with an elevator pitch. - Matt Yes, and in that

Re: The Making of a Router

On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: > If you want to use servers as routers, that's your choice. I think what > most people in the thread have been saying is not to use one server (or > even a pair of servers) for everything. It's one thing if server XYZ goes > down and s

Re: The Making of a Router

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Most 'DYI' solutions, make the non-techy bean counters very nervous, and seeing a major 'name brand' label for some odd reason makes them real comfortable, ir-respective of the capabilities or function of either solution. For a lot of organizations,

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inal Message - > From: "Jared Mauch" > To: "Faisal Imtiaz" > Cc: "Eugeniu Patrascu" , "North American Network > Operators' Group" > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 4:04:12 PM > Subject: Re: The Making of a Router > > > O

Re: The Making of a Router

On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:18:47AM -0500, Jon Sands wrote: > On Dec 27, 2013 10:08 AM, "Baldur Norddahl" > wrote: > > > We are an upstart and just buying the fancy Juniper switch times two > would burn half of my seed capital. > > Then you didn't ask for nearly enough capital. There *is* a worl

Re: The Making of a Router

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013, Baldur Norddahl wrote: Everybody have critical services running on servers. DHCP, DNS, Radius and so on are all on servers and you will be down if these services are down. What is with the knee jerk reaction for suggesting that the BGP daemon could also be run on a server? T

Re: The Making of a Router

On Dec 27, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > e.g. If someone says I need a 10g interface, why is it automatically assumed > that the router is going to be running @ Full Line Rate ? Those of us with experience know that when “something bad(tm)” happens, those features and “expensive si

Re: The Making of a Router

> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 3:23:11 PM > Subject: Re: The Making of a Router > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Baldur Norddahl > wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Jon Sands wrote: > > > > > On Dec 27, 2013 10:08 AM, "Baldur Nord

Re: The Making of a Router

Well said Baldur For those who are movie buffs.. here is the snippet that visually summaries.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEkOT3IngMQ As to the knee jerk reaction to a server doing routing such folks tend to forget that Routers are purpose built serversand most of the Interne

Re: The Making of a Router

On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Jon Sands wrote: > > > On Dec 27, 2013 10:08 AM, "Baldur Norddahl" > > wrote: > > > > > We are an upstart and just buying the fancy Juniper switch times two > > would burn half of my seed capital. > > >

Re: The Making of a Router

On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Jon Sands wrote: > On Dec 27, 2013 10:08 AM, "Baldur Norddahl" > wrote: > > > We are an upstart and just buying the fancy Juniper switch times two > would burn half of my seed capital. > > Then you didn't ask for nearly enough capital. > Another told Nick Cameo

Re: The Making of a Router

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013, Andrew D Kirch wrote: If he can afford a 10G link... he should be buying real gear... I mean, look, I've got plenty of infrastructure horror stories, but lets not cobble together our own 10gbit solutions, please? At least get one of the new microtik CCR's with a 10gig sf

Re: The Making of a Router

On gio, 2013-12-26 at 11:33 -0500, Nick Cameo wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > We are looking to put together a 2u server with a few PCIe 3 x8 > (recommendations appreciated). The router will take a voip transcoding > line card, and will act as an edge router for a telecom company. > > For things lik

Re: The Making of a Router

On Dec 27, 2013 10:08 AM, "Baldur Norddahl" wrote: > We are an upstart and just buying the fancy Juniper switch times two would burn half of my seed capital. Then you didn't ask for nearly enough capital.

Re: The Making of a Router

I need a solution for everything except the last-mile customers. The customers are connected to a Zhone PON switch. From there they will arrive at our core switch as Q-in-Q vlans, one vlan per customer. I need a router that will do two full routing tables for our uplinks, a number of partial routin

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You could look into Noviflow! F. Sent from my mobile device. Apologies for any typo. > On Dec 27, 2013, at 8:05, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > > On the topic of building a software router for an ISP, has anyone tried it > using OpenFlow? The idea is to have a Linux server run BGP and a hardware > s

Re: The Making of a Router

On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > On the topic of building a software router for an ISP, has anyone tried it > using OpenFlow? The idea is to have a Linux server run BGP and a hardware > switch to move the packets. The switch would be programmed by the Linux > server using

Re: The Making of a Router

On the topic of building a software router for an ISP, has anyone tried it using OpenFlow? The idea is to have a Linux server run BGP and a hardware switch to move the packets. The switch would be programmed by the Linux server using the OpenFlow protocol. I am looking at the HP 5400 zl switches a

Re: The Making of a Router

In talking about RAMBOOT I also realized the instructions are out of date on the website. The "ramboot" boot target script was updated since I created the initial page to generate the correct fstab, and enable the root account, set a hostname, etc. so you can actually use the OS until you create a

Re: The Making of a Router

On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 1:33 AM, wrote: > On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:16:53 -0800, Seth Mattinen said: >> On 12/26/13, 9:24, Andrew D Kirch wrote: >> > >> > If he can afford a 10G link... he should be buying real gear... I mean, >> > look, I've got plenty of infrastructure horror stories, but lets no

Re: The Making of a Router

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:16:53 -0800, Seth Mattinen said: > On 12/26/13, 9:24, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > > > > If he can afford a 10G link... he should be buying real gear... I mean, > > look, I've got plenty of infrastructure horror stories, but lets not > > cobble together our own 10gbit solutions,

Re: The Making of a Router

Chipsets and drivers matter a lot in the 1G+ range. I've had pretty good luck with the Intel stuff because they offload a lot in hardware and make open drivers available to the community. On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Olivier Cochard-Labbé wrote: > Le 26 déc. 2013 22:02, "Nick Cameo" a écri

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The basic idea of RAMBOOT is typical in Embedded Linux development. Linux makes use of multi-stage boot process. One of the stages involves using an initial ramdisk (initrd) to provide a base root filesystem which can be used to locate and mount the system root, then continue the boot process fro

Re: The Making of a Router

Le 26 déc. 2013 22:02, "Nick Cameo" a écrit : > > Any benchmarks of freebsd vs openbsd vs present day linux kern? > Hi, Here are my own benchs using smallest packet size (sorry no Linux): http://dev.bsdrp.net/benchs/BSD.network.performance.TenGig.png My conclusion: building a line-rate gigabit r

Re: The Making of a Router

- Original Message - > From: "Matt Palmer" > I've got plenty of horror stories of vendor support. Perhaps we can get > together some day and have a story-off. Just subject-tag it so we can archive it, ok guys? Cheers, -- jr 'whacky weekend' a -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylin

Re: The Making of a Router

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:33:13 -0500, Nick Cameo said: > Hello Everyone, > > We are looking to put together a 2u server with a few PCIe 3 x8 > (recommendations appreciated). The router will take a voip transcoding > line card, and will act as an edge router for a telecom company. Two things you want

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>> Unless they deem that it's "outside of scope". Or they can't get anyone to >> you inside of SLA[1]. Or they send someone incompetent. Or it's a problem >> that's never happened before. Amen! >> *Everything* is a nightmare to support. A DIY project just means that >> you're betting you're s

Re: The Making of a Router

On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 05:21:11PM +, Warren Bailey wrote: > Not to mention the fact that this "router" will require support. The build > before buy people are silly. Let the smart router guys do their thing and > use their box accordingly. When it breaks call to inform them it broke > and th

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Oh my bad. I did not mean it like that at all! I am more that capable of putting it together using gentoo instead of debian (a little pedagogy goes a long way). And if he would like, he can post the ISO on his webstie alongside the different distro. This is what I was leaning too... Please don't b

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On 12/26/13, 13:22, Nick Cameo wrote: Ummm, if it's ok with the community, can you kindly elaborate:). I am not too fond of Debian since my horrible experience with Squeeze Desktop. I would maybe like to try this using the combination of SSD, in memory, and Gentoo? Not to sound rude, but if so

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> One of the biggest advantages is the low cost of hardware allows you to > maintain spare systems, reducing the time to service restoration in the > event of failure. Dependability-wise, I feel that whitebox Linux systems > are pretty much at Cisco levels these days, especially if running > in-me

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Inline response exist, On 12/26/13, Ray Soucy wrote: > You can build using commodity hardware and get pretty good results. > > I've had really good luck with Supermicro whitebox hardware, and > Intel-based network cards. The "Hot Lava Systems" cards have a nice > selection for a decent price if

Re: The Making of a Router

On 12/26/13 11:33 AM, "Nick Cameo" wrote: >Hello Everyone, > >We are looking to put together a 2u server with a few PCIe 3 x8 >(recommendations appreciated). The router will take a voip transcoding >line card, and will act as an edge router for a telecom company. > >For things like BGP (Quagga,

Re: The Making of a Router

On 12/26/13, Alessandro Ratti wrote: > if you want build by yourself I will suggest gentoo and/or freebsd with > bird (http://bird.network.cz/) for routing stuff (maybe with 10G nics). Hello Alessandro, Any benchmarks of freebsd vs openbsd vs present day linux kern?

Re: The Making of a Router

On 12/26/13, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > I am a believer of not having to re-invent the wheel... > > Having said that.. have you looked at 'purpose built appliances' e.g. > > http://www.lannerinc.com/ > http://us.axiomtek.com/ > > If you are looking for a full router > Consider such as these... >

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> Have you tried labbing BSD vs Linux to see which you like better? I'd > probably do that before throwing it in to production. > -- Great advice Thomas! I will be creating a BSD virtual machine to get a feel however, with linux I can think broad scale and forcast better. With BSD, I am concerned

Re: The Making of a Router

On 12/26/13, 11:28, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Ahh.. so you are the one who bought those two from Ebay ! I was watching, but got to them rather late. If you are the one who got them.. you got a great deal. These have Mikrotik ROS license with them, you can do BGP/ OSPF etc. with them If you want to r

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ot; > To: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 2:18:14 PM > Subject: Re: The Making of a Router > > On 12/26/13, 8:46, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > > I am a believer of not having to re-invent the wheel... > > > > Having said that.. have you looked at '

Re: The Making of a Router

On 12/26/13, 8:46, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: I am a believer of not having to re-invent the wheel... Having said that.. have you looked at 'purpose built appliances' e.g. http://www.lannerinc.com/ http://us.axiomtek.com/ If you are looking for a full router Consider such as these... http:/

Re: The Making of a Router

On 12/26/13, 9:24, Andrew D Kirch wrote: If he can afford a 10G link... he should be buying real gear... I mean, look, I've got plenty of infrastructure horror stories, but lets not cobble together our own 10gbit solutions, please? At least get one of the new microtik CCR's with a 10gig sfp+?

Re: The Making of a Router

For router with Freebsd+BIRD/Quagga, I suggest BSDRP.http://bsdrp.net 2013/12/26 Ray Soucy > You can build using commodity hardware and get pretty good results. > > I've had really good luck with Supermicro whitebox hardware, and > Intel-based network cards. The "Hot Lava Systems" cards have

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You can build using commodity hardware and get pretty good results. I've had really good luck with Supermicro whitebox hardware, and Intel-based network cards. The "Hot Lava Systems" cards have a nice selection for a decent price if you're looking for SFP and SFP+ cards that use Intel chipsets.

Re: The Making of a Router

I've recently pushed a "large" BSD box to a load of over 300, for more then an hour, while under test, some things slowed a little, but she kept on working! -jim On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Shawn Wilson wrote: > Totally agree that a routing box should be standalone for tons of reasons. >

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Totally agree that a routing box should be standalone for tons of reasons. Even separating network routing and call routing. It used to be that BSD's network stack was much better than Linux's under load. I'm not sure if this is still the case - I've never been put in the situation where the Li

Re: The Making of a Router

On 12/26/2013 12:05 PM, Alessandro Ratti wrote: (maybe with 10G nics). If he can afford a 10G link... he should be buying real gear... I mean, look, I've got plenty of infrastructure horror stories, but lets not cobble together our own 10gbit solutions, please? At least get one of the ne

Re: The Making of a Router

Sent from my Mobile Device. Original message From: Eric Clark Date: 12/26/2013 8:00 AM (GMT-09:00) To: Faisal Imtiaz Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: The Making of a Router I also wonder about re-inventing the wheel. The router part is easy, you could even do that with a w

Re: The Making of a Router

if you want build by yourself I will suggest gentoo and/or freebsd with bird (http://bird.network.cz/) for routing stuff (maybe with 10G nics). Don't put all this in one box. +1 On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Nick Cameo wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > We are looking to put together a 2u serve

Re: The Making of a Router

Have to agree on the below. I've seen too many devices be so integrated they do no task well, and can't be rebooted to troubleshoot due to everyone using them. Jared Mauch > On Dec 26, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > > Don't put all this in one box.

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rds > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > > > - Original Message - >> From: "Nick Cameo" >> To: nanog@nanog.org >> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:33:13 AM >> Subject: The Making of a Router >> >> Hello Ever

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, and > ability to create redundancy much more practical. > > > Regards > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > > > - Original Message - >> From: "Nick Cameo" >> To: nanog@nanog.org >> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013

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If you're trying to do this cheaply, I'd recommend an appropriate sized Mikrotik router, and perhaps something running digium's transcoding hardware/Asterisk, or some Adtran hardware. Don't put all this in one box. Andrew On 12/26/2013 11:33 AM, Nick Cameo wrote: Hello Everyone, We are look

Re: The Making of a Router

aintenance, availability, and ability to create redundancy much more practical. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom - Original Message - > From: "Nick Cameo" > To: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:33:13 AM > Subject: The Making of a

The Making of a Router

Hello Everyone, We are looking to put together a 2u server with a few PCIe 3 x8 (recommendations appreciated). The router will take a voip transcoding line card, and will act as an edge router for a telecom company. For things like BGP (Quagga, Zebra, all that lovely stuff!!!), static routes, and