On a side note, Q-in-Q support has been added to the recent 3.10 Linux kernel, configured using the "ip" command. It will be popping up in distributions "soon [tm]". Another interesting addition is IPv6 NAT (transparent redirect, prefix translation, etc).
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Baldur Norddahl <baldur.nordd...@gmail.com>wrote: > On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Jon Sands <fohdee...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Yes, and in that world, one should probably not start up a FTTH ISP when > > one has not even budgeted for a router, among a thousand other things. > And > > if you must, you should probably figure out your cost breakdown > beforehand, > > not after. Baldur, you mention $200k total to move 10gb with Juniper > (which > > seems insanely off to me). Look into Brocades CER line, you can move 4x > > 10gbe per chassis for under 12k. > > > > I was saying $100k for two Juniper routers total. > > Perhaps we could get back on track, instead of trying to second guess what > we did or did not budget for. You have absolute no information about our > business plans. > > The Brocade BR-CER-2024F-4X-RT-AC - Brocade NetIron CER 2024F-4X goes for > about $21k and we need two of them. That is enough to buy a full year of > unlimited 10G internet. And even then, we would be short on 10G ports. > > It is not that we could not bring that money if that was the only way to do > it. It is just that I have so many other things that I could spend that > money on, that would further our business plans so much more. > > I can not even say if the Juniper or the Brocade will actually solve my > problem. I need it to route to ten of thousands of VLANS (Q-in-Q), both > with IPv4 and IPv6. It needs to act as IPv6 router on every VLAN, and very > few devices seems to like having that many IP-addresses assigned. It also > needs to do VRRP and proxy arp for every VLAN. > > The advantage of a software solution is that I can test it all before > buying. Also to some limited degree, I am able to fix shortcomings myself. > > Regards, > > Baldur > -- Ray Patrick Soucy Network Engineer University of Maine System T: 207-561-3526 F: 207-561-3531 MaineREN, Maine's Research and Education Network www.maineren.net
