Re: TCP torture testing

2025-01-18 Thread Pete D.
Shopify built a go app called Toxiproxy that would allow for injecting TCP oddballs into an http stream. https://github.com/Shopify/toxiproxy > Toxiproxy is a framework for simulating network conditions. It's made specifically to work in testing, CI and development environments, supporting determ

Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology

2025-01-18 Thread Brandon Z.
I believe the simplest solution is to allow cross-regional issuance of trust certificates between RIRs. This way, as long as at least one of the ROA is marked as valid, even if one RIR sets a country's IPs as invalid due to political reasons, other RIRs can still maintain their IPs are with vaild R

Re: TCP torture testing

2025-01-17 Thread joel
If you want to go nuts, check out Scapy > On Jan 17, 2025, at 13:13, Brandon Martin wrote: > > Does anyone know of a good way to simulate oddball TCP happenings like: > > * Out of order delivery > * Variable delivery delays > * (Especially) Unusual segmentation e.g. splitting part of a stream t

Re: TCP torture testing

2025-01-17 Thread Brandon Martin
On 1/17/25 14:29, William Herrin wrote: Well... In theory, TCP closes the segment at the end of the application's send() and sets the PSH flag. Likewise, on the receiving side the recv() returns before filling the buffer upon receipt of a segment with the PSH flag set. Every segment this thing

Re: TCP torture testing

2025-01-17 Thread Brandon Martin
're not all the same size. I suspect I have an issue somewhere with my buffer handling, TCP re-assembly, etc. but don't have a good place to look without being able to re-create it while speaking a protocol that I actually speak (which precludes some common things like HTTP, in

Re: TCP torture testing

2025-01-17 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 10:42 AM Lukas Tribus wrote: > This is more difficult because a TCP proxy (as in a userspace > application) does not do the TCP segmenting, the kernel does. Sure the > application may set flags like TCP_NODELAY to toggle Nagle, but beyond > that the application has not real

Re: TCP torture testing

2025-01-17 Thread Lukas Tribus
Hello, On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 at 19:13, Brandon Martin wrote: > > Does anyone know of a good way to simulate oddball TCP happenings like: > > * Out of order delivery > * Variable delivery delays I would suggest to take a look at linux tc-netem > * (Especially) Unusual segmentation e.g. splitting

Re: AT&t ABF NYC

2025-01-17 Thread nanog
At the risk of pointing out the obvious, only a small percentage of people would be expected to use the 25Mbps plan. It sounds pretty typical: if you want access to all the money in this lucrative market, you have to cover the whole market, even at the very lowest end where you'll lose money, b

Re: Free pass NANOG

2025-01-17 Thread Lu Heng
ney in whatever way they wish as is their right. >>> This is simply what I would do. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Christopher Hawker >>> -- >>> *From:* NANOG on behalf >>> of Lu Heng >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, J

Re: Edgio Bankruptcy - Services cut-off

2025-01-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/16/25 22:23, Tom Beecher wrote: The shutoff date was yesterday. They don't have everything off yet, the remaining crew doing that is very small. We deployed quite a bit of network with them in East and Southern Africa from 2022 - 2024, when I was still there. I'm hearing that there

Re: US executive order forces all US goverment resoruces to be with ARIN/etc?

2025-01-16 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 4:04 PM Mark Foster wrote: > Presumably the RIR relationship is seen to deliver advantages from a > risk management perspective. The contract with ARIN gets you access to their authenticated route registry (IRR) and lets you create RPKI records. Legacy registrants don't ha

Re: Edgio Bankruptcy - Services cut-off

2025-01-16 Thread Christopher Hawker
OG on behalf of TJ Trout Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 1:15:48 PM To: Tom Beecher Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Edgio Bankruptcy - Services cut-off Does this mean 22822 is shutting down? On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 12:25 PM Tom Beecher mailto:beec...@beecher.cc>> wrote: The shutoff date w

Re: Edgio Bankruptcy - Services cut-off

2025-01-16 Thread TJ Trout
Does this mean 22822 is shutting down? On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 12:25 PM Tom Beecher wrote: > The shutoff date was yesterday. They don't have everything off yet, the > remaining crew doing that is very small. > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 11:56 AM Pacheco, Matheus < > matheus.pach...@tritondigital.

Re: US executive order forces all US goverment resoruces to be with ARIN/etc?

2025-01-16 Thread Mark Foster
On 17/01/25 12:54, William Herrin wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 3:28 PM Mark Foster wrote: Put it another way - what _assigned_ resources (the use of the word 'assigned' needs to be considered) would any FCEB be using that aren't from either ARIN or another appropriate registry? Hi Mark, T

Re: US executive order forces all US goverment resoruces to be with ARIN/etc?

2025-01-16 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 3:28 PM Mark Foster wrote: > Put it another way - what _assigned_ resources (the use of the word > 'assigned' needs to be considered) would any FCEB be using that aren't > from either ARIN or another appropriate registry? Hi Mark, The answer is: so-called "legacy" IP addr

Re: US executive order forces all US goverment resoruces to be with ARIN/etc?

2025-01-16 Thread Mark Foster
On 17/01/25 12:19, babydr DBA James W. Laferriere wrote: Hello ,  All ... On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, William Herrin wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9:00?AM Ben Cartwright-Cox via NANOG wrote: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2025/01/16/executive-order-on-strengtheni

Re: US executive order forces all US goverment resoruces to be with ARIN/etc?

2025-01-16 Thread babydr DBA James W. Laferriere
Hello , All ... On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, William Herrin wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9:00?AM Ben Cartwright-Cox via NANOG wrote: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2025/01/16/executive-order-on-strengthening-and-promoting-innovation-in-the-nations-cybersecurit

Re: Seeking AS36351 Softlayer Contact

2025-01-16 Thread Aaron Atac via NANOG
Thanks, all. Jan 16, 2025 at 2:56 PM by nanog@nanog.org: > Seeking AS36351 Softlayer contact > > -Aaron >

Re: US executive order forces all US goverment resoruces to be with ARIN/etc?

2025-01-16 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9:00 AM Ben Cartwright-Cox via NANOG wrote: > https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2025/01/16/executive-order-on-strengthening-and-promoting-innovation-in-the-nations-cybersecurity/ > > > (i)Within 90 days of the date of this order, FCEB agencie

Re: US executive order forces all US goverment resoruces to be with ARIN/etc?

2025-01-16 Thread Nick Hilliard
Ben Cartwright-Cox via NANOG wrote on 16/01/2025 21:29: I mean sure, but if ARIN is being named directly I assume that all or almost all of it is going to go to ARIN! not all the US federal government's interests reside in the USA. Nick

Re: US executive order forces all US goverment resoruces to be with ARIN/etc?

2025-01-16 Thread Ben Cartwright-Cox via NANOG
I mean sure, but if ARIN is being named directly I assume that all or almost all of it is going to go to ARIN! On Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 20:26 Tom Beecher wrote: > or another appropriate regional Internet registry. > > > Important end of the sentence. > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 12:09 PM Ben Cartwr

Re: US executive order forces all US goverment resoruces to be with ARIN/etc?

2025-01-16 Thread Tom Beecher
> > or another appropriate regional Internet registry. Important end of the sentence. On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 12:09 PM Ben Cartwright-Cox via NANOG < nanog@nanog.org> wrote: > Still reading this very word dense executive order that came out recently: > > > https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-r

Re: AT&t ABF NYC

2025-01-16 Thread Dorn Hetzel
Given the income requirements, what percentage of households in the affected area are expected to qualify for these rates? On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 4:19 PM Tom Beecher wrote: > I dont normally defend ATT, but… >> >> *"The plans are specifically priced at $15 per month for 25 Megabits per >> secon

Re: Edgio Bankruptcy - Services cut-off

2025-01-16 Thread Tom Beecher
The shutoff date was yesterday. They don't have everything off yet, the remaining crew doing that is very small. On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 11:56 AM Pacheco, Matheus < matheus.pach...@tritondigital.com> wrote: > Hi Nanog > > Anybody here still using services with Edgio that have some details (or > a

Re: AT&t ABF NYC

2025-01-16 Thread Tom Beecher
> > I dont normally defend ATT, but… > > *"The plans are specifically priced at $15 per month for 25 Megabits per > second (Mbps) download speeds and $20 per month for 200 Mbps. These prices > must include recurring taxes, equipment rental fees, and other usage fees, > with annual price increases c

Re: AT&t ABF NYC

2025-01-16 Thread John Von Essen
I dont normally defend ATT, but… "The plans are specifically priced at $15 per month for 25 Megabits per second (Mbps) download speeds and $20 per month for 200 Mbps. These prices must include recurring taxes, equipment rental fees, and other usage fees, with annual price increases capped at 2%

Re: AT&t ABF NYC

2025-01-16 Thread Dan Stralka
rate to > AWB. > > > ------ > *From:* NANOG on behalf > of Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Thursday, January 16, 2025 9:56 AM > *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org > *Subject:* Re: AT&t ABF NYC > > Yes, and that AT&T already said they were pulling th

RE: cloudflare timeout errors (from edge itself)

2025-01-16 Thread Dmitry Sherman
Funny thing is that cloudflare so far didn’t solve it and closed the case. We tried changing routes didn’t help. Nobody answers from their side Dmitry Sherman Interhost Networks T: +972.74.702.9881 M: +972.54.318.1182 E: dmi...@interhost.net W: interhost

Re: AT&t ABF NYC

2025-01-16 Thread sronan
I’m assuming he’s referring to the New York State low income Internet mandate that recently went into effect.New York's $15 Broadband Law Takes Effect Wednesdaybroadbandbreakfast.comOn Jan 16, 2025, at 9:25 AM, Tom Beecher wrote:Mike-What specific government regulation or action are you asserting

Re: Level3 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 not responding to pings, DNS queries work

2025-01-16 Thread Warren Kumari
-- > > *From:* na...@fleish.org > *Sent:* Monday, January 13, 2025 7:19 AM > *To:* Mel Beckman ; sterling.dan...@gmail.com dan...@gmail.com> > *Cc:* North American Network Operators' Group > *Subject:* Re: Level3 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 not respo

Re: CAIDA AS Rank

2025-01-16 Thread Romain Fontugne via NANOG
b...@uu3.net Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 06:49 To: Aaron Atac Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: CAIDA AS Rank Well, in their API help page there is contact mail. I contacted them few years ago when they were migrating from API v1 to API v2 and got helpfull hints, so might worth to try. (I had

Re: AT&t ABF NYC

2025-01-16 Thread Mike Hammett
: sro...@ronan-online.com To: "Tom Beecher" Cc: "Mike Hammett" , nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 8:27:39 AM Subject: Re: AT&t ABF NYC I’m assuming he’s referring to the New York State low income Internet mandate that recently went into effect.

Re: AT&t ABF NYC

2025-01-16 Thread Tom Beecher
Yup. Claims that AT&T is 'pulling out of NYS' because of this is comically misinformed. Reviewing the facts: 1. ISPs are required to offer low income consumers, defined as eligible for free/reduced priced lunch through the National School Lunch Program, or income of less than 185% of the federal

Re: AT&t ABF NYC

2025-01-16 Thread Josh Luthman
New York Affordable Broadband Act https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/new-york-starts-enforcing-15-broadband-law-that-isps-tried-to-kill/ On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9:24 AM Tom Beecher wrote: > Mike- > > What specific government regulation or action are you asserting here that > caused thi

Re: AT&t ABF NYC

2025-01-16 Thread Robert DeVita
will be disconnected 3/1/25 Existing customers are being contacted via email, direct mail, and bill message to inform them of the changes and offer the option to migrate to AWB. From: NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 9:56 AM Cc: n

Re: AT&t ABF NYC

2025-01-16 Thread Mike Hammett
: sro...@ronan-online.com To: "Tom Beecher" Cc: "Mike Hammett" , nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 8:27:39 AM Subject: Re: AT&t ABF NYC I’m assuming he’s referring to the New York State low income Internet mandate that recently went into effect.

Re: AT&t ABF NYC

2025-01-16 Thread Tom Beecher
Mike- What specific government regulation or action are you asserting here that caused this action? On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9:13 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > Government gets over involved in things they don't understand, and > businesses pull out. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computin

Re: AT&t ABF NYC

2025-01-16 Thread Mike Hammett
Government gets over involved in things they don't understand, and businesses pull out. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Robert DeVita" To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursd

Re: Free pass NANOG

2025-01-14 Thread steve ulrich
ds, >> Christopher Hawker >> ------ >> *From:* NANOG on behalf >> of Lu Heng >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2025 10:00 AM >> *To:* Ilissa Miller >> *Cc:* NANOG >> *Subject:* Re: Free pass NANOG >> >> Hi Llissa:

Re: Free pass NANOG

2025-01-14 Thread Tom Beecher
ive away tickets to. >> >> To be transparent, everyone is entitled to do with their tickets as they >> wish, and spend their money in whatever way they wish as is their right. >> This is simply what I would do. >> >> Regards, >> Christopher Hawker >>

Re: Free pass NANOG

2025-01-14 Thread Lu Heng
- > *From:* NANOG on behalf of > Lu Heng > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2025 10:00 AM > *To:* Ilissa Miller > *Cc:* NANOG > *Subject:* Re: Free pass NANOG > > Hi Llissa: > > Thank you for your kind words. > > As the Diamond sponsor and meeti

Re: Free pass NANOG

2025-01-14 Thread Christopher Hawker
istopher Hawker From: NANOG on behalf of Lu Heng Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2025 10:00 AM To: Ilissa Miller Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Free pass NANOG Hi Llissa: Thank you for your kind words. As the Diamond sponsor and meeting host for the upcoming meetin

Re: Free pass NANOG

2025-01-14 Thread Lu Heng
. sponsoring someone to attend who otherwise may not have the >>>> capacity to purchase a ticket. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Christopher Hawker >>>> -- >>>> *From:* NANOG on behalf >>>>

Re: CAIDA AS Rank

2025-01-14 Thread Bradley Huffaker
> in keeping that stuff online. If it wont back online on Monday, I can try > to contact them.. > > If you happen get some info from them please share (privately if necessary). > > > -- Original message -- > > From: Aaron Atac > To: Borg > Cc: Nan

Re: Free pass NANOG

2025-01-14 Thread Ilissa Miller
ne to attend who otherwise may not have the >>> capacity to purchase a ticket. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Christopher Hawker >>> -- >>> *From:* NANOG on behalf >>> of Tom Beecher >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January

Re: Free pass NANOG

2025-01-14 Thread Tom Beecher
attend who otherwise may not have the >>> capacity to purchase a ticket. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Christopher Hawker >>> -- >>> *From:* NANOG on behalf >>> of Tom Beecher >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 14, 2025

Re: Free pass NANOG

2025-01-13 Thread Lu Heng
the capacity >> to purchase a ticket. >> >> Regards, >> Christopher Hawker >> -- >> *From:* NANOG on behalf >> of Tom Beecher >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 14, 2025 1:57 AM >> *To:* Lu Heng >> *Cc:* NANOG >> *Subject:*

Re: Free pass NANOG

2025-01-13 Thread Christopher Hawker
ot have the capacity to purchase a ticket. Regards, Christopher Hawker From: NANOG on behalf of Tom Beecher Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 1:57 AM To: Lu Heng Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Free pass NANOG If NANOG has given you meeting passes that you aren't

Re: Level3 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 not responding to pings, DNS queries work

2025-01-13 Thread Justin Krejci
mailto:North%20American%20Network%20Operators'%20group%20%3cna...@nanog.org%3e>> Subject: Re: Level3 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 not responding to pings, DNS queries work Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 14:59:27 -0500 Dan’s not here, man! But I’m glad to spread the word so it can help more people in their

Re: Level3 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 not responding to pings, DNS queries work

2025-01-13 Thread nanog--- via NANOG
Dan’s not here, man! But I’m glad to spread the word so it can help more people in their troubleshoot efforts. -T > On Jan 13, 2025, at 10:48, Mel Beckman wrote: > > Dan, > > That dig tip for identifying the NS phy loc is very nice! That's something I > can put in our support procedures for

Re: ARIN Online update to provide auto-managed IRR objects for RPKI ROAs (Fwd: [arin-announce] New Features Added to ARIN Online)

2025-01-13 Thread Randy Bush
> For those using RPKI, there is now optional functionality in ARIN > Online that allows for automatic syncing of IRR route objects to ROAs thank you for making it optional and giving the op the choice randy

Re: HBO / MAX Geolocation Contact

2025-01-13 Thread Chris
You might check if it's up to date on MaxMind and the like, HBO probably just pulls their data from one of those. On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 9:24 PM Esteban Hernandez wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone have contact information for HBO / MAX? > > Our residential customers cannot access the service and I

Re: HBO / MAX Geolocation Contact

2025-01-13 Thread Justin Krejci
- From: Esteban Hernandez mailto:esteban%20hernandez%20%3cesteban.hernan...@lixer.mx%3e>> To: Justin Wilson (Lists) mailto:%22justin%20wilson%20%28lists%29%22%20%3cli...@mtin.net%3e>> Cc: nanog mailto:nanog%20%3cna...@nanog.org%3e>> Subject: Re: HBO / MAX Geolocation Contact Dat

Re: 400G link L2 flakiness over DWDM

2025-01-13 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/13/25 18:29, Brandon Martin wrote: On 1/13/25 10:10, Tom Beecher wrote: This is a not uncommon bug on Ciena stuff. Thankfully it doesn't happen often and is a straightforward fix, although bouncing a card is obv not ideal in a lot of cases. I've been looking at the Waveserver line, s

Re: Level3 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 not responding to pings, DNS queries work

2025-01-13 Thread Tom Beecher
The 4's have definitely had occasional ICMP allergies over the last 20 years. On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 11:27 PM Mel Beckman wrote: > Dan, > > Thanks! I had never read that before. But that makes sense. > > -mel > > On Jan 12, 2025, at 8:22 PM, Daniel Sterling > wrote: > >  > Seems like these I

Re: 400G link L2 flakiness over DWDM

2025-01-13 Thread Brandon Martin
On 1/13/25 10:10, Tom Beecher wrote: This is a not uncommon bug on Ciena stuff. Thankfully it doesn't happen often and is a straightforward fix, although bouncing a card is obv not ideal in a lot of cases. I've been looking at the Waveserver line, so this is somewhat relevant to my interests.

Re: Level3 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 not responding to pings, DNS queries work

2025-01-13 Thread Mel Beckman
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group Subject: Re: Level3 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 not responding to pings, DNS queries work I’m seeing some of the resolver IPs being filtering from various locations while responding from others, no doubt due to their use of anycast. I rarely ping te

Re: 400G link L2 flakiness over DWDM

2025-01-13 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/13/25 17:10, Tom Beecher wrote: This is a not uncommon bug on Ciena stuff. Thankfully it doesn't happen often and is a straightforward fix, although bouncing a card is obv not ideal in a lot of cases. Indeed. My Ciena contact responded. He will check with their support team on wh

Re: Level3 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 not responding to pings, DNS queries work

2025-01-13 Thread nanog--- via NANOG
packet loss, time 0ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.729/1.729/1.729/0.000 ms "cns1.wdc12" PING 4.2.2.6 (4.2.2.6) 56(84) bytes of data. --- 4.2.2.6 ping statistics --- 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.432/1.432/1.432/0.000 ms "cns4.sjo1”

Re: 400G link L2 flakiness over DWDM

2025-01-13 Thread Tom Beecher
> > One tantalizing > clue was another customer using Cisco Nexus had better results after > they enabled "link transmit reset-skip" > (https://quickview.cloudapps.cisco.com/quickview/bug/CSCvi45168). Not > clear exactly what that option does, and there doesn't seem to be an > obviously equivalent

Re: Apply Today for the ARIN 55 Fellowship Program

2025-01-13 Thread John Sweeting
done From: NANOG on behalf of John Sweeting Date: Monday, January 13, 2025 at 10:11 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Apply Today for the ARIN 55 Fellowship Program Hello NANOG, Please see the announcement below referencing ARIN's Fellowship Program. Thanks, John S. __

Re: 400G link L2 flakiness over DWDM

2025-01-13 Thread Tom Beecher
> > On Waveserver, the issue appears to be a software defect that appears > when certain ports are configured with both Ethernet and OTU4 profiles > for 400G services. Resolution is based on recreating the client service > or hard rebooting the line card. There is no mention of a software > upgrade

Re: 400G link L2 flakiness over DWDM

2025-01-13 Thread TJ Trout
Mark is the undisputed DWDM wizard! On Mon, Jan 13, 2025, 3:42 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > On 1/12/25 09:25, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > > This sounds like a Ciena-specific issue. > > > > I have found the below on their knowledge portal: > > > > > https://my.ciena.com/CienaPortal/s/article/6500-S

Re: Free pass NANOG

2025-01-13 Thread Tom Beecher
If NANOG has given you meeting passes that you aren't using, the best thing to do would be to contact the NANOG staff member that gave them to you and let them know you no longer need them. NANOG already has programs in place to assist students and others with meeting attendance. On Mon, Jan 13,

Re: Comcast looking glass router

2025-01-13 Thread Warren Kumari
… and it's back. Just to confirm, it is indeed user 'rviewsxr' with no password. $ ssh ssh://rview...@route-server.newyork.ny.ibone.comcast.net -o KexAlgorithms=diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 -m hmac-sha1 *

Re: Google Geo IP contact

2025-01-13 Thread Phineas Walton
You can make an account on https://isp.google.com and submit your geofeed there once they create your account. Takes a couple of days for your application to get processed. Best Phin 2025年1月13日(月) 23:37 Lou Devictoria : > Hi Nanog > > Is there anyone from Google who can help me correcting GeoIP

Re: 400G link L2 flakiness over DWDM

2025-01-13 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/12/25 09:25, Mark Tinka wrote: This sounds like a Ciena-specific issue. I have found the below on their knowledge portal: https://my.ciena.com/CienaPortal/s/article/6500-Submarine-How-to-clear-Loss-of-Alignment-Marker-alarm-on-M2M-port https://my.ciena.com/CienaPortal/s/article/W

Re: Level3 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 not responding to pings, DNS queries work

2025-01-12 Thread Pennington, Scott
oe Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Level3 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 not responding to pings, DNS queries work Still not pinging from Frontier, Lumen, AT&T, or Verizon networks -mel On Jan 12, 2025, at 4:13 PM, Jerry Cloe wrote:  O:\>ping 4.2.2.1 Pinging 4.2.2.1 with 32 bytes of dat

Re: Level3 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 not responding to pings, DNS queries work

2025-01-12 Thread Mel Beckman
Dan, Thanks! I had never read that before. But that makes sense. -mel On Jan 12, 2025, at 8:22 PM, Daniel Sterling wrote:  Seems like these IPs not responding to ping is not unusual, as per https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/11syv2e/google_dns__dropping_pings_like_crazy_today/

Re: Level3 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 not responding to pings, DNS queries work

2025-01-12 Thread Daniel Sterling
Seems like these IPs not responding to ping is not unusual, as per https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/11syv2e/google_dns__dropping_pings_like_crazy_today/ "Google has stated multiple times before as has Level3/CenturyLink/Lumen that 4.2.2.1 and 8.8.8.8 should not be used for ping check

Re: Level3 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 not responding to pings, DNS queries work

2025-01-12 Thread Tim Burke
6:24 PM To: Jerry Cloe Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Level3 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 not responding to pings, DNS queries work Still not pinging from Frontier, Lumen, AT&T, or Verizon networks -mel On Jan 12, 2025, at 4:13 PM, Jerry Cloe wrote:  O:\>ping 4.2.2.1 Pinging 4.2.2.1

Re: Level3 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 not responding to pings, DNS queries work

2025-01-12 Thread Mel Beckman
Still not pinging from Frontier, Lumen, AT&T, or Verizon networks -mel On Jan 12, 2025, at 4:13 PM, Jerry Cloe wrote:  O:\>ping 4.2.2.1 Pinging 4.2.2.1 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 4.2.2.1: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=56 Reply from 4.2.2.1: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=56 Reply from 4.2.2.1: byte

RE: Level3 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 not responding to pings, DNS queries work

2025-01-12 Thread Jerry Cloe
O:\>ping 4.2.2.1  Pinging 4.2.2.1 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 4.2.2.1: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=56 Reply from 4.2.2.1: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=56 Reply from 4.2.2.1: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=56 Reply from 4.2.2.1: bytes=32 time=38ms TTL=56  Ping statistics for 4.2.2.1:     Packets: Sent = 4, Recei

Re: BFD vs network brownouts

2025-01-12 Thread Tore Anderson
* Jason Iannone But the clever budget conscious among us have deployed router links over provided MPLS based L2 services as critical infrastructure. We have an invisible WAN. In the absence of L1 PM statistics, how do we validate service over other networks? 802.3ag and y.1731 attempt to answe

Re: 400G link L2 flakiness over DWDM

2025-01-11 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/10/25 21:57, Oliver Garraux wrote: We have a number of new 400G provider waves with odd flakiness that we can't seem to sort out. These links appear good - light levels are fine, links will be up with working LLDP. But if we admin down / up the link on the IP side, many of them won't

Re: CAIDA AS Rank

2025-01-11 Thread borg
keeping that stuff online. If it wont back online on Monday, I can try to contact them.. If you happen get some info from them please share (privately if necessary). -- Original message -- From: Aaron Atac To: Borg Cc: Nanog Subject: Re: CAIDA AS Rank Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 01:25:42

Re: HBO / MAX Geolocation Contact

2025-01-11 Thread Esteban Hernandez
Unfortunately The HBO email no longer works ... User unknown ESTEBAN HERNANDEZ | GERENTE IT https://lixer.mx/ El jue., 09 ene. 2025 22:25:44 -0700, Justin Wilson (Lists) escribió https://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/geo-an

Re: CAIDA AS Rank

2025-01-10 Thread Aaron Atac via NANOG
Has anyone reached out to them directly to ask what’s going on with the api? -Aaron Dec 18, 2024 at 3:36 PM by b...@uu3.net: > Okey, my appology. They front page is up, but their API is down. > I checked my frontend, but it gave me results from cache... > I tried fresh query and got error. > > >

Re: BFD vs network brownouts

2025-01-10 Thread Saku Ytti
On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 at 13:02, Jason Iannone wrote: > Saku speaks from the privileged position of an infrastructure owner. We > assume that interface connectivity is provided by L1 links, with OEO in > transit nodes as a worst case. > > But the clever budget conscious among us have deployed rout

Re: BFD vs network brownouts

2025-01-10 Thread Jason Iannone
Saku speaks from the privileged position of an infrastructure owner. We assume that interface connectivity is provided by L1 links, with OEO in transit nodes as a worst case. But the clever budget conscious among us have deployed router links over provided MPLS based L2 services as critical infras

Re: BFD vs network brownouts

2025-01-09 Thread Saku Ytti
On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 at 00:34, David Zimmerman via NANOG wrote: > Towards Saku's, Tore's, and Tom's comments about watching error counters, > I'll keep that in mind, though I expect I'll want to cover situations where > frames are simply lost rather than errored. For example (tapping into Alex'

Re: HBO / MAX Geolocation Contact

2025-01-09 Thread Justin Wilson (Lists)
https://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/geo-and-vpn Near the bottom is info on HBO max. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net — https://j2sw.com (AS399332) https://blog.j2sw.com - Podcast and Blog > On Jan 9, 2025, at 9:27 PM, Esteban Hernandez > wrote: > > Hello, > > Does anyone have contact inf

Re: BFD vs network brownouts

2025-01-09 Thread David Zimmerman via NANOG
Thanks for the feedback, Jason, Saku, Tore, Tom, and Alex. Agreed that trying to effectively brute force (mis)use of BFD as I described is misdirected. To some degree I'm trying to reinforce a "why this doesn't work" argument internally as part of a larger narrative. Thanks specifically to Ja

Re: BFD vs network brownouts

2025-01-09 Thread Alex Buie
> > it's there to detect *reachability* failure faster than protocols > themselves would do so Exactly this - we have some type 2 fiber transit circuits which are presumably connected to some sort of re-encoder or something, as we have had a few scenarios where the router at the

Re: BFD vs network brownouts

2025-01-09 Thread Tom Beecher
> > i, all. BFD is well known for what it brings to the table for improving > link failure detection; however, even at a reasonably athletic 300ms > Control rate, you're not going to catch a significant percentage of > brownout situations where you have packet loss but not a full outage. I'm > tr

Re: Comcast looking glass router

2025-01-09 Thread Warren Kumari
Quick update: I just spoke with someone at Comcast, and they let me know they have identified a problem with the authentication and are working to resolve it. W On Thu, Jan 09, 2025 at 1:11 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2025 at 10:41 AM, Christopher Morrow com> wrote: > >> On Thu

Re: Comcast looking glass router

2025-01-09 Thread Warren Kumari
On Thu, Jan 09, 2025 at 10:41 AM, Christopher Morrow < morrowc.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 9:29 AM Warren Kumari wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 08, 2025 at 3:35 PM, Paulo J Amaral wrote: > > Hi, hoping someone here from Comcast can help me. I need to be able to > login Comcast Looki

Re: Comcast looking glass router

2025-01-09 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 9:29 AM Warren Kumari wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 08, 2025 at 3:35 PM, Paulo J Amaral wrote: >> >> Hi, hoping someone here from Comcast can help me. I need to be able to login >> Comcast Looking Glass router in NY to check on some route advertising but >> the username

Re: Comcast looking glass router

2025-01-09 Thread Warren Kumari
On Wed, Jan 08, 2025 at 3:35 PM, Paulo J Amaral wrote: > Hi, hoping someone here from Comcast can help me. I need to be able to > login Comcast Looking Glass router in NY to check on some route advertising > but the username and password that was previously working for the LG no > longer seems t

Re: BFD vs network brownouts

2025-01-09 Thread Tore Anderson
* David Zimmerman Hi, all.  BFD is well known for what it brings to the table for improving link failure detection; however, even at a reasonably athletic 300ms Control rate, you're not going to catch a significant percentage of brownout situations where you have packet loss but not a full o

Re: BFD vs network brownouts

2025-01-08 Thread Saku Ytti
On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 at 00:23, David Zimmerman via NANOG wrote: > find any formal or semi-formal writing about quantification of BFD's > effectiveness. For example, my mental picture is a 3D graph where, for a > given Control rate and corresponding Detection Time, the X axis is percentage > of

Re: ACX6360-OX Question

2025-01-08 Thread Joel Busch via NANOG
I second the method Jared is suggesting, go hop-by-hop, check light levels, and make use of loopback modes to establish which partial sections may be working already. (If any loopback is available, I don't know your platform specifically) On 08.01.2025 22:19, Jared Mauch wrote: make s

Re: Comcast looking glass router

2025-01-08 Thread TJ Trout
BGP.tools super LG any help? They probably have a lot of feeder sessions sitting behind Comcast which could accomplish the mission? On Wed, Jan 8, 2025, 12:42 PM Paulo J Amaral via NANOG wrote: > Hi, hoping someone here from Comcast can help me. I need to be able to > login Comcast Looking Glass

Re: ACX6360-OX Question

2025-01-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/8/25 20:16, Josh Crowder wrote: Has anyone on this list configured a Juniper ACX6360-OX (transponder mode) in a metro passive DWDM setup? If so, would you be willing to look at a config and answer some questions? I'm attempting to get the following working: Router<-100G-Grey->ACX636

Re: BFD vs network brownouts

2025-01-08 Thread Jason Iannone
BFD is binary. Service OAM 802.3ag / ITU-T Y.1731 generates time series data that talks to service reliability and SLA. OAM offers interface shut and fault propagation as well, which means it's both an observability tool and an operational one. BFD is just not the thing for measuring the reliabilit

Re: ACX6360-OX Question

2025-01-08 Thread Jared Mauch
On Wed, Jan 08, 2025 at 11:16:47AM -0700, Josh Crowder wrote: >Has anyone on this list configured a Juniper ACX6360-OX (transponder mode) >in a metro passive DWDM setup? If so, would you be willing to look at a >config and answer some questions? I'm attempting to get the following >

Re: [Ext] Reminder: New KSK Publication in DNS Root Zone

2025-01-07 Thread Andres Pavez
Please note that there is a mistake with the time in my previous email. The new Key Signing Key (KSK) will be published in the DNS root zone on January 11 around 06:00 UTC, not 00:00 UTC as originally stated. Best regards, -- Andres Pavez Cryptographic Key Manager On 1/7/25, 11:59, "NANOG o

Re: APRICOT 2025: CfP - Reminder!

2025-01-06 Thread Mark Tinka
Greetings all, and a very Happy New Year! This is a gentle reminder to submit your presentation proposals for the upcoming APRICOT meeting in Kuala Lumpur as detailed below. We look forward to hearing from you. Mark. On 10/27/24 09:51, Mark Tinka wrote: Hello all. The APRICOT 2025 Programm

RE: New home builders without wires

2025-01-06 Thread Colin Stanners (lists)
ay choose not to get involved in such agreements to save time/money. -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Sean Donelan Sent: January 2, 2025 5:52 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: New home builders without wires On Mon, 30 Dec 2024, Brandon Martin wrote: > But yeah, I'm of

Re: New home builders without wires

2025-01-02 Thread Mike Hammett
2, 2025 5:51:45 PM Subject: Re: New home builders without wires On Mon, 30 Dec 2024, Brandon Martin wrote: > But yeah, I'm of the impression that anything we'd colloquially call a > "mansion" (which is much bigger than what the real estate agents would call > one)

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