Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-16 Thread Tom Beecher
> > I wonder if sat services like Starlink or Hughsnet are an option for > remote/rural towns in this kind of scenario. Perhaps the phones are > down but they could send IM/chat messages or emails or what have you. > Maybe time to unroll a spool of string and get some tin cans hooked up. Satellit

RE: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-16 Thread Colin Stanners (lists)
24 3:06 PM To: jo...@iecc.com; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue >> If it's landline copper phone, it's kind of hard for a provider to >> see the lack of customers off hook. The electrical circuit being >> open is > expected un

Re: POTS Characteristics Re: 202412151734.AYC Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-15 Thread Abraham Y. Chen
Hi, John: 0)    Allow me to share some old-fashioned telephony line-man tricks, kind of trade-secretes. 😉 1)     "Analog phones can not be detected unless they're off hook ...    ":     This is true only if your measurement capability is limited within the pure DC (Direct Current) domain. A

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-14 Thread Randy (K6RP)
I wonder if sat services like Starlink or Hughsnet are an option for remote/rural towns in this kind of scenario. Perhaps the phones are down but they could send IM/chat messages or emails or what have you. Maybe time to unroll a spool of string and get some tin cans hooked up. FWIW, I've used S

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread Justin Krejci
>> If it's landline copper phone, it's kind of hard for a provider to >> see the >> lack of customers off hook. The electrical circuit being open is > >> expected >> until the customer picks up the load/off hooks the phone. > > You might think that if nobody at all makes any calls for an hour or

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread John Levine
It appears that Josh Luthman said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >If it's landline copper phone, it's kind of hard for a provider to see the >lack of customers off hook. The electrical circuit being open is expected >until the customer picks up the load/off hooks the phone. You might think that if nobody at al

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Wouldn't there have to be an ILEC responsible for lifeline? I'm in Ohio, not Colorado, so that may be different entirely. On Thu, Dec 12, 2024, 11:28 AM John Neiberger wrote: > I've been gathering reports from people there. Two of the homes are > family members and they know of other homes and

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread John Neiberger
I've been gathering reports from people there. Two of the homes are family members and they know of other homes and businesses in the area who have been down for days, as well. I'm trying to gather more information. I want to compile a list of names and phone numbers so that I can include that in a

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread Josh Luthman
I understand it is frustrating. Analog phones can not be detected unless they're off hook so I don't see how a provider can detect between sitting idle or the cables cut. How do you know for certain it is an outage in the area and not just the customer(s) you've talked to? There is a requirement

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread Luke Guillory via NANOG
The state PSC would be my vote, they reach out asap on complaints from what I’ve seen locally here in LA. From: NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett Date: Thursday, December 12, 2024 at 9:58 AM To: John Neiberger Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett
: "Josh Luthman" Cc: "NANOG list" Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2024 9:52:57 AM Subject: Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue Understandable for a single customer. It sounds like this a huge part of the town that has no phones, including the rural folks who l

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread John Neiberger
Understandable for a single customer. It sounds like this a huge part of the town that has no phones, including the rural folks who live outside of cell coverage, many of whom are elderly. I just found out that they had indeed called CL to complain days ago and CL told them they couldn't get out th

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread Shawn L via NANOG
quot;NANOG list" Subject: Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue If it's landline copper phone, it's kind of hard for a provider to see the lack of customers off hook. The electrical circuit being open is expected until the customer picks up the load/off hooks

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread Josh Luthman
If it's landline copper phone, it's kind of hard for a provider to see the lack of customers off hook. The electrical circuit being open is expected until the customer picks up the load/off hooks the phone. On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 11:54 PM John Neiberger wrote: > Yep. I finally found some conta

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread Evan Moyer
I've run into the same thing with Lumen DIA's before. Multiple muni's out, port ops and everyone just assumed everyone else called. Sometimes all it takes a bit of coordinating. Glad you got someone to check it out. On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 8:54 PM John Neiberger wrote: > Yep. I finally found som

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread Evan Moyer
Have you tried filing a complaint with your state's public utility commission? POTS service is usually regulated by them. Just a thought On Wed, Dec 11, 2024, 7:52 PM John Neiberger wrote: > I apologize for using NANOG for this, but I need to get some traction > on a telephone outage affecting

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-11 Thread John Neiberger
Yep. I finally found some contacts at Lumen who ran it up the chain. I also did report it to the Colorado PUC. I'm still confused about how so many homes and businesses could be without service and Centurylink wouldn't know about it. It's a small town, and I'm starting to think everyone thought tha

Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-11 Thread John Neiberger
I apologize for using NANOG for this, but I need to get some traction on a telephone outage affecting a large number of homes in a small town that Centurylink seems to be unaware of. The affected customers have had no phone service for days and none of them know what's going on. Centurylink custome