Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-13 Thread Joel Jaeggli
fwiw we have v6 transit from internap in metro atlanta. setup was drama-free. up until about 6 months ago it was offered on a non-production basis and only as a tunnel, now it's dual stacked to our customer edge. joel On 2/4/11 7:05 AM, Scott Helms wrote: > We have been working diligently for mor

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-11 Thread Matthew Petach
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > I'll start.. > > Hurricane Electric      Happily and readily provided me IPv6 Transit on > request. > Layer42                         Happily and readily provided me IPv6 Transit > on request. > > Owen I'll second that--I've had native v6 con

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-11 Thread Matthew Petach
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Peter Lothberg wrote: ... > (My mother has had IPv6 since 2007, and she lives in the boonies!) Just now catching up...and don't take this wrong way, Peter, but your mother has more bandwidth and better connectivity than many countries (and some continents!) do. :-

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-10 Thread david raistrick
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, david raistrick wrote: Amazon AWS - "No." But I'm asking again, that's a few months old. To follow up on this: "We are investigating IP v6 but, unfortunately, have no plans that are available for sharing at present" -- david raistrickhttp://www.netmeister.o

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-10 Thread Owen DeLong
On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:50 AM, TR Shaw wrote: > > On Feb 10, 2011, at 1:26 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > >> The problem is conversations like this: >> >> AT&T Customer Service: "AT&T uVerse, how can I help you?" >> >> Customer: "Yes, I have uVerse service and I'd like to get IPv6." >> >> AT&T Custo

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-10 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 2/10/11 7:42 AM, TR Shaw wrote: > On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote: > >> T-mobile USA has a nationwide ipv6 beta. You can google it. >> Regarding iphone, its more an iPhone issue than anything else >> > Nope its ATT. My iPhone works fine on IPv6. I connect wifi at home > and c

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-10 Thread TR Shaw
On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote: > T-mobile USA has a nationwide ipv6 beta. You can google it. Regarding iphone, > its more an iPhone issue than anything else > Nope its ATT. My iPhone works fine on IPv6. I connect wifi at home and can go anywhere but on on ATT wireless. Tom

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-10 Thread TR Shaw
On Feb 10, 2011, at 1:26 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > The problem is conversations like this: > > AT&T Customer Service: "AT&T uVerse, how can I help you?" > > Customer: "Yes, I have uVerse service and I'd like to get IPv6." > > AT&T Customer Service: "I pea vee what? Is this a prank call?" > > O

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-10 Thread TR Shaw
age- > From: Cutler James R [mailto:james.cut...@consultant.com] > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 5:00 PM > To: NANOG list > Subject: Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6 > > All this talk about CPE is wasted until folks like ATT have someone on the > retail interface

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-09 Thread Owen DeLong
Cutler James R [mailto:james.cut...@consultant.com] > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 5:00 PM > To: NANOG list > Subject: Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6 > > All this talk about CPE is wasted until folks like ATT have someone on the > retail interface (store, phone

RE: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-09 Thread Frank Bulk
ebruary 07, 2011 5:00 PM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6 All this talk about CPE is wasted until folks like ATT have someone on the retail interface (store, phone, or, web) who even knows what is this "IPv6" thing. Exploring this issue with DSL provider

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-07 Thread Cutler James R
All this talk about CPE is wasted until folks like ATT have someone on the retail interface (store, phone, or, web) who even knows what is this "IPv6" thing. Exploring this issue with DSL providers and Uverse is like that old exercise with combat boots. It feels much better when I stop. James

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-07 Thread Blake Hudson
Original Message Subject: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6 From: Franck Martin To: nanog@nanog.org Date: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:04:14 PM > The biggest complaint that I hear from ISPs, is that their upstream ISP does > not support IPv6 or will not provide the

RE: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-05 Thread Frank Bulk
Here's a chart: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_IPv6_support_by_major_transit_providers Frank -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen [mailto:se...@rollernet.us] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 12:16 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-04 Thread Jack Bates
On 2/4/2011 7:17 PM, Anthony Pardini wrote: how do the routes they offer compare? Speaking generically, everyone's routes suck. It's also not a fully fair comparison of reachability. You can see my network from HE and Level3, but if see me through Level3 without the use of a tunnel, it is pro

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-04 Thread Anthony Pardini
how do the routes they offer compare? On Feb 4, 2011 2:38 PM, "chip" wrote: > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Ryan Wilkins wrote: IPv6 from both of my upstream providers has been "coming soon" for about a year and a half. >> >> I'm getting ready to try to enable IPv6 natively with Above.net

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-04 Thread Owen DeLong
I'll start.. Hurricane Electric Happily and readily provided me IPv6 Transit on request. Layer42 Happily and readily provided me IPv6 Transit on request. Owen Disclaimer: While I work at HE, I'm speaking for my house, AS1734 in this case. On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:15 A

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-04 Thread chip
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: > > On Feb 4, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote: > >> >>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Ryan Wilkins >>> wrote: >> IPv6 from both of my upstream providers has been "coming soon" for >> about a year and a half. I'm gettin

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-04 Thread Jared Mauch
On Feb 4, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Ryan Wilkins >> wrote: > IPv6 from both of my upstream providers has been "coming soon" for > about a year and a half. >>> >>> I'm getting ready to try to enable IPv6 natively with Above.net in >>>

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-04 Thread Randy Carpenter
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Ryan Wilkins > wrote: > >>> IPv6 from both of my upstream providers has been "coming soon" for > >>> about a year and a half. > > > > I'm getting ready to try to enable IPv6 natively with Above.net in > > the Chicago area. Has anyone had any experience with them?

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-04 Thread chip
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Ryan Wilkins wrote: >>> IPv6 from both of my upstream providers has been "coming soon" for about a >>> year and a half. > > I'm getting ready to try to enable IPv6 natively with Above.net in the > Chicago area.  Has anyone had any experience with them? > > Thanks,

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-04 Thread Ryan Wilkins
>> IPv6 from both of my upstream providers has been "coming soon" for about a >> year and a half. I'm getting ready to try to enable IPv6 natively with Above.net in the Chicago area. Has anyone had any experience with them? Thanks, Ryan Wilkins

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-04 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/4/2011 07:05, Scott Helms wrote: > > TLDR version, marketing often fails to reflect reality :) > My experience with trying to get a circuit turned up with Verizon boiled down to two things: 1) Failure to meet the standards of my existing IPv6 connections in carrying PI /48 (apparently now

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-04 Thread david raistrick
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011, Randy Carpenter wrote: IPv6 from both of my upstream providers has been "coming soon" for about a year and a half. Can we start naming names and locations for both sides of the answer? My last v6 queries are a few years out of date, so no point in sharing them. Well, I

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-04 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/4/2011 06:13, Jack Bates wrote: > > I waited years and finally turned up a transit to L3 for additional > bandwidth (had to wait for GE support from the other 2, of which 1 still > can't give me a GE) and luckily native v6. Within 30 days I should have > a cogent 10G, and I hear I'll get v6 t

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-04 Thread Scott Helms
We have been working diligently for more than 6 months to try and get a /56 routed to one of our offices in metro Atlanta. The carrier in question is a Tier 1 as well as being one of the old telecom names. I have the entire chain of emails documenting the carrier's struggles with internal pro

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-04 Thread Jack Bates
On 2/3/2011 9:54 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote: The major national provider is supposed to be swapping out equipment any day now in order to support IPv6. The regional is claiming that their upstreams do not have IPv6 support yet. Their upstream providers certainly do have IPv6, but I do not know i

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-04 Thread Vesna Manojlovic
Hi Franck, On 2/4/11 4:04 AM, Franck Martin wrote: The biggest complaint that I hear from ISPs, is that their upstream ISP does not support IPv6 or will not provide them with a native IPv6 circuit. Is that bull? I thought the whole backbone is IPv6 now, and it is only the residential ISPs that

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-03 Thread Peter Lothberg
> So it was far from simply adding v6 to our existing circuit(s) and another > BGP session. It has taken months. You don't need a new BGP session to turn on IPv6, you just need to enable IPv6 NLRI on your V4 session.. So, in theory your upstream can enable IPv6 on their side and then wait unti

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-03 Thread Randy Carpenter
IPv6 from both of my upstream providers has been "coming soon" for about a year and a half. One is a very major national provider, one is a regional which is connected to numerous national carriers. The major national provider is supposed to be swapping out equipment any day now in order to s

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-03 Thread Brandon Applegate
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, Franck Martin wrote: The biggest complaint that I hear from ISPs, is that their upstream ISP does not support IPv6 or will not provide them with a native IPv6 circuit. Is that bull? I thought the whole backbone is IPv6 now, and it is only the residential ISPs that are sti

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: > On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, Franck Martin wrote: > >> The biggest complaint that I hear from ISPs, is that their upstream ISP >> does not support IPv6 or will not provide them with a native IPv6 circuit. > > I know of a few regional ISPs that don

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-03 Thread Paul Graydon
On 02/03/2011 05:04 PM, Franck Martin wrote: The biggest complaint that I hear from ISPs, is that their upstream ISP does not support IPv6 or will not provide them with a native IPv6 circuit. Is that bull? I thought the whole backbone is IPv6 now, and it is only the residential ISPs that are

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-03 Thread Jared Mauch
On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:04 PM, Franck Martin wrote: > The biggest complaint that I hear from ISPs, is that their upstream ISP does > not support IPv6 or will not provide them with a native IPv6 circuit. > > Is that bull? > > I thought the whole backbone is IPv6 now, and it is only the resident

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-03 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, Franck Martin wrote: The biggest complaint that I hear from ISPs, is that their upstream ISP does not support IPv6 or will not provide them with a native IPv6 circuit. I know of a few regional ISPs that don't (yet) support IPv6. As far as carriers go, some seem to support

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-03 Thread Richard Barnes
This seems ironic, given the number of ISPs I've heard say "There's no customer demand." --Richard On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Franck Martin wrote: > The biggest complaint that I hear from ISPs, is that their upstream ISP does > not support IPv6 or will not provide them with a native IPv6

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-03 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Franck Martin wrote: > Where can I get more information? There's some survey data related to this topic presented in the latest Worldwide Infrastructure Security Report, available at . -

My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-03 Thread Franck Martin
The biggest complaint that I hear from ISPs, is that their upstream ISP does not support IPv6 or will not provide them with a native IPv6 circuit. Is that bull? I thought the whole backbone is IPv6 now, and it is only the residential ISPs that are still figuring it out because CPE are still n