Re: [routing-wg] The Cidr Report

Ditto, and I do find it informative. Jim On Oct 15, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Kyle Creyts wrote: > I may not read it for the purpose of aggregation, but it is useful data to > me for other purposes. > > As long as there is one person talking and at least one person listening, a > thread is in order,

[routing-wg] The Cidr Report

I may not read it for the purpose of aggregation, but it is useful data to me for other purposes. As long as there is one person talking and at least one person listening, a thread is in order, and it isn't spam. On Oct 15, 2011 3:25 PM, "Geoff Huston" wrote: > From what I learned at the latest

Re: [routing-wg] BGP Update Report

> BUT, I get some 5 or 6 copies of them from all the lists I am on. I > would rather subscribe to a list that was just for those. procmail is your friend # prevent dupes # :0 Whc: msgid.lock | formail -D 65536 msgid.cache :0 a:0 $TRASH

Re: [routing-wg] BGP Update Report

On 10/15/2011 10:48 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote: > I read them all too. > > BUT, I get some 5 or 6 copies of them from all the lists I am on. I would > rather subscribe to a list that was just for those. +1. Or an rss feed or something. That way interested folks could easily pull the data and stay

Re: [routing-wg] BGP Update Report

I agree with Skeeve that it hits a number of lists, but I think that is a good thing and is of value. I agree with others who have said that there is any amount of worthless noise on lists and we can just filter if not required. Personally iirc, it was this content that led me to find Geoff's

Re: [routing-wg] BGP Update Report

John, Bit hard for Geoff to devnull them, he is the author ;-) …Skeeve -- Skeeve Stevens, CEO - eintellego Pty Ltd ske...@eintellego.net ; www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383 ; Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eint

Re: [routing-wg] BGP Update Report

I read them all too. BUT, I get some 5 or 6 copies of them from all the lists I am on. I would rather subscribe to a list that was just for those. …Skeeve -- Skeeve Stevens, CEO - eintellego Pty Ltd ske...@eintellego.net ; www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383

Re: [Nanog] Ballot Confirmation

On 10/15/11 11:21 PM, "Randy Epstein" wrote: >Betty, > >I believe there was a problem with the voting system this past election. >Proposed amendment 1, which I voted NO on, did not register. It does not >show a vote in the ballot confirmation email (well, it just doesn't say >what I did), but

Re: 13 years ago today - October 16, 1998...

- Original Message - > From: "Rodney Joffe" > Subject: 13 years ago today - October 16, 1998... > we lost Jon. > > It feels like just yesterday. > > http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2468.html My path didn't cross Jon's much... but he was nice enough to reserve the really cool RFC number

Re: 13 years ago today - October 16, 1998...

Yes..and we all owe him a debt of gratitude. --- On Sat, 10/15/11, Rodney Joffe wrote: > From: Rodney Joffe > Subject: 13 years ago today - October 16, 1998... > To: nanog@nanog.org > Date: Saturday, October 15, 2011, 7:14 PM > we lost Jon. > > It feels like just yesterday. > > http://www.app

13 years ago today - October 16, 1998...

we lost Jon. It feels like just yesterday. http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2468.html

Re: Apple updates - Akamai effect

On Oct 15, 2011, at 20:06, J wrote: > Simon Leinen wrote: >> Guess it was a good idea to upgrade that Akamai cluster's uplink to >> 10GE, even though 2*GE (or was it 4*GE) looked sufficient at the time. >> Remember folks, "overprovisioning" is a misnomer, it should be called >> "provisioning for

Re: [routing-wg] The Cidr Report

those who read it and follow routing best practicez will continue to do those, those who havent yet given a shit wont get a sudden dose of exlax after seeing their asn in it. --srs (iPad) On 16-Oct-2011, at 5:47, "joe...@bogus.com" wrote: > I read it every week. It's a finger on the pulse of

Re: [routing-wg] The Cidr Report

> I read it every week. It's a finger on the pulse of a system on which > I am totally dependent... the email i want to see here is "i wuz a polluter, but i read the cidr report, i haz seen the light, and i'm gonna stop polluting." no, i am not holding my breath. randy

Re: OT: ISPs in Brazil and Chile (Luis Palma)

- Original Message - > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:35:35 + > From: Jeff Cartier > To: "nanog@nanog.org" > Subject: OT: ISPs in Brazil and Chile > Message-ID: > > <6EDE133FF50DBA4B963028BD5CD690DD368B24@CAPRGWLKWEMBX1.pernod-ricard.group> > > Content-Type: text/plain; chars

Re: [routing-wg] The Cidr Report

I read it every week. It's a finger on the pulse of a system on which I am totally dependent... Geoff Huston wrote: >Does anyone give a s**t about this any more? > >From what I learned at the latest NANOG it's very clear that nobody reads this >any more. > >Is there any good reason to persist

Re: Apple updates - Akamai effect

Simon Leinen wrote: > > > Guess it was a good idea to upgrade that Akamai cluster's uplink to > 10GE, even though 2*GE (or was it 4*GE) looked sufficient at the time. > Remember folks, "overprovisioning" is a misnomer, it sho

Re: Please change Mailman back to NOT force the rewrite for Reply-to

On 10/15/2011 3:23 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: "Lynda" I see that someone has instructed Mailman to munge the reply-to. Please don't do that. I was about to make a *private* reply to someone, and realized that the setting had changed, and that I was trapped into

Re: Please change Mailman back to NOT force the rewrite for Reply-to

- Original Message - > From: "Lynda" > I see that someone has instructed Mailman to munge the reply-to. > Please don't do that. I was about to make a *private* reply to someone, and > realized that the setting had changed, and that I was trapped into > replying to the list. It's you, Lyn

Re: Please change Mailman back to NOT force the rewrite for Reply-to

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 23:17:58 +0200 Phil Regnauld wrote: > John Peach (john-nanog) writes: > > > Normally I'd have just made this point privately, and perhaps only on > > > Futures, but since it seems to be a recent change, I'm doing the public > > > service of pointing it out, while asking that

Re: Please change Mailman back to NOT force the rewrite for Reply-to

Patrick W. Gilmore (patrick) writes: > > Yes, he said he set reply-to himself. Look at your own post, it has no such > header. Glenn Sieb (ges) writes: > > I think you missed John's last sentence, Phil... *sigh* back to the coffee machine. P.

Re: [routing-wg] The Cidr Report

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011, Simon Leinen wrote: Ditto here. -Hank Geoff Huston writes: Does anyone give a s**t about this any more? I do; I check the weekly increase every week, and check who the top offenders are. If someone from my vicinity/circles is on the list (doesn't happen frequently; mor

Re: Please change Mailman back to NOT force the rewrite for Reply-to

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/15/11 5:17 PM, Phil Regnauld wrote: > John Peach (john-nanog) writes: >>> Normally I'd have just made this point privately, and perhaps >>> only on Futures, but since it seems to be a recent change, I'm >>> doing the public service of pointing it

Re: Please change Mailman back to NOT force the rewrite for Reply-to

On Oct 15, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Phil Regnauld wrote: > John Peach (john-nanog) writes: >>> Normally I'd have just made this point privately, and perhaps only on >>> Futures, but since it seems to be a recent change, I'm doing the public >>> service of pointing it out, while asking that it be adjuste

Re: Please change Mailman back to NOT force the rewrite for Reply-to

John Peach (john-nanog) writes: > > Normally I'd have just made this point privately, and perhaps only on > > Futures, but since it seems to be a recent change, I'm doing the public > > service of pointing it out, while asking that it be adjusted back. > > I don't see that; I have to specificall

Re: Please change Mailman back to NOT force the rewrite for Reply-to

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:51:55 -0700 Lynda wrote: > > I see that someone has instructed Mailman to munge the reply-to. Please > don't do that. I was about to make a *private* reply to someone, and > realized that the setting had changed, and that I was trapped into > replying to the list. > >

Re: [routing-wg] The Cidr Report

Geoff Huston writes: > Does anyone give a s**t about this any more? I do; I check the weekly increase every week, and check who the top offenders are. If someone from my vicinity/circles is on the list (doesn't happen frequently; more often for the BGP updates report than for CIDR), I may send th

Re: [routing-wg] BGP Update Report

+1 good to get a view from multiple sources even if they are automated. Should be easy enough to filter for those that do not want them. 2011/10/15 William F. Maton Sotomayor > On Sat, 15 Oct 2011, Lynda wrote: > > On 10/15/2011 4:26 AM, Geoff Huston wrote: >> >>> While I am at it, does anyon

Please change Mailman back to NOT force the rewrite for Reply-to

I see that someone has instructed Mailman to munge the reply-to. Please don't do that. I was about to make a *private* reply to someone, and realized that the setting had changed, and that I was trapped into replying to the list. Normally I'd have just made this point privately, and perhaps

Re: Apple updates - Effect on network

Matt Taylor writes: > Would love to see some bandwidth graphs. :) Here's one from another network. <>Guess it was a good idea to upgrade that Akamai cluster's uplink to 10GE, even though 2*GE (or was it 4*GE) looked sufficient at the time. Remember folks, "overprovisioning" is a misnomer, it shoul

Re: [routing-wg] The Cidr Report

On Oct 15, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> From what I learned at the latest NANOG it's very clear that nobody >> reads this any more. > > some read it. we are the frustrated ones. Some read it. I think everyone on NANOG is frustrated (or not paying attention). I would suggest that yo

Re: [routing-wg] BGP Update Report

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011, Lynda wrote: On 10/15/2011 4:26 AM, Geoff Huston wrote: While I am at it, does anyone read this report, or is this weekly report also just part of the spam load on this list? I read both of them, and also the Weekly Routing Report. I will regret the loss, and consider al

Re: [routing-wg] BGP Update Report

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 22:26:36 +1100 Geoff Huston wrote: > While I am at it, does anyone read this report, or is this weekly report also > just part of the spam load on this list? If you don't want them, filter them to /dev/null. > > regards, >Geoff -- John

Re: [routing-wg] BGP Update Report

On 10/15/2011 4:26 AM, Geoff Huston wrote: While I am at it, does anyone read this report, or is this weekly report also just part of the spam load on this list? I read both of them, and also the Weekly Routing Report. I will regret the loss, and consider all three to be far more valuable tha

Re: [routing-wg] The Cidr Report

> From what I learned at the latest NANOG it's very clear that nobody > reads this any more. some read it. we are the frustrated ones. no one seems to act on it. > Is there any good reason to persist in spamming the nanog list with > this report? not clear, sad to say. i really think that the

Re: [routing-wg] The Cidr Report

Does anyone give a s**t about this any more? From what I learned at the latest NANOG it's very clear that nobody reads this any more. Is there any good reason to persist in spamming the nanog list with this report? thanks, Geoff

Re: [routing-wg] BGP Update Report

While I am at it, does anyone read this report, or is this weekly report also just part of the spam load on this list? regards, Geoff

Re: [routing-wg] The Cidr Report

From what I learned at the latest NANOG it's very clear that nobody reads this any more. Is there any good reason to persist in spamming the nanog list with this report? thanks, Geoff

Re: Weekly Routing Table Report

On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, ML wrote: On 10/14/2011 03:21 PM, Routing Analysis Role Account wrote: List of Unregistered Origin ASNs (Global) - Maybe I'm just not in the know on this but if these prefixes/ASes shouldn't be seen on the internet, shouldn't there

RE: [OT] Overture's Ethernet over bonded Copper products

We've used them extensively in our network for years (we have about 2,600 of them in the network). They actually used to be Ceterus devices (it's possible that Hatteras merged with Ceterus or something, but I'm not up on my vendor acquisition current events). We mostly use the UTS 810 and UTS

Re: How Skype uses the network [was: News item: Blackberry services down worldwide]

Howdy, On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > > On Oct 13, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote: > > On 10/13/11 3:30 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > >> In fact, Skype, just as a for instance, is worse on hotel wifi as > >> launching the app on a laptop makes you a middl