Re: Wish about mutt's file browser

2002-02-06 Thread David T-G
John, et al -- ...and then John Buttery said... % ... % Anyway, without getting into a technical discussion about locale % settings and GNU ls...if you want ls to sort stuff "the old way", put % this into your shell startup file: How about, still without getting into a technical discussion, a

selective deletion old mailboxes

2002-02-06 Thread Erik van der Meulen
Dear all - I would like to see if the following would be possible: Currently I clean up my mail folders from old posts by having: folder-hook mutt.incoming "push 'D~d >14d\n'" entries in .muttrc. I would like to add a feature so that messages which are flagged 'important' with the SHIFT-f key

Re: selective deletion old mailboxes

2002-02-06 Thread David T-G
Erik -- ...and then Erik van der Meulen said... % % Dear all - I would like to see if the following would be possible: % % Currently I clean up my mail folders from old posts by having: % % folder-hook mutt.incoming "push 'D~d >14d\n'" % % entries in .muttrc. I would like to add a feature s

Re: Wish about mutt's file browser

2002-02-06 Thread John Buttery
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 06:58:10AM -0500, David T-G wrote: >John, et al -- > >...and then John Buttery said... >% >... >% Anyway, without getting into a technical discussion about locale >% settings and GNU ls...if you want ls to sort stuff "the old way", put >% this into your shell startup fil

Re: Sorting in mailbox question

2002-02-06 Thread Christian Ordig
On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 02:40:48PM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > I guess what I'm looking for is a way to sort by thread/subject/date > rather than just thread/subject. It doesn't look like I can use sort > and sort_aux to do this. Anyone have a suggestion for some other way to > accomplish

Re: Sorting in mailbox question

2002-02-06 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Feb 06, Christian Ordig [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 02:40:48PM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > > I guess what I'm looking for is a way to sort by thread/subject/date > > rather than just thread/subject. It doesn't look like I can use sort > > and sort_aux to do this.

slackware term question

2002-02-06 Thread Dale Morris
I've changed over from Redhat 7.2 to Slackware 8.0. In slack I'm using the standard kernel 2.2.19. I'm using mutt 1.2.1-1 and a modified .muttrc from Roland Rosenfeld site. It worked fine in Redhat but in slack I have a problem. In X, I don't have any color in mutt. Yet from the console the color

Re: Wish about mutt's file browser

2002-02-06 Thread David T-G
John -- ...and then John Buttery said... % % On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 06:58:10AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % > ... % >where to learn about how to play with LC_COLLATE to make ls do different ... % % There is WAY more information than any sane person would ever want % to see about locale environm

Re: slackware term question

2002-02-06 Thread Mike Schiraldi
What's your $TERM? And does your $MAIL point to your spool? msg24228/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Sorting in mailbox question

2002-02-06 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > > I guess what I'm looking for is a way to sort by thread/subject/date > > > rather than just thread/subject. It doesn't look like I can use sort > > > and sort_aux to do this. Anyone have a suggestion for some other way to > > > accomplish this (other than just using procmail to put these t

Re: slackware term question

2002-02-06 Thread Dale Morris
Hi Mike! On Wed, 06 Feb 2002, Mike Schiraldi wrote: > What's your $TERM? And does your $MAIL point to your spool? dlm@lymond:~$ echo $TERM xterm dlm@lymond:~$ echo $MAIL /var/spool/mail/dlm looks like it's ok..

Re: slackware term question

2002-02-06 Thread Thomas E. Dickey
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Dale Morris wrote: > I've changed over from Redhat 7.2 to Slackware 8.0. In slack > I'm using the standard kernel 2.2.19. I'm using mutt 1.2.1-1 > and a modified .muttrc from Roland Rosenfeld site. It worked > fine in Redhat but in slack I have a problem. "xterm" normally doe

Re: slackware term question

2002-02-06 Thread Mike Schiraldi
> dlm@lymond:~$ echo $MAIL > /var/spool/mail/dlm > > looks like it's ok.. Well, what "mailbox checking feature" were you specifically referring to? Mutt's command? -- Mike Schiraldi VeriSign Applied Research msg24232/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Sorting in mailbox question

2002-02-06 Thread Christian Ordig
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 10:25:43AM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: >sort=thread >sort_aux=subject >sort_aux2=date > > implying a fixed number of sort criteria, just more than are > available now. Second: > >sort=thread/subject/date > > implying an arbitrary number of sort crite

Re: Sorting in mailbox question

2002-02-06 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> I think a fixed maximum number would be easier to handle the question > is just _which_ number this should be. Imagine a mixture of your and > my scenery ... this could result in something like: > sort=thread > sort_aux=score > sort_aux2=subject > sort_aux3=date > > or > > sort=thread/score/s

Re: Sorting in mailbox question

2002-02-06 Thread Mike Schiraldi
> is just _which_ number this should be. Imagine a mixture of your and > my scenery ... this could result in something like: > sort=thread > sort_aux=score > sort_aux2=subject > sort_aux3=date No, no, that syntax is all wrong. I suggest sort=thread sort_aux=score sort_aux_aux=subject sort_aux_a

Re: Sorting in mailbox question

2002-02-06 Thread Volker Moell
> On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 10:25:43AM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > > > >sort=thread/subject/date Aside from the (IMHO good) sense of the multiple sort fields just one comment to the original poster. Even if implemented, I think your problem wouldn't be solved. When sorting by "thread/su

Re: Sorting in mailbox question

2002-02-06 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Aside from the (IMHO good) sense of the multiple sort fields just one > comment to the original poster. Even if implemented, I think your > problem wouldn't be solved. > > When sorting by "thread/subject/date" the subject has to be the same for > sub-sorting by date. But in your case the subje

Index format

2002-02-06 Thread Patrick Colbeck
Hi I am trying to use a folder hook to change the index format. I want my sent mail typpe folders to display who the mail was sent to rather than who it was from (seeing as I know I wgho sent it if its in my sent mail ...) Unfortunately I cannot get mutt to recognise the folder hook, no errors a

Re: Sorting in mailbox question

2002-02-06 Thread Daniel Eisenbud
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 05:53:07PM +0100, Christian Ordig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 10:25:43AM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > >sort=thread > >sort_aux=subject > >sort_aux2=date > > > > implying a fixed number of sort criteria, just more than are > > avail

Re: Sorting in mailbox question

2002-02-06 Thread Daniel Eisenbud
I've been planning to do this for a while. It seems to me that the only time that more than two levels of sorting is useful is when the first level is threads. If anyone can give me a plausible scenario where they'd want more than three, or more than two unthreaded, I'll think about my approach.

Re: Sorting in mailbox question

2002-02-06 Thread Daniel Eisenbud
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 10:25:43AM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which is more likely to be implemented? (I'm thinking there must have > been a reason for only allowing two criteria in the first place, and it > might have been to avoid the complexity of dealing with an ar

Re: Sorting in mailbox question

2002-02-06 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> threads=forward > threads=reverse > or > threads=off > > and then sort and sort_aux are what's used for secondary and tertiary > sorting, or primary and secondary if threads=off. Make sense to people? I agree, and that would work for me. KEN msg24242/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signatur

Re: Sorting in mailbox question

2002-02-06 Thread darren chamberlain
Daniel Eisenbud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something to this effect on 02/06/2002: > I've been planning to do this for a while. > > It seems to me that the only time that more than two levels of > sorting is useful is when the first level is threads. If > anyone can give me a plausible scenario w

Re: Sorting in mailbox question

2002-02-06 Thread Daniel Eisenbud
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 01:31:55PM -0500, darren chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel Eisenbud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something to this effect on >02/06/2002: > > I've been planning to do this for a while. > > > > It seems to me that the only time that more than two levels of > > s

Re: mutt failing to send message

2002-02-06 Thread Daniel Eisenbud
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 02:49:31PM -0500, Rick Janka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm new to mutt, so if this post violates existing protocol or is in > the wrong group, no doubt I will be notified quickly. mutt-users is actually a more appropriate list in this case, so I'm cc'ing this there. [.

Re: Sorting in mailbox question

2002-02-06 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Feb 06, Daniel Eisenbud [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > I've been planning to do this for a while. > > It seems to me that the only time that more than two levels of sorting > is useful is when the first level is threads. If anyone can give me a > plausible scenario where they'd want more than t

fcc-save-hook settings

2002-02-06 Thread David T-G
Hi, all -- I have some hooks that set the fcc to a particular directory so that folks from one location (church or work or school or whatnot) are stored in their own directory. They look, for instance, like fcc-save-hook 'pattern|dave|pattern' =D.D/dir1/%_%O fcc-save-hook 'pattern|sue|patt

Re: Sorting in mailbox question

2002-02-06 Thread Daniel Eisenbud
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 02:20:34PM -0600, Jeremy Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 06, Daniel Eisenbud [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > I've been planning to do this for a while. > > > > It seems to me that the only time that more than two levels of sorting > > is useful is when the firs

Re: Sorting in mailbox question

2002-02-06 Thread Christian Ordig
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 12:10:34PM -0500, Mike Schiraldi wrote: > I suggest > sort=thread > sort_aux=score > sort_aux_aux=subject > sort_aux_aux_aux=date > sort_aux_aux_aux_aux=... *g* that was also my first intension ... but _who_ the hell should count all the _aux ? :-)) -- Christian Ordig Ge

Re: Sorting in mailbox question

2002-02-06 Thread Christian Ordig
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 01:13:13PM -0500, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: > and then sort and sort_aux are what's used for secondary and tertiary > sorting, or primary and secondary if threads=off. Make sense to people? I think it would do it. (at least for me :-) -- Christian Ordig Germany

Re: Index format

2002-02-06 Thread John P Verel
My experience with hooks is that if you have to set specific mailbox hooks BEFORE setting a default. Try changing the order of the hooks so that the default comes after all the others. My o/s and version are as above. John On 02/06/02, 05:36:23PM +, Patrick Colbeck wrote: > Hi > > Unfortu

Re: slackware term question SOLVED

2002-02-06 Thread Dale Morris
On Wed, 06 Feb 2002, Dale Morris wrote: > In X, I don't have any color in mutt. Yet from the console > the colors are fine. Also my mailbox checking feature that > tells me if I have new mail doesn't work in either X or the > console. Any suggestions I have color in my xterm now, only thing is, I

Mailbox is read-only.

2002-02-06 Thread Terence Ng
Hi! I have just set up my mail server using postfix. Then I read the mail by using Mutt. After I read the mails and want to delete it, I press 'd' or '^d'. But, I got 'Mailbox is read-only' message. Why? I have checked the permission by typing: ls -ld /var/spool/mail/ngterry and I get: -

Breaking News: Lusers _want_ to quote email replies The Right Way.

2002-02-06 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
I just got an email from a nondescript luser asking how I put my replies after the quote, The Right Way. She uses LookOut, of course, and doesn't like the default quote style that it uses. She says that the way I do it is "so cool". I'm going to turn this into another reason why she ought to be u

Re: Breaking News: Lusers _want_ to quote email replies The Right Way.

2002-02-06 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Feb 06, Rob 'Feztaa' Park [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > I just got an email from a nondescript luser asking how I put my replies > after the quote, The Right Way. She uses LookOut, of course, and doesn't > like the default quote style that it uses. She says that the way I do it > is "so cool". >

Re: Breaking News: Lusers _want_ to quote email replies The Right Way.

2002-02-06 Thread Ken Weingold
On Wed, Feb 6, 2002, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > I just got an email from a nondescript luser asking how I put my replies > after the quote, The Right Way. She uses LookOut, of course, and doesn't > like the default quote style that it uses. She says that the way I do it > is "so cool". > > I'm g

Re: Breaking News: Lusers _want_ to quote email replies The Right Way.

2002-02-06 Thread Brian Clark
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 07. 2002 00:11]: [...] > or lusers stubbornly refusing to do anything resembling intelligent > behavior? Have you taken a good look at php-general lately? Someone let the flood gates down. -- Brian Clark | Unable to leap tall buildings in a sing

Re: Breaking News: Lusers _want_ to quote email replies The Right Way.

2002-02-06 Thread Ken Weingold
On Wed, Feb 6, 2002, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > Don't know to change or even if they do, can't really. If I started > quoting the right way at work, it would confuse people to no end... they > wouldn't know where to find my response inside of Outlook's awful message > display interface (marking rep

Re: Breaking News: Lusers _want_ to quote email replies The Right Way.

2002-02-06 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
--Uwl7UQhJk99r8jnw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Ken Weingold spake thus: > Well first you need to get the new O'Reilly book: > . =20 ROFL, I want that book ;) > Sec

Re: Breaking News: Lusers _want_ to quote email replies The Right Way.

2002-02-06 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
--XIiC+We3v3zHqZ6Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Jeremy Blosser spake thus: > If I started quoting the right way at work, it would confuse people > to no end... they wouldn't know where to find my response

Re: Breaking News: Lusers _want_ to quote email replies The Right Way.

2002-02-06 Thread Knute
On Wed, 06 Feb 2002, Jeremy Blosser wrote: [snip] > Don't know to change or even if they do, can't really. If I started > quoting the right way at work, it would confuse people to no end... they > wouldn't know where to find my response inside of Outlook's awful message > display interface (mar

Re: Breaking News: Lusers _want_ to quote email replies The Right Way.

2002-02-06 Thread Ken Weingold
On Wed, Feb 6, 2002, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > > Plus when you set quoting to "> " in the options, every time you are > > in that dialog box and hit Ok, it will complain. :-/ > > Really? The messages I get from her seem to be quoted with "> " > properly, she just doesn't know how to actually wr

Re: Breaking News: Lusers _want_ to quote email replies The Right Way.

2002-02-06 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Ah, then she is messing something up. :) Outlook will complain, but > it will do it. And it will quote properly if you set it to. Worked > for me at my last job, where I had to use Outlook. Also make sure she > is sending in plain text, and not that rich text crap. As much as I'd like to b

Re: selective deletion old mailboxes

2002-02-06 Thread Erik van der Meulen
David T-G said: > Why won't > > folder-hook mutt.incoming "push 'D !~F !d >14d\n'" > > work? [Untested, though.] > > I trust you've thoroughly read the list of patterns at section 4.2 ... Hi David - thanks for your help. First experiments indicate that is does not work. My mailbox comes on wit

Re: Breaking News: Lusers _want_ to quote email replies The Right Way.

2002-02-06 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
Alas! Kenneth Pronovici spake thus: > As much as I'd like to blame Outlook here, I've had this experience > and it hasn't been Outlook so much as a user issue. The user was just > inserting right into the middle of the paragraph, actually on the > > lines, without understanding what the > charact