Mutt + Gmail + OAuth2, and Refresh Token Expiration

2025-06-08 Thread Philippe Meunier
Hi, I'm using Mutt with Gmail and OAuth2 with a Google Cloud project and the mutt_oauth2.py script and everything works fine (obviously). The only annoying thing is that the refresh token expires every seven days, so every seven days I have to manually re-run mutt_oauth2.py with --authoriz

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-22 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 08:12:13AM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote: I think a better approach is to figure out what needs to be changed/ fixed/added to RFC 4155 so that it covers the variants that arisen, and to create a superseding RFC that updates it. This won't fix all the problems that have aris

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-22 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
On 22/05/25, Rich Kulawiec (r...@gsp.org) wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 05:26:25PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > > Nope, sorry. RFC 4155 has a problem. Its default format, the only one it > > defines, defines the From_ line rigidly, forbids ">From " escaping, and does > > not use a length. It

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-22 Thread Rich Kulawiec
ves the future well. There are, and will be, projects that will rely on the documentation (which at the point, for better or worse, is RFC 4155, an archived web page mentioned elsewhere in this thread [1], and some scattered notes) long after mutt is gone. (Why? Because there are enormous reposi

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-18 Thread Nemo Thorx
Quoting Rory Campbell-Lange from 15 May (a Thursday in 2025) at 0640 hours... > > I didn't know that. I see on the man page mutt can save as mbox, MMDF, MH or > Maildir using the -m flag. I couldn't see any docs about saving in the > different mbox formats, which I u

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 02:29:13PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: Though then it's even more odd that mbox(5) which ships with mutt _does_ (now) mention MBOXCL2, but also still leaves in all the text about From_ escaping / quoting. Wouldn't it be nice if there was only one version of mb

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Will Yardley
gt; > the claim is that Mutt uses Mboxcl2 (as I think the man page for mbox(5) > > implies, and also as it adds the Content-Length header) it shouldn't > > _need_ to escape the "From " lines in message bodies, but it does anyway. > > No, it doesn't, by my

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 04:04:35PM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote: We referred to them as "mboxes" back in the day; the term was so common that some programs used "mbox" as a default filename. (Can't recall offhand, but maybe the early BSD version of the "mail" command, AKA "ucbmail"?) I think t

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 02:25:44PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > https://www.loc.gov/preservation/digital/formats/fdd/fdd000386.shtml > mentions MBOXCL and MBOXCL2 dating back to SYSVr4. So, if that's the > case, that may have been the widely understood "mbox" used well

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
On 16/05/25, Kurt Hackenberg (k...@panix.com) wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 04:30:53PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > > > I assume the "Content-Length" (and possibly also "Lines"?) was, as Kurt > > suggests, a way of efficiently reading emails out of a larger mbox file. > > No. It was inv

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 04:30:53PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: I assume the "Content-Length" (and possibly also "Lines"?) was, as Kurt suggests, a way of efficiently reading emails out of a larger mbox file. No. It was invented so it wouldn't have to do ">From " escaping, which damages

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 08:05:25PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: I'm on mutt 2.2.13-1. Is the following what you expected? --- /tmp/test.maildir/cur/1747420397.M988463P24699Q1.rain.cave:2,S 2025-05-16 19:33:17.0 +0100 +++ /tmp/test.mbox 2025-05-16 20:00:52.063481577

Re: ReRe: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 02:46:07PM -0400, Mark E. Mallett wrote: One case in point: the bit about only quoting "From_" lines if preceded by a blank line. That's one heuristic (if I dare to use the word) that was pretty randomly followed in the past. It mostly is now, but has not always been. T

Re: ReRe: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 02:09:16PM -0500, Tim Chase wrote: And if program Y "properly" escapes them when storing (indenting again): >From me with no prefix >>From me with one prefix >>>From me with two prefixes From me with three prefixes program X will only un-mung the first one (corr

Re: ReRe: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Mark E. Mallett
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 02:46:07PM -0400, Mark E. Mallett wrote: > One case in point: the bit about only quoting "From_" lines > if preceded by a blank line. Oh this is kind of interesting. I have a set of patches that I apply to mutt, like for when new versions come out. One of

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
On 16/05/25, Kurt Hackenberg (k...@panix.com) wrote: > All right, I just made a maildir for this test. Tar file is attached. Save > the tar file, extract the maildir from it (it's named test.maildir), do > > mutt -f test.maildir > > have Mutt save the message to a

Re: ReRe: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Tim Chase
On 2025-05-16 08:37, Mutt list wrote: > On 16.05.25 01:31, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > > If you think this is a mess, you're right. People have tried to fix > > it, but it can't really be fixed. The only good solution is to not > > use mbox, and store mail in other wa

Re: ReRe: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Tim Chase
On 2025-05-16 14:46, Mark E. Mallett wrote: > PS: just to babble on, here's part of the body of a message that I use > in one of the test scripts for my mail delivery agent. > [snip] > I've left-padded all the lines here with spaces so they won't get > quoted. I hope. If you're looking for more tr

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
On 16/05/25, Mark E. Mallett (m...@schmem.com) wrote: > Just to wade into the bikeshedding.. ... > PS: just to babble on, here's part of the body of a message that I use > in one of the test scripts for my mail delivery agent. The test files > are used in testing different formats (mbox and maildir

Re: ReRe: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 08:37:01AM +, dvalin--- via Mutt-users wrote: I've yet to see anything to fix, having used mbox format exclusively since the 1980s, with mutt since the late 90s. It just effortlessly works with complete reliability - never a hiccup. If you use only Mutt, only

Re: ReRe: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Mark E. Mallett
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 08:37:01AM +, dvalin--- via Mutt-users wrote: > On 16.05.25 01:31, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > > > If you think this is a mess, you're right. People have tried to fix > > it, but it can't really be fixed. The only good solution is to not use

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
make them start with ">From " instead. Right, totally understand all of this, but where I'm confused is that if the claim is that Mutt uses Mboxcl2 (as I think the man page for mbox(5) implies, and also as it adds the Content-Length header) it shouldn't _need_ to escape the &

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread googly . negotiator862
ead. > > I've yet to see anything to fix, having used mbox format > > exclusively since the 1980s, with mutt since the late 90s. It just > > effortlessly works with complete reliability - never a hiccup. > I agree - there are some quirks (like the "From " lin

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Will Yardley
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 08:37:01AM +, dvalin--- via Mutt-users wrote: > On 16.05.25 01:31, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > > > If you think this is a mess, you're right. People have tried to fix > > it, but it can't really be fixed. The only good solution is to not use

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
ple variable-length chunks of text in a > single file. When you want to read one of those chunks, how do you find the > end? It can only work if whatever wrote the file supplied extra information. > It can either put a marker after each chunk of text, or put the length of > each chunk

ReRe: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-16 Thread dvalin--- via Mutt-users
having used mbox format exclusively since the 1980s, with mutt since the late 90s. It just effortlessly works with complete reliability - never a hiccup. My mail directory currently contains 1352 mboxes, a few with upwards of 25,000 mails. The prospect of a few million mail files rather repels me

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-15 Thread Will Yardley
" instead. Right, totally understand all of this, but where I'm confused is that if the claim is that Mutt uses Mboxcl2 (as I think the man page for mbox(5) implies, and also as it adds the Content-Length header) it shouldn't _need_ to escape the "From " lines in mess

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-15 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 09:18:53PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > It's interesting that in replies, Mutt uses >From escaping, though in > the actual raw mbox file, it's not present. No, you're confusing two different uses of '>' at the beginning of a line

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-15 Thread Will Yardley
On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 08:57:56PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 02:25:44PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > > It's interesting that in replies, Mutt uses >From escaping, though in > > the actual raw mbox file, it's not present. > > No

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-15 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 02:25:44PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: It's interesting that in replies, Mutt uses >From escaping, though in the actual raw mbox file, it's not present. No, you're confusing two different uses of '>' at the beginning of a line. A reply

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-15 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 06:40:34AM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: I didn't know that. I see on the man page mutt can save as mbox, MMDF, MH or Maildir using the -m flag. I couldn't see any docs about saving in the different mbox formats, which I understand from https://docs.aspose

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-15 Thread Will Yardley
On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 06:40:34AM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > On 14/05/25, Kurt Hackenberg (k...@panix.com) wrote: > > On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 02:01:11PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > > > I believe that mutt uses mboxcl2 format for writing new mailboxes. I'

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-15 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
On 15/05/25, Christian Brabandt (cbli...@256bit.org) wrote: > On Thu, 15 May 2025, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > > I tested > > > > mutt -R -f test.mbox -m Maildir > > > > I tagged all and saved to a new destination, and that worked as you > > suggeste

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-15 Thread Christian Brabandt
the protonmail go mbox > parser which doesn't cope with mboxcl format. > > However your idea is generally useful to me, so thank you! > > I tested > > mutt -R -f test.mbox -m Maildir > > I tagged all and saved to a new destination, and that worked as you sugges

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-15 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
es, starting with MBOXCL/MBOXCL2, as needed. I'm > > not going to attempt to take on MMDF and MH format, but I've already got > > a basic Maildir format parser going, which is thankfully pretty easy. > > Given that, why not use mutt to translate all the mboxes as Mai

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-14 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
On 14/05/25, Kurt Hackenberg (k...@panix.com) wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 02:01:11PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > > > I believe that mutt uses mboxcl2 format for writing new mailboxes. I'd > > be grateful to know if that is corrrect. > > I think that&#

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-14 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 02:01:11PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: I believe that mutt uses mboxcl2 format for writing new mailboxes. I'd be grateful to know if that is corrrect. I think that's right, with a small addition: since version 1.9.5 (April 2018), Mutt has also wri

mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

2025-05-14 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
Hello; I'm a new subscriber here, but very long-time mutt user. I believe that mutt uses mboxcl2 format for writing new mailboxes. I'd be grateful to know if that is corrrect. It would be helpful also to know how long that has been the case since I've got some 20 year old mutt

Re: Use mutt with several accounts on same server

2025-04-23 Thread Paul Tansom
On 18/04/2025 12:50, Erwan David wrote: I use mutt with sevreal accounts on different servers through folder-hook, account-hook, etc. But now I need to use it with two different accounts on same server. I do not succeed in differentiating them since folders are names imap://server, and

Re: Use mutt with several accounts on same server

2025-04-23 Thread Erwan David
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 01:44:22PM CEST, Paul Tansom said: > On 18/04/2025 12:50, Erwan David wrote: > > I use mutt with sevreal accounts on different servers through > > folder-hook, account-hook, etc. > > But now I need to use it with two different accounts on same

Use mutt with several accounts on same server

2025-04-18 Thread Erwan David
I use mutt with sevreal accounts on different servers through folder-hook, account-hook, etc. But now I need to use it with two different accounts on same server. I do not succeed in differentiating them since folders are names imap://server, and I cannot use imap://user1@server and

Re: Anyone used mutt to sub or unsub to linux kerrel lists ?

2025-04-18 Thread Ken Moffat via Mutt-users
On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 04:13:15PM -0700, Akshay Hegde via Mutt-users wrote: > On 2025-04-11 22:55 +0100, Ken Moffat via Mutt-users wrote: > > I just send an empty body when I ubscribe/subscribe. And yes, to answer > your initial question, I use mutt to send the (un)subscribe ema

Re: linux mutt web tutorials

2025-04-13 Thread googly . negotiator862
On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 03:25:51AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Correction on that last post. > When /etc/openssl/cert.pem doesn't yet exist. If that case isn't > covered then sasl authentication failures result when contacting > gmail. Wouldn't a *lot* of other stuff fail too? Like, curl or w

re: linux mutt web tutorials

2025-04-13 Thread Jude DaShiell
Correction on that last post. When /etc/openssl/cert.pem doesn't yet exist. If that case isn't covered then sasl authentication failures result when contacting gmail.

linux mutt web tutorials

2025-04-13 Thread Jude DaShiell
It would likely help developers to listen to web content before it goes public with a screen readder to discover and correct spelling mistakes. Very popular gmail mutt tutorials fail to cover the case when /etc/openssl/openssl.pem does not yet exist on a machine and when that happens it causes

Re: Anyone used mutt to sub or unsub to linux kerrel lists ?

2025-04-12 Thread José María Mateos
On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 08:51:24PM -0500, J wrote: Worth mentioning is that mutt has a list menu, bound by default to Esc + 'L'. This can be a handy way to unsubscribe to lists, even some marketing emails. Damn, one never stops learning. Thanks for this tip, it's super-useful.

Re: Anyone used mutt to sub or unsub to linux kerrel lists ?

2025-04-11 Thread J
Worth mentioning is that mutt has a list menu, bound by default to Esc + 'L'. This can be a handy way to unsubscribe to lists, even some marketing emails. Quoting Akshay Hegde via Mutt-users from Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 06:13:15PM CDT: > On 2025-04-11 22:55 +0100, Ken Moffat via Mut

Re: Anyone used mutt to sub or unsub to linux kerrel lists ?

2025-04-11 Thread Akshay Hegde via Mutt-users
On 2025-04-11 22:55 +0100, Ken Moffat via Mutt-users wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 10:19:36AM -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > > Ken Moffat via Mutt-users wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 11:03:45PM -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > > >> Per <https://subspac

Re: Anyone used mutt to sub or unsub to linux kerrel lists ?

2025-04-11 Thread Ken Moffat via Mutt-users
On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 10:19:36AM -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Ken Moffat via Mutt-users wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 11:03:45PM -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > >> Per <https://subspace.kernel.org/vger.kernel.org.html>, the > >> unsub address is: linux-k

Re: Anyone used mutt to sub or unsub to linux kerrel lists ?

2025-04-11 Thread Todd Zullinger
Ken Moffat via Mutt-users wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 11:03:45PM -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: >> Per <https://subspace.kernel.org/vger.kernel.org.html>, the >> unsub address is: linux-kernel+unsubscr...@vger.kernel.org. [...] > Thanks! Glad it helped. > I followe

Re: Anyone used mutt to sub or unsub to linux kerrel lists ?

2025-04-10 Thread Ken Moffat via Mutt-users
On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 11:03:45PM -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Ken Moffat via Mutt-users wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 04:20:28PM -0700, Sean Greenslade wrote: > >> Not really a mutt-specific issue, but I think I've spotted your error. > >> The form

Re: Anyone used mutt to sub or unsub to linux kerrel lists ?

2025-04-10 Thread Todd Zullinger
Ken Moffat via Mutt-users wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 04:20:28PM -0700, Sean Greenslade wrote: >> Not really a mutt-specific issue, but I think I've spotted your error. >> The format for commands is listname+comm...@lists.linux.dev. You seem to >> have them backw

Re: Anyone used mutt to sub or unsub to linux kerrel lists ?

2025-04-10 Thread googly . negotiator862
On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 02:36:14AM +0100, Ken Moffat via Mutt-users wrote: > > > Has anyone managed to sub or unsub from mutt ? If you can arrange for those mails to bounce consistently, you'll be unsubscribed automatically after a while ;-) I try to be a good netizen and use

Re: Anyone used mutt to sub or unsub to linux kerrel lists ?

2025-04-10 Thread Ken Moffat via Mutt-users
On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 04:20:28PM -0700, Sean Greenslade wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 10:40:52PM +0100, Ken Moffat via Mutt-users wrote: [...] > > > > The following failed: > > > > unsubscribe+linux-ker...@lists.linux.dev > > host smtp.subspace.kernel

Re: Anyone used mutt to sub or unsub to linux kerrel lists ?

2025-04-10 Thread Sean Greenslade
On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 10:40:52PM +0100, Ken Moffat via Mutt-users wrote: > Now that all the vger.kernel.org lists have moved to subspace, the > old Majordomo unsub process is rejected. I used to read the kernel > list, and test late rc kernels, then more recently I just skimmed > th

Anyone used mutt to sub or unsub to linux kerrel lists ?

2025-04-10 Thread Ken Moffat via Mutt-users
: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table Has anyone managed to sub or unsub from mutt ? ĸen -- War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is Strength

Re: Mail that has nothing to do with mutt

2025-04-10 Thread Mathias M.
> I desperately want politics to be kept out of Mutt! And yet, you're the first one in the thread to clearly show colours and therefore actually make it political to begin with. *scnr* On Sun, Apr 06, 2025 at 08:23:05AM +0200, Roland Hess wrote: > “riseup” a portal with a good reputa

Re: Mail that has nothing to do with mutt

2025-04-06 Thread Roland Hess
My apologies. Didn't mean to offend anyone personally. Roland On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 04:52:05PM +0200, Roland Hess wrote: > I would like to see mail from "riseup" n,e,t > not simply forwarded via the Mutt list. It's not clear who is behind > this and the organizat

Re: Mail that has nothing to do with mutt

2025-04-06 Thread Francesco Ariis
I desperately want politics to be kept out of Mutt! Off topic. It was just a one-off mail, mutt mailing list is not drowning in spam —F

Re: Mail that has nothing to do with mutt

2025-04-05 Thread Roland Hess
“riseup” a portal with a good reputation? Who says it is? The society of Bandera friends? George Soros? Mrs. von der Leyen? There's someone who claims he can't find a pen pal website. Is that conceivable? I desperately want politics to be kept out of Mutt! On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at

mutt && Gmail

2025-04-05 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hello, Is it possible to read/write mail with an account at Gmail using IMAPS and SMTP(S) with mutt? Any working configuration example? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub

Re: An old mutt lockup issue likely gone

2025-04-05 Thread Mark E. Mallett
This post was not a bug report. As it says, the problem no longer appears to be happening (though it's hard to prove a "never"). As I said in the report two years ago, which I provided a link to in my post yesterday, I looked into it fairly extensively, including running truss and

Re: Mail that has nothing to do with mutt

2025-04-05 Thread googly . negotiator862
On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 04:52:05PM +0200, Roland Hess wrote: > I would like to see mail from "riseup" n,e,t not simply forwarded > via the Mutt list. It's not clear who is behind this and the > organizations associated with them. No imprint! The content > (contacting)

Re: mutt && Gmail

2025-04-05 Thread Will Yardley
On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 09:06:47PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Is it possible to read/write mail with an account at Gmail using IMAPS > and SMTP(S) with mutt? Any working configuration example? Other two responses should have you covered. Also should be some good examples if y

Mail that has nothing to do with mutt

2025-04-05 Thread Roland Hess
I would like to see mail from "riseup" n,e,t not simply forwarded via the Mutt list. It's not clear who is behind this and the organizations associated with them. No imprint! The content (contacting) obviously has nothing to do with Mutt. A filter should have sorted this out automatically.

Re: mutt && Gmail

2025-04-05 Thread 황병희
Matthias Apitz writes: > Hello, > > Is it possible to read/write mail with an account at Gmail using IMAPS > and SMTP(S) with mutt? Any working configuration example? > > Thanks > Hellow matthias, Maybe you need Gmail's app passwords? Useful link is <https://s

Re: An old mutt lockup issue likely gone

2025-04-04 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día viernes, marzo 21, 2025 a las 11:43:15a. m. +, Nacho via Mutt-users escribió: > > I run for years mutt in FreeBSD, actual 2.2.12 in FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT > > and in the terminal urxvt, all compiled from ports. I tested now: > > > > - start mutt, stay in inde

re: searching mutt-users list messages

2025-03-28 Thread mike . junk . 46
Egg on my face again. I had looked at the OSUOSL list on the archive page and saw no search functionality hence the question when I went back and tried the MARC list search is available and again I look foolish. Sorry for the noise. Be well, Mike -- The party in power is always the worst, and every

searching mutt-users list messages

2025-03-28 Thread mike . junk . 46
Is there a way to search all of mutt-users list messages? Thanks, Mike -- The party in power is always the worst, and every man looks good until he is elected. - Will Rogers

Re: An old mutt lockup issue likely gone

2025-03-27 Thread Nacho via Mutt-users
> I run for years mutt in FreeBSD, actual 2.2.12 in FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT > and in the terminal urxvt, all compiled from ports. I tested now: > > - start mutt, stay in index view > - resized the urxvt > - no lock Me too, have been using mutt in urxvt with FreeBSD for almost

Re: An old mutt lockup issue likely gone

2025-03-20 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día jueves, marzo 20, 2025 a las 04:28:07 -0400, Mark E. Mallett escribió: > Hi, > > A couple of years ago I reported, here: > > > https://lists.mutt.org/pipermail/mutt-users/Week-of-Mon-20230501/004201.html > > having issues with mutt built with slang on

An old mutt lockup issue likely gone

2025-03-20 Thread Mark E. Mallett
Hi, A couple of years ago I reported, here: https://lists.mutt.org/pipermail/mutt-users/Week-of-Mon-20230501/004201.html having issues with mutt built with slang on FreeBSD locking up after resizing terminal windows. This problem persisted through multiple versions both of mutt and FreeBSD

Re: basic mutt question

2025-03-01 Thread Joshua Rose via Mutt-users
Others in this thread have already addressed your question, but I wanted to mention that redundant keys can often be re-mapped to macros and other mutt commands. There are many keys that do nothing in mutt, and/or you might not need for your specific configuration. These can then be remapped into

Re: basic mutt question

2025-02-26 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 04:38:33PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: The G key gets pop email. What key is used to download imap email? No key, by default. There's the function , but, by default, there's no key binding to it. I change that, bind G to , since I use IMAP but not POP. Here's an e

basic mutt question

2025-02-26 Thread Jude DaShiell
The G key gets pop email. What key is used to download imap email?

Re: mutt 2.2.14 released

2025-02-20 Thread markus reichelt via Mutt-users
gt; tarball. as an old-timer and by now a mere lurker, mutt just works for me on Slackware64-15.0 - keep up the good work!

mutt 2.2.14 released

2025-02-20 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
Hello Mutt Users, I've just released version 2.2.14. Instructions for downloading are available at <http://www.mutt.org/download.html>, or the tarball can be directly downloaded from <http://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/>. Please take the time to verify the signature file agains

Re: mutt on an iPhone

2024-12-04 Thread Will Yardley
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 01:05:51PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > I‘m running mutt for many, many years on all my FreeBSD laptops and Linux > cellphones. > > Is there any way to run it on an iPhone, maybe in a container? I'm sure someone's done it... tbh, even as a long t

Re: mutt on an iPhone

2024-12-04 Thread Jude DaShiell
s root. I would really like to be wrong on that last statement > though. > > > - Jude Q: What borders absolute stupidity? > A: Canada and Mexico. - > > > On Wed, 4 Dec 2024, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > > I‘m running mutt for many, many years on all

Re: mutt on an iPhone

2024-12-04 Thread Jude DaShiell
So far as I now know, ish doesn't come with a package to add users so you run ish as root. I would really like to be wrong on that last statement though. - Jude Q: What borders absolute stupidity? A: Canada and Mexico. - On Wed, 4 Dec 2024, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > I‘m r

Re: mutt on an iPhone

2024-12-04 Thread Dennis Preiser
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 01:05:51PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > I‘m running mutt for many, many years on all my FreeBSD laptops and Linux > cellphones. > > Is there any way to run it on an iPhone, maybe in a container? There are apps that provide a Linux shell under iOS. iSH (<

mutt on an iPhone

2024-12-04 Thread Matthias Apitz
I‘m running mutt for many, many years on all my FreeBSD laptops and Linux cellphones. Is there any way to run it on an iPhone, maybe in a container? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz E-mail: g...@unixarea.de WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ phone: +49-170-4527211

Re: Locating mutt logs

2024-07-17 Thread Peter Flynn
t. I have six accounts defined in .muttrc, with six sets of credentials in six files in .mutt so I tested them all both in sequence and out of sequence. Sometimes Mutt switches accounts perfectly, sometimes it fails, and I haven't yet identified the exact circumstances of the failure (but at

Re: Locating mutt logs

2024-07-16 Thread Peter Flynn
fig file for this account in .mutt says (along with the correct credentials): # activate TLS if available on the server set ssl_starttls=yes # always use SSL when connecting to a server set ssl_force_tls=yes and that seems to be obeyed. But PLAIN authentication should work: this is what the ac

Re: Locating mutt logs

2024-07-16 Thread Peter Flynn
On 16/07/2024 10:08, MikZyth via Mutt-users wrote: On 16-07-2024 00:15, Peter Flynn wrote: BTW does Mutt generate *any* logs at all by default (I don't mean debug logs). $ mutt -v | grep DEBUG will show you whether your build has debug enabled. Apparently yes it has DEBUG on, which is

Re: Locating mutt logs

2024-07-16 Thread googly . negotiator862
On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 11:51:19PM GMT, Peter Flynn wrote: > I installed mutt 1.13.2 from the system repos on Mint 20.3 in order > to be able to force some wayward messages into the threads where > they belong. > That works fine on this address, so I have been trying to add more >

Re: Locating mutt logs

2024-07-16 Thread MikZyth via Mutt-users
On 16-07-2024 00:15, Peter Flynn wrote: > On 16/07/2024 00:03, Will Yardley wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 11:51:19PM +0100, Peter Flynn wrote: > > > > > > Is it possible to turn logging on without having to compile my own mutt > > > from > > >

Re: Locating mutt logs

2024-07-15 Thread Will Yardley
On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 12:15:12AM +0100, Peter Flynn wrote: > On 16/07/2024 00:03, Will Yardley wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 11:51:19PM +0100, Peter Flynn wrote: > > > > > > Is it possible to turn logging on without having to compile my own mutt > > >

Re: Locating mutt logs

2024-07-15 Thread Peter Flynn
On 16/07/2024 00:03, Will Yardley wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 11:51:19PM +0100, Peter Flynn wrote: Is it possible to turn logging on without having to compile my own mutt from source? Or should I look for logs elsewhere? Somewhat depends whether your build has debug enabled, but first

Re: Locating mutt logs

2024-07-15 Thread Will Yardley
On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 11:51:19PM +0100, Peter Flynn wrote: > > Is it possible to turn logging on without having to compile my own mutt from > source? Or should I look for logs elsewhere? Somewhat depends whether your build has debug enabled, but first thing to try would probably be to

Locating mutt logs

2024-07-15 Thread Peter Flynn
I installed mutt 1.13.2 from the system repos on Mint 20.3 in order to be able to force some wayward messages into the threads where they belong. That works fine on this address, so I have been trying to add more of my accounts on various other servers, but some of them clearly try to connect

mutt imap setup: save-hook with local exact header match (not '=h foo:')

2024-07-03 Thread Alan D. Salewski
Hi All, Is there a way, in a save-hook, to match an email header with an exact string match (not a regex) when the mail being saved is from an IMAP mailbox? I am saving the messages to local mbox files, and am using both the Mutt header cache and the Mutt message cache. I would like for the

Re: mutt with gmail and okta?

2024-06-24 Thread Ofer Inbar
Okta SSO will also work, since it will just be inline with whatever > web-based signin process you need. In the past, I did use that python script for mutt with oauth, but that was years ago at a job where oauth was used for internal single sign-on generally. Haven't tried integrating that

Re: mutt with gmail and okta?

2024-06-24 Thread Will Yardley
On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 04:41:27PM -0400, Ofer Inbar wrote: > Is it possible to use mutt with gmail's IMAP for a Google account that > uses Okta single sign-on? Creating an app password, if you're allowed to by organization policy, is going to be by far the simplest option, I t

mutt with gmail and okta?

2024-06-24 Thread Ofer Inbar
Is it possible to use mutt with gmail's IMAP for a Google account that uses Okta single sign-on? -- Cos

Re: mutt && oauth2 config

2024-06-20 Thread Rene Kita
On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 08:08:22AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: [snip discussion about OAuth support] > All that said, while I know active development is pretty much on pause, > and while it's unclear to me whether XOAUTH2 itself is a standard, I > think it is (IMO) important tha

Re: mutt && oauth2 config

2024-06-20 Thread Will Yardley
it's unclear to me whether XOAUTH2 itself is a standard, I think it is (IMO) important that mutt somehow develop builtin native support for OAuth without using the hack of a third party Python script. Even so, users will likely still need to get the IDs needed to produce an application (t

Re: mutt && oauth2 config

2024-06-20 Thread Nuno Silva via Mutt-users
On 2024-06-20, Christian Brabandt wrote: > On Mi, 19 Jun 2024, Will Yardley wrote: > >> (I have started to see some Gmail environments also prevent the >> creation of app passwords). > > If I recall correctly google is transitioning away from using app > passwords later this year. A quick google

Re: mutt && oauth2 config

2024-06-20 Thread Will Yardley
On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 09:06:54AM +0200, Christian Brabandt wrote: > On Mi, 19 Jun 2024, Will Yardley wrote: > > > (I have started to see some Gmail environments also prevent the > > creation of app passwords). > > If I recall correctly google is transitioning away from using app > passwords la

Re: mutt && oauth2 config

2024-06-20 Thread Christian Brabandt
On Mi, 19 Jun 2024, Will Yardley wrote: > (I have started to see some Gmail environments also prevent the > creation of app passwords). If I recall correctly google is transitioning away from using app passwords later this year. A quick google turned up this doc: https://support.google.com/a/

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