Re: from and envelope_from_address

2023-02-13 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 02:02:54PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > Won't setting > set use_from > globally accomplish always setting the envelope-from address to the > header from? Not in my testing, no. In fact, if you closely examine my original message, and assuming the tracing headers don't get d

Re: from and envelope_from_address

2023-02-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 09:21:32PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > That looks about a normal level of nice-ness for mutt config. :) There is always the code generator approach, I guess. -- Ian

from and envelope_from_address

2023-02-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Is there a nice way to set both $from and $envelope_from_address to the same value? I'd like to use a unique alias per mailing list. Right now, I had to add this to my config: set use_envelope_from=yes ... lists -group mutt mutt-users send-hook '%L mutt' "set from='googly.negotiator...@aceecat

Re: Can I fix this groups.io problem with a send hook or something

2020-11-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-11-24 17:22, Chris Green wrote: > > > I'm on a couple of mailing lists that have recently moved from > > > Yahoo Groups to groups.io. For DMARC (so they claim) groups.io > > > change the senders E-mail address as follows:- > > > > > > Sender Name > > > > > > becomes:- > > > > > >

Re: toggle thread

2020-11-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-11-12 15:26, Globe Trotter via Mutt-users wrote: > I see, thank you for the clarification! That is a bummer, so I guess > we can not toggle between threaded and unthreaded on mutt then? See Patrick's reply, please. -- Ian

Re: toggle thread

2020-11-11 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-11-09 18:08, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > I use Alt-Shift-v and I think that is the default binding. HTH > On mine that seems to collapse/uncollapse all threads. Same as V. > Toggling one thread on mine is v. > > Neither switches between threaded and unthreaded. And right you are. I should h

Re: toggle thread

2020-11-09 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-11-09 16:40, Globe Trotter via Mutt-users wrote: > I am looking around for some keystroke setting that will make it is > possible to toggle between threaded and unthreaded views of the > message list. Is this possible? I use Alt-Shift-v and I think that is the default binding. HTH -- Ia

Re: FCC error, may be caused by missing dir ~/Mail

2020-11-06 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-11-06 08:25, Matthias Apitz wrote: > See also man page of wait(2): the errno=ECHILD: >ECHILD (for waitpid() or waitid()) The process specified by pid >(waitpid()) or idtype and id (waitid()) does not exist or is >not a child of the calling process. (This can happe

Re: Is there a hook for modifying a To: field?

2020-08-26 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-08-26 10:00, Chris Green wrote: > > I am on a few lists that behave like this. I think they might be > > rather more common than you suspect. But, I have never had a problem > > posting - list reply always uses only the address in List-Post. (I > > use neomutt, maybe it is different in thi

Re: Is there a hook for modifying a To: field?

2020-08-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-08-25 15:37, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > >To: "'David Eyre'" , > > "'ixion'" > ... > >List-Post: > > Two different addresses for the list. Which one is correct? > > Do all messages from the list have this mismatch, or only messages > from this se

Re: providing IMAP password to a mutt running on a remote host

2020-05-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-05-30 07:04, Felix Finch wrote: > Don't environment variables show up in /proc and ps? On Linux at least, not unless you're the owner of the process (or root, but root can already read the whole IMAP store anyway). -- Ian

Re: providing IMAP password to a mutt running on a remote host

2020-05-29 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-05-29 07:33, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Has someone an idea how could I provide to the remote mutt session the > IMAP credentials stored on my local laptop? If you can talk to the admin of the remote host, you can put the credentials into some Unix environment variables on the laptop and mak

Re: NNTP ?

2019-11-13 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-11-12 16:32, Will Yardley wrote: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 09:49:41PM +0100, Xavier Maillard wrote: > > > > So, I just started my trip in the Mutt world. So far, I like it. Just > > a quickie: does mutt support NNTP as well ? > > Without a patch, I don't think so. > > I haven't had a us

Re: mutt variable expansion in shell command ?

2019-08-28 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-08-28 20:36, Mathieu Carpentier wrote: > I would like to use "folder" for mailboxes command: > mailboxes `echo -n "+ "; cd $folder; find . -maxdepth 1 -type d -name "*" > -printf "+'%f' "` > > When I run mutt, I get the content of my home directory in the side panel: > $folder was not "ex

Re: File locking of mboxrd-format mbox file

2019-06-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-06-30 17:23, Frank Watt wrote: > Well, yes, I'm more than a bit confused. I've been using procmail but > I've been persuaded that dropmail is to be preferred. Now it makes > sense that it is not fetchmail my question is about. [...] > So does that mean I don't have to be concerned about

Re: File locking of mboxrd-format mbox file

2019-06-28 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-06-29 15:24, Frank Watt wrote: > My question is: how do I know what type of file locking that has been > in use all these years of using fetchmail? AFAIK the default mode for fetchmail is not to touch the mailbox file itself at all, but either deliver the message via SMTP to port 25 on lo

Re: delete-thread key combination?

2019-05-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-05-25 08:57, Cameron Simpson wrote: > (Looks at the default key bindings...) And here's a direct counter > example to my claim that mutt rarely uses the Escape key :-) if meta_key is unset, is exactly the same as . Does it make more sense now that some of these would be among the defau

Re: where stores mutt the status of messages, i.e. "r", "N", etc. ?

2019-05-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-05-19 18:30, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > Probably because my mailbox grew to large, this mechanism failed: > suddenly I saw very old messages first. To repair this I edited the > mailbox (using vi) and deleted old messages. Now it works again, but > the status flags are funny: all messages a

Re: Wanted: complex "mutt -s ..." example

2019-05-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-05-12 17:37, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > Is there an example somewhere of using "mutt -s" to send a message > > with multiple attachments, each having different Content-type, > > Charset, Content-transfer-encoding, and Content-disposition? > I suspect for what you want you're better off wr

Re: Inbox folder doesn't work anymore

2019-05-07 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-05-07 22:12, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 12:08:14AM -0300, Luciano ES wrote: > > The problem is that the Inbox folder is empty. And it shouldn't be. > > I can inspect that directory say, with a file manager, and it's loaded > > with messages. > > Check two things: >

Re: majordomo [Was: Send to a Listing]

2019-04-15 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-04-12 14:20, Derek Martin wrote: > I imagine google would turn up some source, but on my desktop, I get > it by typing > > apt install majordomo > Hmm, what distribution? Search on packages.debian.org doesn't find it, even when I set the "Distribution" select widget to "Any". -- P

majordomo [Was: Send to a Listing]

2019-04-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-04-11 19:23, Derek Martin wrote: > One of the easiest might be to run majordomo mailing list software on > your machine. Where do you get majordomo these days? -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. To reply

Re: Numbered SGML entities in header addresses

2019-04-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-04-11 19:12, Derek Martin wrote: > This may be one of the rarer cases where it's actually easier to > contact the sender and get them to do something more reasonable (and > standards-compliant) instead of working around their brokenness. I'll take this as the definitve answer, thanks ;-)

Re: Numbered SGML entities in header addresses

2019-04-08 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-04-07 23:13, felixs wrote: > > From: "Foo Bariì" > > > > where the entity refers to the character U0107 in Unicode code point > > space. I would like to automatically see the correct glyph at least > > when it is in one of the visible headers. Is there a display filtering > > feature i

Numbered SGML entities in header addresses

2019-04-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I think this is the first time I got hit by the next stage of browserisation: on a mailing list, a From: line that looks like From: "Foo Bariì" where the entity refers to the character U0107 in Unicode code point space. I would like to automatically see the correct glyph at least when it is in

Re: Continually asked "Enter keyID"

2019-03-17 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-03-17 11:40, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > Perhaps try the classic gpg interface instead (turn off > $crypt_use_gpgme and source the sample gpg.rc that comes with mutt). s/Perhaps /Be sure to / -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup to t

Re: Hide a message?

2018-12-15 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-12-15 12:04, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Please name a couple of horrible consequences that could happen to my > mail because of procmail. I'm not doubting your words, I just want to > be aware. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=771958 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi

Re: Group reply To-vs-Cc recipients

2018-12-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-12-13 17:56, Derek Martin wrote: > The majority of the community said nothing at all, which suggests (as > I suggested) that most people don't actually give a $#@! about this, > as well they shouldn't. I'll note that in response to Kevin's query, > two people (Ariis and Christiansen) said

Re: Hide a message?

2018-12-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-12-13 13:05, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > Whether to use IMAP at all -- well, one reason to use IMAP, even if > you have direct access to the mail files, is so you can use any mail > reader, not just one. When various mail readers read and write files > directly, even file formats that are sup

Re: Hide a message?

2018-12-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-12-14 11:27, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > DEFAULT=/path/to/maildir/ procmail /dev/null > > > > will work (but I try to avoid procmail for data-critical tasks). > > May I ask why? procmail has been in my ~/.forward for two decades, > with lots of rules, and I've not seen any problems from it

Re: Hide a message?

2018-12-13 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-12-13 23:15, Victor Sudakov wrote: > I have over 400 mboxes in my ~/Mail directory, some of them being > mailing list archives, others being Usenet groups archives, or mboxes > inherited from my decommissioned CommuniGate server. > > My dovecot configuration is simple: "mail_location = >

Re: Group reply To-vs-Cc recipients

2018-11-29 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-11-29 13:26, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > Someone opened a ticket asking about Mutt's group reply behavior. > > By default (i.e. ignoring Mail-Followup-To, $reply_self, $reply_to, > etc.), the To recipients are added to the Cc list of the reply. The > ticket reporter thought it made more s

Re: OT: culprit in MIME recoding and breaking signatures

2018-11-23 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-11-23 09:47, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > > The winner appears to be Perl, namely the Mail::Audit module (and > > whatever other modules it relies on). I had a couple of scripts that > > did gentle transformations of incoming mails. The transformations were > > supposed to only ever touch th

OT: culprit in MIME recoding and breaking signatures

2018-11-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
The winner appears to be Perl, namely the Mail::Audit module (and whatever other modules it relies on). I had a couple of scripts that did gentle transformations of incoming mails. The transformations were supposed to only ever touch the headers, but I used a Mail::Audit object to write back the

Re: Test number two - spaces

2018-10-28 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Re-sending this to see if it is a reliable repro case. On 2018-10-27 16:53, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > Oh, I feel the itch again. Ow-ow, it's unbearable! I must scratch, > > > > Has anyone tried to verify Derek's GPG signature on his message? > > Checking, c

Re: Test number two - spaces

2018-10-28 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-10-28 04:19, Claus Assmann wrote: > > RGH!! I am losing my mind!! > > Hopefully it's backed up somewhere... ;-) > If you kept a copies of the mails which you originally sent > and which you got back: what's the "diff"? Indeed I have kept a file copy. The diff confirms my suspicio

Re: Test number two - spaces

2018-10-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-10-27 18:23, Claus Assmann wrote: > Just FYI: both test mails passed verification for me. RGH!! I am losing my mind!! Here are the intermediate Received headers of the 2nd test mail as it came back to me. Can you share the ones in your copy? Received: from localhost (localhost [

Re: Test number two - spaces

2018-10-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-10-27 17:19, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Ok, that worked. Now let's try this: > This line ends with a couple of dangling spaces. > > Now _that_ would be really stupid! And so it is - that one failed :-( The best available conclusion is that at one the the hops on osuo

Re: Test number two - spaces

2018-10-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-10-27 16:53, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > Oh, I feel the itch again. Ow-ow, it's unbearable! I must scratch, > > > > Has anyone tried to verify Derek's GPG signature on his message? > > Checking, checking, checking gently, > Why it fails, that bea

Test number one - single part, just ascii [Was: sigs again]

2018-10-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-10-27 10:25, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Oh, I feel the itch again. Ow-ow, it's unbearable! I must scratch, > > Has anyone tried to verify Derek's GPG signature on his message? Checking, checking, checking gently, Why it fails, that beats me. Bad sigs rub so unpleasant

sigs again [Was: Composing in utf8 from latin1 terminal]

2018-10-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-10-25 13:06, Derek Martin wrote: > Derek D. Martinhttp://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 Oh, I feel the itch again. Ow-ow, it's unbearable! I must scratch, Has anyone tried to verify Derek's GPG signature on his message? -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing li

Re: Composing in utf8 from latin1 terminal

2018-10-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-10-23 22:31, Nuno Silva wrote: > So far I did not find a way to change this on the mutt side, but I made > a new major mode for mutt messages in Emacs (the editor I use with > mutt), with a hook that changes the file encoding to latin1 if the file > was opened in a latin1 terminal and Emac

Re: reply-to indicator?

2018-10-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-10-16 11:35, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:09:20AM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > mutt seems to show a "C" flag in the index when my address is in the Cc > > list. Is there anything similar for the Reply-To header? > > > Woul

reply-to indicator?

2018-10-16 Thread Ian Zimmerman
mutt seems to show a "C" flag in the index when my address is in the Cc list. Is there anything similar for the Reply-To header? Would it be easy for me (a competent C coder) to hack such a feature in? -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup t

Re: mailing list hook

2018-10-07 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-10-07 22:45, Ben Fitzgerald wrote: > when I configure a list with "lists", list-reply knows to > reply to the mailing list. All great. In fact the "lists" command is not relevant or necessary for this. List reply simply selects the address in the List-Post header. I remember I was confu

Re: Check PGP sigs only when I need to

2018-09-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-09-26 16:23, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > Well I thought about that. But I really want to check the sig _when I > > am already on the message_. How do I make mutt re-read the message and > > check the sig in my macro? > > set crypt_verify_sig=no > macro pager ,cs \ > "set crypt_verify_s

Re: Check PGP sigs only when I need to

2018-09-26 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-09-26 21:12, David Woodfall wrote: > > The ideal solution I dream about is a specific command/keystroke to > > check the signature of a message, when already viewing that message. > > Strange as it is this natural command doesn't seem to exist - or am I > > wrong about this? And if I'm ri

Check PGP sigs only when I need to

2018-09-26 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Hello mutt lovers, I still have not found a good way to check PGP signatures. The root problem is that many (probably more than half) signatures on mailing list messages, including this one, are broken. I have given up on addressing that root problem, but I would still like to check signatures o

Re: Exceptions to ~p based on From:?

2018-09-23 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-09-22 18:49, John Hawkinson wrote: > From: "NYTimes.com" > I'd like messages to those lists excluded from ~p. Isn't this a job for the scoring subsystem of mutt? -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. To re

Collapsed state

2018-09-09 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Hello, I like to start reading my mail with old threads collapsed. Unfortunately I am finding no reliable way to achieve that. For a long time, I just had something like this: folder-hook .* "exec collapse-all current-middle" and it worked fine - but that was when I started mutt always in the sa

Re: no "on behalf of" me in my reply to mailing list

2018-07-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-07-24 18:56, Hang Yuan wrote: > > My header weeding settings are: > > > > ignore * > > unignore In-reply-to References Reply-To cc To From Organization Date > > Subject > > hdr_order In-reply-to References Reply-To cc To From Organization Date > > Subject > > > > I.e. Remove all heade

Re: no "on behalf of" me in my reply to mailing list

2018-07-23 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-07-24 13:31, Hang Yuan wrote: > > I use mutt + msmtp to send email. But I find when I reply an email > > from mailing list, others in the mailing list will not see my email > > address like "on behalf of hang.y...@linux.intel.com" in the > > received email. If I only send email to an indiv

Re: How to send with charset=iso-8859-1 instead of unknown-8bit?

2018-06-20 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-20 12:16, m...@raf.org wrote: > I have some software that invokes mutt (non-interactively) to > send email with iso-8859-1 body text. My guess is that mutt looks at the locale environment (LANG and LC_*) to set the encoding of the source data, and tries to recode it into one of the enc

Re: Bottom posting v top posting

2018-05-13 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-05-13 05:46, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Has mutt got something that can be added to a .muttrc file which > positions the cursor in a reply automatically for bottom posting? > With bottom posting what has me concerned is did I hit the downarrow > key enough to get to the correct position for wr

Re: Bottom posting v top posting

2018-05-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-05-13 09:52, Brian Salter-Duke wrote: > Posting to this list yesterday and a recent incident with my partner, > prompts me to raise the issue of bottom posting. For a long time, > mutters have fought battles and wars to get everybody to bottom > post. It makes a lot of sense, but we have l

OT: Perl [Was: mailing-list to bugs]

2018-05-09 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-05-08 20:46, Derek Martin wrote: > I dare say no one should want to work in Perl anymore... It's such a > horrible mishmash of a lanugage. But C is probably not the best tool > for this job either. Python has modules for handling e-mail and for > talking to bugzilla, and for my money it

Re: choices on reading HTML emails

2018-05-03 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-05-03 08:46, leo wrote: > In according to this discussion [1] I use this strategy: By default I > read html email in mutt (with elinks). When the message can not be > handled well by elinks I hit "v", I choose the html part and I watch > it with firefox. > > This is the part in my muttrc

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-27 06:33, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hmm, someone set Reply-To in the headers of your mail too. That was the list manager, and that's what I call munging. AIUI it was one of the reasons why Mail-Followup-To was invented, because Reply-To could not be trusted anymore. I feel it would be

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-26 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-25 10:24, Will Yardley wrote: > Kind of thread drift, but I actually wonder if Mutt shouldn't move > away from Mail-Followup-To, as it never became a standard, and is not > really adopted by (m)any other commonly used mail clients. It is supported by Gnus. I don't know of any others,

Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines

2018-04-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-25 08:10, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you > > also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. To reply privately > > _only_ on Usenet and on broken lists which rewrite From, fetch the > > TXT record for no-use.mooo.com. > >

Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines

2018-04-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-24 10:06, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Long header lines can be split into 2 or more lines and the 2nd line > must start with a blank (is TAB allowed too). Is there any rule (RFC) > at which char the split is allowed or not allowed? For example, can > mail addr lines be broken at any point l

Re: View HTML without autoview

2018-03-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-14 13:13, David Woodfall wrote: > > Previously, I used elinks and it works fine with autoview, however > > when I try to pipe to it it also renders the headers instead of just > > the body. When you try a pipe, is that piping the message (as a pipe command would do in the index view) o

Re: Remove Subject prefixing (when answering/forwarding) possible?

2018-02-28 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-28 12:10, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > some time ago, in an earlier age, Sven Guckes posted a sed or perl > filter to hide "Subject:" additions, but I seem to have lost it, and > he seems to be missing too :^( Here's what I do now as part of my incoming pipeline. Of course, this in fact

Re: Is collapse subthread possible?

2018-02-26 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-26 20:43, Tim Chase wrote: > > > You can use Alt-v to collapse and open a sub-thread and Alt-V to > > > collapse and open all sub-threads. > > > > what is the command for that? My key configuration of Alt-v binds to > > toggling the entire thread instead of a subthread. > > V: collap

Re: mutt manual: i have bad startings into learning mutt

2018-02-08 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-08 05:04, Ken Moffat wrote: > A few minutes gargling suggests that, at least on a previous ubuntu > version, thunderbird stored mail somewhere under ~/.thunderbird. But isn't that just a cache analogous to mutt's header cache? Even if it does store the full content, is it likely to be

Re: Strange issue with From: line

2018-01-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-14 01:27, Mike Brown wrote: > I was running exim and mutt on an old Solaris system. I finally moved > over to my new Linux box, which is now at Fedora 27. I copied over > the config files. > > But, I had discovered that the "From: " line was incomplete. It was: > > brown@mrvid

Re: Unable to set Reply-To

2017-12-17 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-17 19:31, Richard Z wrote: > there seems to be a config var "reply_to", maybe that overrides your > my_hdr? Also, using the config var might be easier than my_hdr. That variable does something quite different; it's not even a string var but rather a quad one. See the full documentatio

Re: WIRED: ‘Mailsploit’ Lets Hackers Forge Perfect Email Spoofs (fwd)

2017-12-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
> The attack uncovers bugs in how more than a dozen programs implement > email's creaky protocol. Read the full story With such a tendentious title, I'm not sure I should take anything in the article seriously. SMTP is a cleaner and more foolproof protocol (when correctly implemented) than most t

Re: Need some help with send-hook and folder-hook, their order in muttrc

2017-11-07 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-07 10:17, Chris Green wrote: > I'd like to make it so that when I'm in a particular folder (which > will probably be called 'cl') my From: address will also be > c...@isbd.net. > > So I need to add something like:- > > folder-hook cl 'my_hdr From: Chris Green ' > > However I'm a

Re: "Tagging is not supported." message - what causes it?

2017-11-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-02 14:14, Chris Green wrote: > What causes the message "Tagging is not supported."? I'm getting it > when I try and tag messages in one particular directory. I can't see > anything wrong with permissions or anything and the messages open OK > in mutt. Since you apparently write "dire

Re: Speed

2017-10-26 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-10-25 20:48, David Woodfall wrote: > Yes I have shell access. I have tried just setting mutt without imap > to use maildir, but It only sees my Inbox and no other folders. > Perhaps there's a way of doing it but I haven't managed yet. Sync the store to your local box by other means (see b

Re: Speed

2017-10-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-10-24 18:43, David Woodfall wrote: > I've been using mutt a fair while now. Lately I've been using it with > imap and find that it can take a while to read headers. > > Are there any tricks to speeding up imap? Is IMAP a hard requirement? Do you have shell access to the server? -- Ple

Re: How to invoke the limit function from cli

2017-10-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-10-14 00:14, Jim O wrote: > I want to invoke mutt and have it show me, in the index, > just the mails matching a regex. I can do this by entering > klower-case l from the index, and typing in the regex then, > thereby invoking that limit function. But all my efforts > to do something lik

Re: header_cache

2017-09-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-09-02 11:52, Kai Weber wrote: > > > Error in /home/kai/.config/mutt/muttrc, line 13: header_cache: > > > unknown variable > > > source: errors in /home/kai/.config/mutt/muttrc > > > > Is this also the case if you build neomutt from source? > > Yes, Neomutt also has this problem. > > >

header_cache

2017-09-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-09-01 07:51, Kai Weber wrote: > BTW, with either NeoMutt or Mutt 1.8.3 I get > > Error in /home/kai/.config/mutt/muttrc, line 13: header_cache: > unknown variable > source: errors in /home/kai/.config/mutt/muttrc Is this also the case if you build neomutt from source? This looks like a

Re: After change-folder listing the attachments folder does not work

2017-08-31 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-31 23:31, Kai Weber wrote: > Mutt 1.8.3 tarball works. > NeoMutt Github master works > Debian NeoMutt/Mutt package NeoMutt 20170609 (1.8.3) does not work This looks like some fix from mutt (the real thing) that has recently been merged into neomutt, but only after debian froze their pa

Re: After change-folder listing the attachments folder does not work

2017-08-31 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-31 12:49, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > I understand it was probably easy to forget, while in the midst of > dissing the "ultra-conservative" mutt devs and community, that I fixed > your patch and at least gave it serious consideration. The real reason it was easy to forget was the time t

Re: After change-folder listing the attachments folder does not work

2017-08-31 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-31 10:56, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > I strongly suspect this is related to the following discussion: > > > > https://github.com/neomutt/neomutt/issues/609 > > Look like "your" patch contained my fixes, posted in > <20150608225607.gd8...@zaogao.lan> on mutt-dev. Thanks for the (lack

Re: After change-folder listing the attachments folder does not work

2017-08-31 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-31 09:16, Kai Weber wrote: > I have a quite common multi account setup with multiple folders for my > account. I use folder-hooks to switch various settings based on the > folder I change into. > > I have some macros to go directly to one folder: > >macro index ,i "=personal/INBOX

Re: Emacs automatic line wrapping

2017-08-17 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-17 18:04, Jason wrote: > $ ls -la /tmp/emacs$(id -u) > ls: cannot access '/tmp/emacs1000': No such file or directory I should have asked to try that when emacs was running. Maybe you've read my mind? Is this the emacs-nox package maybe? It is possible, even likely, that disabling X1

Re: Emacs automatic line wrapping

2017-08-16 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-16 20:53, Jason wrote: > > That is very odd. In a normal emacs window, do "M-x apropos > > server-edit". What do you get? > > I get "[No Match]" What is the output of the following, typed at a shell prompt? ls -la /tmp/emacs$(id -u) -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lis

Re: Emacs automatic line wrapping

2017-08-16 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-16 11:16, Jason wrote: > Symbol's function definition is void: server-edit > Is there an easy answer to that? That is very odd. In a normal emacs window, do "M-x apropos server-edit". What do you get? Where does your emacs come from? Binary package, what platform? Or self-compiled

Re: Emacs automatic line wrapping

2017-08-11 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-11 20:44, Jason wrote: > '(auto-fill-mode t) > > What am I missing? > Thanks. auto-fill-mode is a function (more precisely a command, or interactive function), not a variable. To make it automatic, you need a hook, as I said. And given that, arranging for Message mode may actually

Re: Emacs automatic line wrapping

2017-08-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-02 21:47, Jason wrote: > I am using emacs24 for my text editor with mutt (in a terminal). > How can I set it to automatically wrap the lines at a certain number > of characters? "M-x auto-fill-mode" will do it in a new buffer, provided you set your fill-column variable. You can do the

Re: how to point Mutt to a VPN connection

2017-08-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-01 15:17, Yubin Ruan wrote: > I am wondering whether it is possible to point Mutt to connect to a > VPN client that is listening at a local port whenever I want to have > direct imap access to my mail server. Currently I configure Mutt to > connect to the Gmail server using gmail direct

Re: Attachment saving and piping: what of the headers?

2017-07-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-07-11 13:05, Erik Christiansen wrote: > Curious. Here, a "| cat > /tmp/fred" produced a copy of your post, > complete with 80 lines of headers. That's with pipe_decode unset, and > Mutt 1.8.0 (2017-02-23). But that is not what I'm writing about. I'm just trying to save a single attachmen

Attachment saving and piping: what of the headers?

2017-07-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Well, just when I thought I'd never need to ask a question here again :-) I started writing a script which will run as a sink of from the attachment view. I spent some minutes to make the script correctly (I thought) skip over the MIME headers, and only start the real processing after the empty

Re: Mutt - Neomutt and Debian Stretch

2017-07-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-07-01 08:17, Antonio Radici wrote: > The only reason for the upstream switch was the code indenting > changes, which would have make the neomutt patch bigger than the mutt > source code, if we could get these in the main mutt source code that > can help any proposal to restructure the patc

Re: How to backup emails with colon in file name

2017-06-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-06-27 21:05, Bastian wrote: > c Don't use fat (sry, could not resist) While we're at it, using a USB flash (I assume) stick for backups is also not a great idea, independently of the file system on it. -- Please *no* private Cc: on mailing lists and newsgroups Personal signed mail: pl

Re: Open mutt with only messages from one person

2017-06-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-06-24 14:59, Thomas Schneider wrote: > You can have the email directed to various files. I direct my email > either to my main email "in" box or to one of several other files. It is also easy to tell procmail to deliver _both_ to a general "inbox" folder _and_ a special pre-filtered fold

Re: New mutt GPGME error

2017-06-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-06-02 04:51, Ben McGinnes wrote: > There shouldn't be. While new functions are periodically added to > GPGME as features are added to GPG and its related projects, efforts > are made not to change existing functions. I think I found it: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=600600 Mo

Re: New mutt GPGME error

2017-06-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-05-30 10:00, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > I just upgraded to Ubuntu 17.04 and got a new version of mutt: 1.7.2.1 > > > > I now frequently get the following error message for delivered mail: > > > > "GPGME: CMS protocol not available" > Alternatively, you can install the gpgsm packag

Re: index shows only the newest message?

2017-05-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-05-30 13:49, Wilson wrote: > When I said mutt shows only one message, I meant it scrolls down to > the last message regardless of having others before it. I made a > recording to show it happening: http://0x0.st/6ZD.webm > > As you can see, I can scroll up to show the other messages, but

Re: Your GPG signature is wrong

2017-05-16 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-05-16 09:09, Michelle Konzack wrote: > you should correct your GPG signature. IMO signing unencrypted email is of limited value. See the link below the fold. -- Please *no* private Cc: on mailing lists and newsgroups Personal signed mail: please _encrypt_ and sign Don't clear-text sig

Re: Using fdm to sync imap folders

2017-05-16 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-05-16 09:03, Dirk Fizzlebeef wrote: > Is there a way I can use IMAP to sync whatever I've done to the server > but still store the emails offline so I don't have to use IMAP to read > them? offlineimap is being discussed in the other thread right now. -- Please *no* private Cc: on maili

Re: Can mutt prefetch mail

2017-05-13 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-05-14 09:33, Cameron Simpson wrote: > The other common solution for IMAP mail accounts is offlineimap After trying: direct IMAP access with mutt, offlineimap, maildirsync and even git (no kidding!), I settled on unison for this purpose. It works great for me. Of course unlike the IMAP a

Re: tweak subject with regex before display

2015-12-29 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2015-12-29 17:37 +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote: > Our companys "virus" check adds really annoying "*** unchecked ***" to > every encrypted mails subject. > > Is there a way to suppress certain parts of a subject before displaying > in the folder view? > > To my mind comes also mailinglist tags

Re: mutt-1.5.23_9 && gnupg-2.1.6

2015-12-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2015-12-26 06:32 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Looks like raw vs. cooked mode issue. Should be fixable with stty. > > Ofc, but I think, this must be done inside mutt itsef, which hands over > the tty in this state Ah, right. Do you see the "Invoking GPG" message also in the second (good)

Re: mutt-1.5.23_9 && gnupg-2.1.6

2015-12-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2015-12-25 08:11 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > In the mutt' terminal (a uRxvt) the screen is a bit mangled: > ... > i.e. the \n at the end of each line is not interpreted anymore as \n+\r; > also the ENTER key sends only a \r to the STDIN of pinentry which is not > understood either as the end

Re: Incoming html mails are not being rendered as html by lynx.

2015-12-11 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2015-12-11 16:02 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > I have played around a little with my ~/.mailcap file (which generally > works, e.g. for things like files.pdf), but nothing I do appears to > have the slightest impact on these html mails. Currently, I have this > entry for text/html: > > text/

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