the
install files into the ramdisk rather than from an existing
file system or other more supported option. I think the "proper"
answers will work better for you all around.
Nick.
fying.
Nick.
g. Kinda sucks,
I was much more productive before youtube and other video sources
became fully functional in OpenBSD. :)
Nick.
On Sun, May 5, 2024, 13:05 Christer Solskogen
wrote:
> Running pfstat -q gives:
> ioctl: DIOCGETSTATUS: Permission denied
> pf_query: query_counters() failed
>
> This is on a newly updated system (current)
> OpenBSD tugs.antarctica.no 7.5 GENERIC.MP#50 amd64
>
> Packages are also all up to date.
e the new favorite revision control system, so knowing
got/git is more marketable than cvs. :-/
Nick.
post
boot by a separate script. Maybe make /tmp an MFS if that's an option.
That will minimize the fsck problems, and allow the system to come up
for either manual, remote fixing or even fsck -y in the mountall script.
Don't forget you ro'd the /usr partitions, otherwise your upgrades will
be unpleasant. :)
Nick.
On 5/21/24 08:28, Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2024-05-21, Nick Holland wrote:
...
When I remove that disk the boot sequence stops and asks for a fsck
I would like that this disk is mounted when it's present, but when it's not
installed I don't want the boot sequence to stop
On 5/22/24 08:08, Kirill A. Korinsky wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 12:53:11 +0100,
Nick Holland wrote:
For reasons of multi-hour fsck's on a few systems, I'm looking at
remounting the problem file systems as "rw" when writing is actually
needed and "ro" after th
o zero, and then the next
read encounters the same problem. You may be able to hear lots of
activity on the drive with little obvious progress. I'm not convinced
this is your problem, but ... something to consider.
Nick.
tion to do that is just
fine with me.
OpenBSD provides cdio(1), which has the "cdrip" option to extract
audio tracks to .wav files. In the base system.
Nick.
hat the drive is unused, but if things are as you describe it,
it's safe.
But most likely, it's sd2, because USB devices are enumerated AFTER
IDE/SATA/SCSI/SAS/RAID connected drives. (but there are things that
can happen that keep me saying, "most likely" and "here's how you
find out" rather than just assuming sd2. :) )
Nick.
ing drives). So
when I test the drive replacement process, I plan to rebuild the OS
partition first (anticipated time: minutes), then the data partition
later (anticipated time: days).
And yes, I'm testing the behaviors of this thing and the drive replacement
process before I commit it to production.
Nick.
y written software". So really, security is the least
important consideration. You want to be able to break your system and
repair it over the network without console access. To your credit, you
are honest about that. That's your call, but you are gonna want a
different OS. Perhaps Windows 95 (remember the user name/PW prompt,
where if you just hit ESC, it went away and dropped you at the desktop?).
OpenBSD is probably not the tool you want.
Nick.
ion process. Either your burner is bad,
your media is damaged, or the reader is bad. I've seen all three, lots of
times. Be glad you got the error...back in the olden days, I had a drive
that would happily install every Novell Netware file on a server...but most
were corrupted.
Nick.
eat, others are horribly
non-standard, "Works with windows, ship it!".
Nick.
I'm having trouble believing your laptop is having this same
issue. (this particular machine is noted for this problem on Linux, too,
except Linux won't boot headless at all; the full OpenBSD kernel boots
just fine headless, but you can't do a headless upgrade.)
Nick.
you
are good enough that you can deal with the issues when you find out you were
not as smart as the OpenBSD devs after all. I like hitting those issues,
because then I learn something).
Nick.
on with a new one, in the next 20G of the disk. In a few years,
maybe you need 25G or 30G. But this way, you can never use storage that
has been worn for more than a year. Might get ten years of "fresh" disk
on a single SSD that way. Do this, I'll laugh at you. :)
Nick.
incompatible hardware boot an install media just fine
then fail to see a disk.
But your answer to the disk/http/nfs question will be "disk".
The disk will be the USB drive's 'a' partition, and it is not
currently mounted.
Nick.
but I realize that's a little difficult on a system that won't boot.
SOME important bits:
BIOS vs UEFI boot
OpenBSD version?
HW run on?
Softraid?
What are you booting from?
multiple disks?
multibooting?
Exactly what error messages are you seeing at exactly what point?
Nick.
On Sun, Sep 15, 2024 at 12:22 AM Jonathan Thornburg
wrote:
>
> Does OpenBSD support any file systems with built-in checksums to
> (try to) ensure metadata and/or data integrity in the face of "bit rot"
> disk (or memory/cpu/USB) errors? I'm not looking for ZFS-style storage
> pools or logical vol
> Surely I know something You perhaps don't.
> More importantly I can see where the lies are.
And where are the lies? For those of us uninitiated in whatever you
are, cite your science please.
-Nick
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Bryan Irvine wrote:
> The problem is that you can't use the pf mailing list from gmail.
>
> -Bryan
Because people who use gmail aren't smart enough for PF? Because it's
a free webmail provider and so a source of spam?
-Nick
n Linux, and a guy I asked last night
seemed to think my method should work on FreeBSD, so what is OpenBSD
doing that's upsetting screen?
Thanks for your attention,
-Nick
Yeah, it's there, that's why I said "I don't have to bother with sudo
-u" to switch from root to my user.
I still want to know what's killing screen.
Thanks,
-Nick
On 08/04/2009, Mike Erdely wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 04:58:38PM -0400, Nick Guenthe
t 04:58:38PM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote:
>> I'm trying to make my torrents get started with my server. A script is
>> at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-859543.html that starts
>> it up in a detached screen session, but obviously the linux-ism of
>> that script w
My old IBM Thinkpads are very fond of that. No promises for you, though.
Experiment with "halt -p" before sticking things in rc.shutdown...
However, I've also seen defective boards that just didn't power down the
power supply...even in the OSs they were orginally sold with, and
some that just don't try.
File servers that don't power down on their own? I really suspect you
won't care much once it goes into production...
Nick.
m...
By definition...YOU do not know of the years of private effort that
went into resolving the problem (why? because it was PRIVATE!).
I happen to know, from chance conversation long ago, that this was NOT
a problem that popped up last week, or even last year. Nice, polite
and quiet seem to have been given their chance, and failed. Time for
something different.
Nick.
doing here is breaking things. You do not need to change any
files to get a tip(1) session going with a Sun machine.
If you are getting a "lost carrier" response, you need to look at the
machine you are getting that from -- i.e., your terminal machine.
What command are you using to try to establish the connection?
Nick.
Because, you know, blind faith has such a solid track record and reputation.
On 31/03/2009, David Schulz wrote:
> For me, i cant even estimate the time and effort that goes into all the
> related work and issues for OpenBSD, and thus am more than thankful. OpenBSD
> sits in every important Corner
uch of what people assume is not overly accurate.
Nick.
out
when 4.4-CURRENT because 4.5-RELEASE. Can anyone tell me? Or better
yet, tell me if there's a way to figure these things out in cvsweb?
Thanks
-Nick
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:02 AM, wrote:
> OpenBSD 4.5 Release has support for Intel WiFi Link 5000 Series
> adapters. See http://www.openbsd.org/45.html
>
D'oh, that was the one place I didn't think to look. Thanks.
-Nick
ll a program you should always be able to kill it so I
suspect I'm misinterpreting -i.
Thanks!
-Nick
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Juan Jimenez Galdos
wrote:
> Sorry, I pressed enter.
>
> I add to sudoers (cd0 is the directory in /mnt/):
> db ALL=/sbin/mount /cd0,/sbin/umount /cd0
>
> But when I try "mount /dev/cd0c /mnt/cd0" and i write the password it says
> "try again", and i have writt
igging through Google output containing a lot
> of links to official FAQ and quotes from it. :(
>
What would the point of putting it on the RAMDISK kernels, when it
isn't in GENERIC?
Nick.
d games.
(for some uses, being unable to write to the CD may be a benefit, though
I suspect most people will find it an annoyance to work around more than
a benefit)
General outline on creating one is in FAQ 14.
Nick.
ne.
>
> THank you very much.
>
>
Show us the command you're running. You should get used to
copy-pasting the relevant bits from your terminal to here. Please, use
your head, you're making us fly blind here. WHY does that seem to not
be correct?
-Nick
use I was too clever
broke the line at the 80 char point, so it would be as you see on
your monitor.
>
>
> Here's the full dmesg:
>
> OpenBSD 4.4-stable (GENERIC.MP) #4: Sun Nov 16 14:21:18 CET 2008
I'd be more convinced I was right if this date was more recent. :)
Nick.
Thank you!
On 20/04/2009, frantisek holop wrote:
> hmm, on Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 05:19:05PM -0500, Tony Abernethy said that
>> frantisek holop wrote:
>> > all hw is unrealible to some degree,
>> ... and all degrees of unreliability are equivalent?
>> Methinks some people like stuff that is LESS un
e it with
me to places where all my vi "beep!"s would be annoying.
Nick.
. That's the difference between a RAID
system that will save you a lot of downtime vs. one that will CAUSE
you a lot of downtime. You are definitely working on "cause" right
now.
you MUST understand how your RAID system works, otherwise you WILL
lose data and time.
Nick.
hough.
Has anyone ever seen this before? It's not critical, I'm just curious
if this is a bug in gdm or a bug in my setup.
Thanks!
-Nick
ding partition 'n' I can mount and use my data drive fine. My
only guess was that I had too many partitions, but the FAQ says "up to
'p'") which is greater than 'n' so that's not it. So any ideas why
OpenBSD didn't pick up the data partition on it's own? If you look
closely you'll see that it picked up the ubuntu root drive (as sd0i)
which was also not within the original disklabel(8) "b" limits.
Thanks,
-Nick
That wouldn't give device not configured.
What does disklabel cd0 give?
On 23/04/2009, Mike Erdely wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:13:06PM -0700, minsai0...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> /dev/cd0a /mnt/cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0
>
> Does /mnt/cdrom exist?
Apologies to most people who won't give a shit but I'm finally moving
to New Mexico and am posting updates at http://nbender.com more
or less daily as we make our way across the country.
Regards,
-N
valid swipe" or "login incorrect".
I see the same result as you with sudo. Annoying. Sudo must not be
feeding it correctly right, but perhaps login_fingerprint is expecting
wrongly.
It would be a neat gimmick if we could get this working!
-Nick
On 23/04/2009, LEVAI Daniel wro
I
should probably shyly mention here that I'm on -CURRENT right now)?
Why are we writing "-fingerprint" instead of "fingerprint"?
login.conf(8) is hazy on what this means. It doesn't seem to matter
espcially which is chosen.
I suspect my problem is a driver issue. I have a 1600 chip (as linux
tells me... dunno why OpenBSD) but the driver is written for 1610
chips. Until I can at least use su with my finger I'm not sure I can
help you.
-Nick
e I can
>> help you.
> What does `ls -lR /home/$USER/.fprint/` tells you? Do you have the proper
> scanned fingerprints there? Do you have the $USER in the fingerprint class
> (if you've followed the README file with login_fingerprint)?
>
The fingerprint files exist alright. The only thing I thought it might
be is that -CURRENT broke login_fingerprint somehow, but if you're
running the same code it must be the driver.
http://reactivated.net/fprint/wiki/Aes1610 sort of suggests that the
reader isn't great to begin with and if mine's a version off I
wouldn't be surprised it's b0rked.
-Nick
ms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0:
spkr0 at pcppi0
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
umass0 at uhub0 port 4 configuration 1 interface 0 "TOSHIBA
NE
risk. Many others exist.
For example, administrators who refuses to do basic research, but
rather resorts to posting basic questions on public mail lists rather
than reading documentation or hiring a qualified administrator opens
themselves to "social engineering" exploits which no OS can protect
them from.
Nick.
tions.
Personally, I can't imagine there are many applications of 250G
disks where the entire disk needs to or should be allocated. If
you are building a firewall, 8G is still a plenty big chunk of
disk to allocate, and a /lot/ faster to fsck after you trip over
the power cord.
...
> PS: Who could even possibly think of asking for a GUI installer after
> that. I love it!
wait for it. :-/
Nick.
dering how fast it is to do
an install, why didn't you just TRY it and find out...etc. I've
spent longer answering than it would take to test your question...
Nick.
The "apps" dir there is virtual. Gconf makes a virtual filesystem
where preference data is stored. Install gconf-editor to understand
really quickly. I found it confusing too.
So did you run that command?
On 27/04/2009, Toma Bod ar wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I installed ekiga trough ports (pkg_add wa
#x27;s awkward to do it in .profile
because you'd have to remount your /home/$USER over top, but moving
the mounting code into login(1) avoids that
-Nick
On 28/04/2009, Maxim Bourmistrov wrote:
> ... yet another vnd-hack including modified login_passwd, sudo
> and .bash_logout:
>
ed?):
wi(4)
(zyd(4) says the chip has the ability to do ad-hoc but "more work is
required", and googling
(http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/archives/linux-il/11-2005/18095.html)
suggests it can be an access point too)
Thank you in advance
-Nick
Apologies. By now of course I see *that*. But so it's just a software
issue then: that's the answer I was hoping for! It means there's
nothing inherently wrong with my hardware, I can make it work if I
just put the effort in (and find the time to learn).
Thanks
-Nick
On 28/04/2009
for help on it AND pretend everything is perfectly normal
is completely tacky. :)
Wild guess, though: you have two CD-like devices, you booted off
one, your FrankenBSD boot disk assumed the other was cd0,
and ta-da, no disklabel, which is EXACTLY what the error message
said. But still...just do a normal OpenBSD install. It's easy,
it works.
Nick.
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Claudio Jeker wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 05:47:20PM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote:
>> Why do only certain wireless cards support host AP mode or IBSS mode?
>> Is the 'modality' hardwired into the wifi hardware?
>>
>> Fo
ank you very kindly for the explanation. I really mean that.
-Nick
that is actually what fixed ekiga, or maybe running it a
first time caused gconf to valid-ize all your keys. Weird.
-Nick
ct there is more to
refit than just those 512 bytes...but that's all you need to
restore.
refit may help you here in some way...I'd suggest asking on a
refit list, see if they know of any magic secret extra copies of
the MBR sector of the disk, or any other magic tricks it has.
Just tell them that all that happened is the very first sector
of the disk, the MBR, got clobbered.
Good luck...hopefully, someone with more IntelMac experience can
give you better guidance.
Nick.
Daniel Ouellet wrote:
> Nick Holland wrote:
>> the "Use entire disk" question changes no more than 512 bytes on your
>> disk. That's the good news. The significance of that 512 bytes is the
>> problem. (and while 512 bytes doesn't sound that bad, that&
ove things in the past, it will
make things less fun in the future.
it's also quite i386/amd64-centric.
Nick.
the contents of the file no longer
resemble ANY revision of the stock file. On the other hand, if the
install was five years old and never had used PF, but today you want to
start using PF today, it would be best to start with the newest version
of pf.conf as an example.
You gotta keep your brain involved
Nick.
How does it not boot? What's the error/symptoms?
I know I had OpenBSD booting without a hitch in qemu under OS X. You
can either install it from darwinports or there's a GUI wrapper called
Q.app available somewhere.
On 03/05/2009, jebyrnes wrote:
> Indeed, that was my first impulse as well once
Your disks aren't showing up in dmesg. Try tweaking your BIOS
settings--i know that I had to change from IDE emulation to AHCI when
I upgraded to 4.5.
On 05/05/2009, Bill Maas wrote:
> Hi,
>
> First, and just for the record: while trying to set up an FTP server on
> OpenBSD 4.2 I got this error m
root
partition, but rather the /boot that exists on the root partition of the
target drive (i.e., the "boot" you WILL use, not the one that you already
used).
Nick.
job long
before the kernel is even loaded (is five seconds "long"? :).
See faq14 for more info on how this all works.
You want something like:
/usr/mdec/installboot -v /mnt/boot /usr/mdec/biosboot sd0
assuming sd0a is mounted on /mnt and is your new disk.
(alternately: just boot install media, point it at sd0, and it will do
the rest for you...)
Nick.
n't get replaced when the real one is. So now you have
the old PBR reading ...something other than /boot
If you replace your grub boot loader with a normal MBR and flag
the OpenBSD partition as active, I bet the system will boot just
fine.
Alternatively, do whatever voodoo you need to do to tell grub
there is a new PBR for it to use.
Nick.
I had a similar problem where trying to write anything with my CD
drive, and sometimes even just reading it, would lock. I saw something
go by on here that hinted it was because the drive was a fancy
blu-ray/duallayer/hddvd-capable drive but that's as far as I cared to
dig.
On 09/05/2009, Jasper V
now!'"
event occurs, it is much easier to do it if you have kept
yourself up to date.
Nick.
to the monitor. In this
case, you will need to hard-set X to run at exactly the resolution
and timing you are after.
Nick.
es are nicer anyway.
.Actually I just solved my problem a different way because I
discovered the dhclient.conf:send host-name ""; option. I'm
still curious about mDNS support in OpenBSD though (and this took me a
couple hours of searching, so the archives could probably use this
tip).
-Nick
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Antoine Jacoutot
wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2009, Marco Peereboom wrote:
>
>> I need an mdns solution as well. If you have something working please
>> let me know.
>
> I'm working on avahi which I intend to finish at c2k9.
>
Thank you!
that's always the -ideal-, wheras in linux
the goal is just to get things working, not necessarily working
reproducibly well without regard to platform and situations.
-Nick
On 13/05/2009, Eric Furman wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2009 01:01:40 -0400, "Chuck Robey"
> said:
>> bet
MANI wrote:
> and why I can not boot to
> OpenBSD using bootable cd ? boot > hd0a:/bsd not working for me.
That should work...
What happens?
Nick.
ent. If you don't have much of a scrap pile, you
may have difficulty expanding old machines to the useful minimum.
Nick.
ser and
> I really feel that I've enought privacy, don't need a
> super-secret-ultra-secure OS
> nor to say "Made In China" xD
As at least some Chinese people are not proficient in the language
that most of the mainstream OS are written in (though I'm sure an
awful lot of them could correct my grammar *sigh*), so I can easily
imagine the benefit to a "home grown" OS with a little less of an
English bias.
Nick.
epartitioned" it with
Windows, you almost certainly ended up with the Windows partition at
the beginning of the disk, and very probably as the first MBR partition,
because that's how Windows does flash devices.
Windows can't handle a Windows partition that is not first on a flash
disk, so it wouldn't surprise me if the stripped-way-down-non-OS on an
MP3 player would have even more significant limitations.
Still, a cool thing to do. :)
Nick.
what
you saw is EXACTLY what I'd expect to happen.
Nick.
ing, you
would probably have to run them in graphics mode, and probably be
hopelessly hardware specific. Now look at what you have done,
and realize you on your way to re-inventing X. Just keep going,
might as well see if you can do better...
Nick.
on.
It's handy to not have this ticked if you want all your non work
traffic to go out via your normal connection, but in this case you
want it ticked.
Cheers - Nick
On 29 May 2009, at 22:08, Juan Miscaro wrote:
Hi, I'm trying to set up a PPTP tunnel for a Windows machine lyin
you'd need to add routes and rules into that.
Hope some of this helps.
On 30 May 2009, at 21:19, patrick keshishian wrote:
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Nick Ryan wrote:
There's a tickbox on the windows vpn client to tick.
It's quite well hidden.
To get to it, do properties
kes the improvement. If all you are doing
is a mechanical KNFing, please don't. If you aren't finding OTHER
errors while reading code, just keep reading, not changing.
(Devs: feel free to jump all over me if I'm wrong here, working on an
article in the FAQ along these lines... :)
Nick.
ut users would still have
to be in the audio group or whatever to use this. Conversely, if
you're actually worried about eavesdropping you can run aucat -l like
usual.
Actually, you could hack this now: make an 'audio' user, at boot do
"sudo -u audio aucat -l" and also create links to the socket that made
for each user on the system. I don't know what's worse: recreating
links at each boot or having to have a config file.
-Nick
s you
haven't played with SPARC systems which usually only support
eight partitions...but with OpenBSD, magic happens and you end
up with 16 partitions in such a way that the SPARC boot ROMs
(and even Solaris to some degree) still work (for the first eight).
Even if you don't use them, all 16 partition table entries exist
and could be used later, if needed.
Nick.
(private) HKS wrote:
> Has anyone solved this problem on OpenBSD?
>
> -HKS
>
I have not yet, but I've been meaning to look into systems such as
cfengine [1], puppet [2], chef [3], etc.
I'd be interested in any experiences folks have with these types of
systems and Op
r a disabled boot ROM, this won't work, as there will be no BIOS
support for your system, and thus no way to boot OpenBSD to get
OpenBSD's support for your system.
Nick.
Eric d'Alibut wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Nick
> Holland wrote:
>
>> If you look early on at the boot messages, you probably see something
>> like:
>> B disk: fd0 hd0*+ hd1+
>
> Exactly that. (Only, since I am now booting from the i
net address 8:0:20:9e:d7:72, Host ID: 809ed772.
>
>
>
> Rebooting with command: boot floppy bsd
> Boot device: /p...@1f,0/p...@1,1/e...@1/fdthree File and args: bsd
> Bad magic number in disk label
> Can't open disk label package
> Evaluating: boot floppy bsd
you can't boot most Ultras from floppy, and in this case, the U5/U10
are part of "most".
Use a CD-R, if that doesn't work, borrow a known good IDE CDROM.
U5/U10s Just Work (when they ain't busted)
Nick.
ng a bootloader pulled from floppy (or CD), but the fact the
system can't boot on its own indicates there's something wrong
with the installed system, and if that's the case, the floppy boot
trick may not work as well.
(you MAY be right, there may be something wrong with the HD, but
usually you get SOME kind of error message. Though sometimes you
don't... ('scuse me while I have an unpleasant flashback...)
Nick.
On Saturday, June 20, 2009, Jean-Frangois SIMON
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> It looks like the max bandwidth of ftp is somehow 350 Kb/s.
> Is this normaland if so can it be increased ?
>
> Thx
> Bye.
I don't think FTP is rate limited by default. Wild guess is you need
to google tcp window size. What does
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Jason Beaudoin wrote:
>
> to clarify.. you are using Samba, or Samba & Winbind?
>
> ~Jason
Not a user, but samba/winbind was discussed on ports last week:
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports&m=124653912620380&w=2
me. As the asker of the question, expect
to spend AT LEAST as much time (and more likely, many times as
much time) investigating and describing your problem as you
expect others to spend helping you for free.
This applies to your other thread you have started...and from
memory, the ones you have
ut my connections for some reason
(perhaps because the NAT is full) and I would like to be able to run
OpenBSD on it so I could actually tweak things.
-Nick
On 14 Jul 2009, at 18:27, Bob Beck wrote:
* Michiel van Baak [2009-07-05 11:05]:
On 10:36, Sun 05 Jul 09, stan wrote:
I am trying to get OpenBSD 4.5 working as a guest OS using KVM on
Linux. I
have been able to get 4.4 to install and run fine, but 4.5 never
gives me a
login prompt. The las
g-term maintenance nightmares.
IF your hardware is so anemic that it can't run GENERIC, I think you
will do much better getting more realistic hardware than by mangling the
OS. On the other hand... I do have a lot of 4M RAM chips and 486
processors maybe I can sell you...
Nick.
rotates those log files. Of course,
you can adjust the rotation schedule.
What you see is (potentially?) entirely normal.
Nick.
o, but there's a few odd
lines I've noticed in the dmesg:
...
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 11
...
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 8
...
Anybody have any ideas?
-Nick
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