On 10/23/14 22:28, Worik Stanton wrote:
> On 24/10/14 14:53, Nick Holland wrote:
>> On 10/23/14 21:36, worik wrote:
>>> "Processes local and package scripts in /etc/rc.d" is listed as the last
>>> thing rc does after boot.
>>>
>>> What does &
ll? A
laptop running on batteries...if you aren't going to use it, why not
just suspend it? No, I don't fully embrace what I'm advocating there,
but I'm having trouble explaining to myself why I don't. I find myself
annoyed by blanking far more often than I say, "I'm so glad my screen
just blanked", and I'm inclined to think that means I'm doing it wrong.
Nick.
nd line) to the wrong place, so it excluded nothing...including
things it should have excluded. The new, intended changes were tested,
they worked great, but the exclusion rule kicked in a couple hours later
and started purging data.
Nick.
mirror systems are all a little different, hardware
running over a range of capabilities, so there's no one set or even
template of scripts mirror maintainers use.
Sitting down and writing up a set of notes for mirror maintainers is on
my list of things to do.
Nick.
--
It's impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do
not know what Heartbleed means.
On 11/01/14 15:26, Eduardo Lopes wrote:
> In http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq1.html#WhatsNew:
>
> "The complete list of changes made to OpenBSD 5.4 to create OpenBSD 5.6
> can[...]"
>
> I think that 5.4 was left behind, wasn't it?
>
yep, thanks
Nick.
rade54.html I presume.
>
> Mario St-Gelais
>
yes, and two others, too. Thanks!
Nick.
All supported and close-to-supported versions of OpenBSD have been
reloaded (5.4, 5.5, 5.6 and -current snapshots), rsync is back on.
Again ... my apologies for the inconvenience at a most inopportune time.
Nick.
On 11/01/14 09:06, Nick Holland wrote:
Due to an administrative error (hint
things you don't want, copy it over and and run pwd_mkdb. If the
starting and ending machines are supposed to be "identical", no fixing
should be needed.
Nick.
person who bought a laptop
or desktop pre-loaded with Windows 8, and wants to install OpenBSD with
as little disruption to the existing system as possible.
I appreciate the efforts, but we need something more comprehensive.
Sounds like I need to go buy a modern Windows system. :-/
Nick.
>
in the way
of ANYTHING else, and failure is fine, as long as there's an outside
company you can blame it on, a little unprofessionalism is a relief.
Nick.
.DRM has complicated much of this page!)
needs to be updated (oops).
Nick.
Il 21/nov/2013 13:43 "Stefan Sperling" ha scritto:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 01:05:34PM +0100, Paolo Aglialoro wrote:
Hi all,
since installing 5.4 release on my amd64 laptop I am enjoying really nice
(sun lik
mething to *also* zeroing the
assembled disk.
It takes but a couple seconds to do. Just do it.
Nick.
uot; is the safest and easiest.
Can you skip one? Maybe. If it fails, trust me, you will lose all the
time you think you saved, many times over)
Nick.
slow machine,
and it is somewhat hard to diagnose since the drive never returns an
error to the OS. If you have disk activity lights for each disk, it's
actually trivial to see where the machine is hung, but this machine's
manufacturer doesn't feel that disk activity lights are use
nt
"OpenBSD kernels", and not suddenly jump way off topic here.
I'm not a big fan of trying to deal with every imaginable way someone
could misunderstand something, but adding one word might make it more
clear, and I do seem to recall having wondered myself if I could boot
other OSses this way...so I have changed it to read "Can I boot other
kinds of OpenBSD kernels using PXE ..."
Nick.
ng you to do. Your use of non-words like "up2date"
is telling me you are trying to use some other model on OpenBSD.
Nick.
out to get access to
individal values of data would be several orders of magnitude slower
than a direct RAM access),
Nick.
dled like all
other /etc files -- you are given the choice of keeping the old,
installing the new, or merging for some combination of the two.
Nick.
7;t be "human noticable" (i.e., at least 2x performance), but might
be statistically significant. And I might be wrong -- it might be
noticable.
...
> # dmesg
> OpenBSD 5.4 (GENERIC.MP) #44: Tue Jul 30 12:13:32 MDT 2013
> dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
...[snip. Thanks for providing... lots of nvidia hw]
Would be interesting to try your test on a non-nvidia machine.
Nick.
to do the most logical next step that may fix the problem, or at
least get you closer to where the fix will happen. Any fixes you help
develop will be applied to -current first, and probably only.
Nick.
at's not the case, I just go into the directories that have bloated
excessively, find the oldest files, rm them.
Files in the /etc directory are usually too small to worry about.
/usr/lib are usually the ones I go after.
Nick.
ow is that Internet attacks are not a "oh, I was
unlucky here" thing -- if you expose a service, you are under CONSTANT
attack, if you have any kind of vulnerability, it WILL be exploited, and
rather soon.
Nick.
nstalling OpenBSD 5.3. I
then tried to install OpenBSD 5.2, which worked like a charm. The dmesg
of the running OpenBSD 5.2 under VMWare Server 2 follows at the end.
I am wondering if you could give me pointers as to why the install fails.
-- nick
+++dmesg of OpenBSD 5.2
OpenBSD 5.2
hopefully going to be replacing mfs (see
mount_tmpfs(8)).
Second, a reference in the FAQ to the man page would be good (for 5.5 or
later), but beyond that, as the concept is pretty simple, any
deficiencies should be addressed in the man page.
Nick.
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Simon Perreault <
simon.perrea...@viagenie.ca> wrote:
> Le 2014-01-25 14:40, Richard Procter a écrit :
>
> I'm not saying the calculation is bad. I'm saying it's being
>> calculated from the wrong copy of the data and by the wrong
>> device. And it's not just me s
+0x29
main(d02004f6,d02004fe,0,0,0) at main+0x3dd
Here is the "ps" output:
PID PPIDPGRPUID S FLAGS WAITCOMMAND
* 0 -1 0 0 7 0x200 swapper
-- nick
* Nick H. wrote on Jan 26, 2014 [21:23, +0800]
> Date:
put it in service, decom
the old machine...or minimum, swap the disks out of the old machine with
these newly configured disks.
This way, you never lose your functioning system...and you can freshen
your hardware, too.
Nick.
is in their mind. I may be better than some at this, but
obviously, I have a long way to go. :)
Nick.
l together.
The first section of faq9.html is also highly recommended for those
coming from other systems. The rest is Linux based and not of much
interest to you.
First section of faq5.html is also very important to understand, and it
sounds like you need to read through faq15.html as well.
Nick.
CAN'T be used
until someone commits to making the code to be run suck a lot less.
REAL security is not a list of features, even if used.
The OS is just the tip of the security iceberg...or maybe more
accurately, the base of it. You don't typically run an OS to run an OS.
You run the OS to run applications, and if those applications are
poorly written or poorly designed, there are limits to how much (if at
all) the OS can help. The best OpenBSD can do is give you a good
starting foundation.
Nick.
ta our customers entrust to us safe"?
(not to say there aren't places where OpenBSD's performance could be
increased, but the idea of taking an OS oriented to security and
claiming you want to make it the "fastest" is quite missing the point)
Nick.
ou will probably have to re-adjust your monitor. Fill the screen
("top" might do it sufficiently), and hit the "auto adjust" button,
tweek if needed with the manual adjustments.
Nick.
> OpenBSD 5.5 (GENERIC.MP) #315: Wed Mar 5 09:37:46 MST 2014
> dera...@amd64.openbsd.or
On 03/08/14 09:26, Chris Bennett wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 09:06:54AM -0500, Nick Holland wrote:
>> On 03/08/14 08:51, Chris Bennett wrote:
>> > As of this update, I have had these two portions of the screen move off
>> > of visible area.
>>
>> "
with double slashes.
So..the fact that relative links against an incorrect URL don't work is
not really an issue. If there's an issue here (and I don't believe
there is), maybe the webserver should have 404'd on the initial URL.
(I saw a discussion recently where the idea came up of increasing
donations by by changing 404 errors to 402. Yeah, I had to look it up,
too. So I expect everyone who participates in this thread WILL be
buying a CD set soon. :)
Nick.
aving to twist knobs for file systems should have been over
quite some years ago.
(Exception: when you make a partition small enough to be ffs, but plan
to growfs it later to a bigger size -- growfs works on ffs and ffs2, but
doesn't convert from one to the other. Oh poo. Just realized I forgot
to do this recently... )
Nick.
On 03/17/14 21:24, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> On 2014-03-17, Nick Holland wrote:
>> (Exception: when you make a partition small enough to be ffs, but plan
>> to growfs it later to a bigger size -- growfs works on ffs and ffs2, but
>> doesn't convert from one to the other.
in
a CARP pair (as I do), you just rebuild the second (standby) one the way
you want it, copy your data back to it, promote it to master, and do the
same for the other machine.
Nick.
> On March 17, 2014 8:40:34 PM CDT, Nick Holland
> wrote:
>>On 03/17/14 21:24, Stuart Henderson wr
fter the installation without reinstalling. Is possible?
>
> Thanks,
> Matias.-
>
depends...if you left unallocated disk space sufficient to build a new
RAID partition and copy your data over, sure.
Otherwise, it is rebuild from scratch.
Nick.
a lot of us would like to be educated on
this...or is it just a reluctance to change?
Nick.
the RAID idea and it
is a multi-booting system, bad things can happen when the BIOS "helps"
you by copying one drive over your other drive, so OpenBSD (and at least
some Linux kernels, I've seen) won't touch the drive if it was in the
unsupported RAID configuration mode.
Nick.
hines query the external address, and all Just Works.
And remember: if you wish to get more complicated, you can have lots of
localhosts. (127.0.0.2, 127.0.0.3 ...) and attach different services to
each.
Nick.
tools to keeping me humble: When I would write something I was very
proud of...then get a correction of my basic English from someone for
whom English is a fourth or fifth language, it's hard to get an inflated
ego. :)
Nick.
. News
flash: the world is changing -- The general public is starting to
realize that the people they entrust with their data ARE responsible for
the security of that data, and not quite willing to accept the same old
crap excuses anymore.
Nick.
On 04/08/14 16:35, Remy wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> here is a simple patch to replace /etc/crontab by /etc/cron.d/.
> You need to manually mkdir /etc/cron.d.
>
um. eight days late. I look forward to your contribution next year, but
try to hit the right date next time.
Nick.
make it run, submit the code,
keep it running, and your reward will be seeing a new platform supported
by OpenBSD...as long as you do the work to keep it running. Wow, that
sounds really depressing when I put it that way.
Nick.
-start when it comes to
saving money on electricity.
I've found a fair number of used "appliance" devices and "network
terminals" which are basically just special purpose PCs. Again, not as
low power as the ARM systems, but again, starting price of "near free"
is hard to beat.
Nick.
ing
redirection, then figures the OS is loaded and hands control of the
serial port over to the OS at that point. Not EXACTLY where I'd expect
that error, but ...
IF you are using a serial console, you would want to add a
/etc/boot.conf file to your CD with the serial redirection command on it
("set tty com0").
Nick.
e first generation of
Atom systems, the Northbridge chip drew more power than the CPU (really
-- the heatsink and fan was on the Northbridge chip, NOT the CPU!! This
may explain the lack of speedstep); if you could wack the CPU down to
zero power consumption (you can't), it would hardly have changed the
TOTAL system power draw at all.
Nick.
8G RAM (and a tiny SSD). wow, I don't
recall firefox coming up that fast in quite some time. Guess I need to
replace my desktop now.
Nick.
> Thank you.
>
> OpenBSD 5.5-current (GENERIC) #63: Tue Apr 29 02:37:44 MDT 2014
> t...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/co
o
excited about using the newer one as it had a LOT of additional dependencies
which are always "fun" (not really) to cram into a chroot and keep updated.
Nick.
and fairly portable.
You could probably stuff it into a one-liner in a crontab, but I would not
recommend it.
Nick.
backups of ALL configuration information. Drive
fails? you got a mirror. HW fails? you got spare, move the drives,
bring it up. Keep it simple, you will be happier.
Nick.
edicated device?
For a few reasons, I much prefer an external Access Point
A big one is, in my life firewalls are located in a place where APs
would be sub-optimal. Even back when I ran an OpenBSD access point,
(back in the wi(4) days!) it was a separate box well away from the
main firewall.
Nick.
ble softraid and move your boot drive data
AND the 2T of old data all to the one 4T array and still have a lot of new
space (a basic OpenBSD install is barely noticeable in a 4T disk!). Now
you have redundancy in both boot and data, and one less disk, which will be
a small power reduction, and one less point of failure.
Nick.
Hiya.
The OpenBSD.cs.toronto.edu mirror is having some issues, I'm
hopefully taking care of those right now, but it will take a
a number of hours while to be back up to a fully operational
state.
Services are off until it is fixed. Sorry for any inconveniences.
Nick.
ame back on line, so I brought it up to
-current, so it skipped a lot of releases. But it's /usr partition is
well under 50% full, so it has some life left...)
Nick.
I MAKEDEV'd 'em...but you might be using a different install
kernel than I was using. Good news, a reboot will clear and recreate
the /dev directory on install kernels (not on an installed machine, of
course).
Nick.
than stomping your feet and saying "it worked
before!". Obviously, things are different. The answer is almost
certainly in the dmesg.
Nick.
On 11/30/21 3:12 PM, Paul B. Henson wrote:
Thanks much for the info guys; something to look forward to in 7.1 :).
hint: snapshots that do what you need beat releases that don't.
Nick.
On 11/30/2021 4:17 AM, Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2021-11-30, Paul de Weerd wrote:
On Tue, Nov 30,
unexpected, but I'd expect the disk lights on the HW RAID attached
drives to periodically flicker even if sitting at the boot> prompt.
And...if you are running firefox or any other browser, you have a LOT of
packages loaded on your system. Good luck trying to quiet all of them.
(better idea: don't fight it).
Nick.
an external
speaker set? If external, do both internals work?
Have you verified both channels work with some other OS?
Nick.
ccount can read it, then
digest it on the nagios server.
I look at monitoring systems as "read only" apps. Some people disagree
with me...but I consider those people wrong. :)
Nick.
pot here:
https://nickh.org/warstories/adaptec.html
Nick.
rland app could program the GPU to put anything
you wanted in any part of memory?
This doesn't seem to fit very well with the OpenBSD goals.
Nick,
your code and reinvents it badly
--> You might want to use an ISC/BSD license.
The OpenBSD project would greatly prefer that their code be
reused, rather than re-invented poorly.
Nick.
han the missing images.
Nick.
ke sure you go the right direction. No, wrap it in a script that
makes it go the right direction. Dyslexics untie!
Nick.
t file, but you might have done it
manually not remembering that's an important file.
Nick.
dmesg:
OpenBSD 7.0 (GENERIC.MP) #5: Mon Jan 31 09:09:02 MST 2022
[snipped for size, but thanks!]
on't do 24 hour clocks well. The others are often run as
part of scripts. As someone who does a lot of scripting, inconsistency
between apps is not a problem for me. Changing the output format is a
really big problem.
Nick.
the same subnet as your machine...but you provided
no hard details, so it's just basic troubleshooting. Static IP configuration
definitely works with OpenBSD, so pretty sure you have something wrong,
declaring your config was correct and beyond question will prevent you
from fixing the problem.
Nick.
ine. But also look at softdep and noatime mount options, softdep
is a HUGE performance gain, noatime is a nice little kick with seemingly
zero consequences (it does defeat a standard Unix file system feature,
but I've not come across anything that uses file access time stamps).
Nick.
to do a final install a release back, then do a test
upgrade, to make sure you figure out any quirks before you have an
unexpected downtime during an upgrade.
Nick.
a bigger HD at one point, but I
think I imaged the drive over to the new drive).
Nick.
s
much more rewarding to most people to add features, not to debug
existing code...and thus, you end up with ... Linux and Mozilla
products.
Economics 101: doesn't matter what you say, it matters what you DO.
Everyone says security is important; few actually give a shit about
it.
Nick.
e "see also"s.)
Probably going to need to set up a "wrapper" script to do your
chroot'ing. But that's easy.
Dang, I just realized I need to migrate some old stuff from
rc.local to rc.d.
Nick.
eparated by an
international border and 400km :)
So ... I'd not suggest attaching it to an "important" system, but
rather dedicate an easily rebooted terminal server machine.
Nick.
l. Haven't used it, but it would be worth a
look at, I think.
Nick.
Leo
OpenBSD 7.0 (GENERIC.MP) #5: Mon Jan 31 09:09:02 MST 2022
r...@syspatch-70-amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 4177379328 (3983MB)
avail mem = 4034740224 (3847MB)
random: good
penBSD well without the encrypted disk,
before jumping into the full disk encryption (OpenBSD installs are so
fast and relatively painless, no reason to fret about getting everything
"just so" on the first install!).
Nick.
6-poe)
to plug the WiFi AP into, or whether I can plug the WiFi AP directly into
the OpenBSD server.
If the AP needs Power over Ethernet, you need a PoE switch or a PoE
injector. If it has some other way to get power and you don't have
anything else needing PoE, just do that...again, not an OpenBSD issue.
Nick.
On 4/2/22 12:56 PM, harold wrote:
...
I tell you my little story in the attached document,
Just a thought, but you might want to reconsider your means of telling
your story.
For example, I am not in the habit of opening unsolicited PDF documents...
Nick.
lding a Linux system is, the more likely it is to
be to make bad assumptions about what you are doing, and assume
you are running Windows+Linux.
Also...by design, real encrypted disks are fragile. Easy to mess
up, almost impossible to recover if messed up. That's a feature,
not a flaw.
So you have a doubly unstable system. Backups are critical. You
didn't have 'em.
Nick.
re of. I call that
success.
Yes, I'm working on re-doing it (i.e., clean slate so my (former)employer has
no gripes (and no internal information disclosure), but if you are adept at
scripting, it wasn't too difficult.
Nick.
r a new project and are new
enough to OpenBSD to not be super-comfortable with upgrades, I'd suggest
loading 6.9, set up your project, then do an upgrade to 7.0 now to get
comfortable with the upgrade process for your environment, then upgrade
again to 7.1 after it becomes available.
Nick.
isn't going through
syslogd in this case -- it is coming directly from tcpdump.
I probably got a few things wrong here. :)
Nick.
copy the new bsd to /bsd69 and
then do a "boot bsd69" and make sure it sees the disks properly before
committing to an actual upgrade. You will probably get all kinds of nasty
error messages, but if so, you know 6.9 is seeing the disk, and a full
upgrade should be safe.
Nick.
:
https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=126526614419455&w=2
It won't stop swapping, but *may* help other tasks get some time. I've found
it useful on disk I/O tied tasks, but never tried it with a swap-bound task.
I have no idea how it would impact a swapping process. Might solve your
problem, might do nothing ("doing nothing" counts as hurting when you make
changes to system scripts).
Nick.
ove the hard disk to another UEFI machine and do the install on it, then
move the disk back, hoping the other machine works better for the installer.
Nick.
e other ideas:
* Use a USB flash drive or SD flash card. Put it in when you need to
move files, remove it when you are done.
* External NFS server
* External SFTP server (could be a small VPS, so you could bounce
files between OSs literally anywhere. Or between users!)
But as I and others have said in the past, multiboot systems are
complicated.
Nick.
statement.
On the other hand, I've seen SSDs work differently enough from what
HW and SW expect that ... nothing would surprise me).
Nick.
ined about permissions on
bsd.upgrade, but upgraded perfectly (but I am not sure which of
the two copies of the kernel it used).
What can I do to help provide info to determine what is going on
here?
Nick.
OpenBSD 7.1-current (GENERIC.MP) #493: Tue May 3 12:14:02 MDT 2022
dera...@amd64.open
as connected).
I tried bsd.rd renamed "bsd" so it would only boot bsd.rd, and then firing
the machine up and plugged the monitor in AFTER the boot process (probably)
started hoping to see some indication on the screen of the crash. Result:
no display until the kernel crashes and the syste
On 5/6/22 2:30 PM, Nick Holland wrote:
On 5/6/22 12:48 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote:
Florian Obser wrote:
So, if you end up with a /bsd.upgrade on the running system that is
still mode 0700, your bootloader is on the fritz.
If you have a /bsd.upgrade that's 0600 your bootloader found the k
On 5/7/22 5:40 PM, Mike Larkin wrote:
On Fri, May 06, 2022 at 11:39:51PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
...
For giggles, I did a "gop" and a "video" at the boot> prompt, and both came
back with no response, just another boot> prompt.
just 'gop' amd 'v
rv71.tar
26.6M May 11 15:03 xshare71.tar
I think you have a problem with perspective here.
All of X (not just xbase) is about 300MB, and just isn't worth
worrying about today. What you save by skipping it, you will
more than make up for by trying to fix the problems you will
make for yourself.
Nick.
es required. (and yes, DNS has the master/slave
config with zone transfers, but I'd argue this is a better system.)
Nick.
't scale to a third OS,
but it works for me in this laptop.
I'm working on a better write-up (with fewer "IIRC"s :) ), but this might
be enough to get you started.
Nick.
remote "tar xf -"
(tar current directory to stdout, send it via SSH to computer
"remote", and untar in the current directory on the remote
computer)
This works for a lot of commands...
$ ssh remote "cat /etc/hosts" | diff -u - /etc/hosts
Nick.
de, but works pretty well in UEFI mode, and I could imagine
it going the other way, too.
Oh...a BIOS upgrade might be in order.
No promises.
Nick.
s after the dd is complete (if "reboot" even works
at that point).
However, you might want to think long and hard about committing to
a VPS that doesn't actively support the OS you wish to install. What
works today may faceplant tomorrow and they may not care at all to
fix it for you.
Nick.
reading).
5) X seems to just work. Have not used it extensively, though.
6) wired: re(4). Wireless (IF so equipped): iwm0
IF you happen to be in the Detroit, MI area and want one, I've got
too many, contact me off-list. Probably cost less than Ebay "shipping".
Nick.
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