On 11/28/21 6:17 PM, Alexander wrote: ...
Lastly: From your emails it seems to me that the use of sysclean after upgrading is very much encouraged if not necessary. Then why is it not included in base (especially when it's developed by OpenBSD developers)? Or am I misunderstanding the requirements for inclusion of packages in base?
VERY WRONG (as others have said). I've been using OpenBSD since v2.4, I have never run a "clean up" tool of any kind. I reinstall only when replacing hardware, the rest of the time, I run upgrades, I run snapshots and update frequently so I get a lot of old files piling up at times. And they just don't matter. Occasionally, I have manually deleted old libraries when I have run a system too long and an old HD starts getting tight on space, but that is usually an indicator that I should probably be looking at swapping out the hardware because it has done its time and I've probably got something better. And often not even then: $ ls -lt /usr/lib/|tail -4 -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 274965 Feb 9 2012 libpcap.so.6.0 -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 240930 Feb 9 2012 libkvm.so.12.0 -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 323995 Feb 9 2012 libexpat.so.9.0 -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 2593417 Feb 9 2012 libc.so.62.0 (wow. that's an old machine.) Using an automatic cleanup tool is far more likely to CAUSE problems than to fix problems. I'm not saying they /often/ cause problems, but since old files laying around basically never cause problems other than a small amount of space, there's some risk and almost no gain. That machine with files left over from 2012? It's got a 40G hard disk. You will have trouble convincing me in 2021 that you are running out of disk space and thus need to "clean" your system. $ dmesg|grep ^wd wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: <ST340014A> wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 38146MB, 78125000 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4 (to be fair, that machine fell off the 'net for a few years, I assumed it had died. Then it suddenly came back on line, so I brought it up to -current, so it skipped a lot of releases. But it's /usr partition is well under 50% full, so it has some life left...) Nick.
