Re: Question regarding hearbleed patch (002) for OpenBSD 5.5...

2014-05-09 Thread Ingo Schwarze
> What is the purpose static linking ftp(1) ? Imagine your system is really badly broken, for example ld.so or libc.so got deleted or broken. Then you can still use the statically linked tools in /bin and /sbin for repairs. But what if you need to fetch more tools or replacement parts over the

Re: Submitting Patches

2021-07-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ben, b...@0x1bi.net wrote on Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 01:44:41PM -0400: > I've made a patch for the Xenocara project, > and would like to submit it. So, why didn't you? This is absolutely not specific to OpenBSD: Never ask what to with patches without including them in the first message, for no

Re: support update

2021-08-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Duncan Hart wrote on Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 05:31:09PM +1000: > 0 > C Australia > P Victoria > T Melbourne > Z 3000 > A PO Box 2530 > O Applied OpenBSD > I Duncan Hart > M dun...@appliedopenbsd.com > U https://AppliedOpenBSD.com/ > B +61 3 7065 5840 > N Proactively secure web application develo

Re: Run a command on "last day of month"

2021-09-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Adam Paulukanis wrote on Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 04:39:54PM +0200: > if today is the last day of the month, tomorrow will be 1st. That is a non-portable assumption and a trap that many people seem to fall into. For example, in the shire calendar, 1 Afterlithe (~= July) is the fourth day after

Re: Snapshot generation stalled?

2021-09-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Karel, Karel Gardas wrote on Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 07:32:50PM +0200: > installed snapshot on amd64 week or so ago to see how it is working. > It's #195 from Aug 23. During the past few days I've checked from time > to time > with sysupgrade (with or without -s) but it always claimed I'm on th

Re: Are there any protection againts heisting the "shell builtin"s?

2021-09-08 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jim, jim hook wrote on Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 11:24:18AM +0200: > test$ cd > rmplayer > test$ > test$ type cd > cd is a function > test$ > test$ tail -4 .profile > cd() > { > echo rmplayer > } > test$ > test$ uname -mrs > OpenBSD 6.9 amd64 > test$ Those are useful features. I doubt you will fi

Re: Spleen with russian (maybe more) cyrillic symbols

2021-10-05 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Slava, Slava Voronzoff wrote on Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 03:01:26PM +0300: > I'm working right now on adding cyrillic to Spleen font. How can I later > add it to OpenBSD kernel and ports? Pull request to main font on github > (Hi, Frederic) or patch here? You cannot add it to the kernel because t

Re: MANPATH resets output paper setting

2021-11-05 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jan, Jan Stary wrote on Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 01:24:19PM +0100: > This is current/amd64 on a PC. > It seems that if MANPATH is set (to something nonempty), > the settings in /etc/man.conf get ignored: > > $ cat /etc/man.conf > output paper a4 > > $ man -Tps true | grep PageS

Re: MANPATH resets output paper setting

2021-11-06 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jan, Jan Stary wrote on Sat, Nov 06, 2021 at 04:05:10PM +0100: > Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Jan Stary wrote: >>> This is current/amd64 on a PC. >>> It seems that if MANPATH is set (to something nonempty), >>> the settings in /etc/man.conf get ignor

Re: Default window manager

2021-11-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, jwinnie@tilde.institute wrote on Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 04:34:48PM -0500: > I am wondering if there are plans to change the > default window manager in OpenBSD. No, i don't think there is any interest. Experience taught us that importing additional code into the base sytem is a bad idea unles

Re: Missing action list in lesskey man page

2021-12-06 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jason and Richard, Jason McIntyre wrote on Sat, Dec 04, 2021 at 09:18:56PM +: > On Sat, Dec 04, 2021 at 07:11:01PM +0100, Richard Ulmer wrote: >> jmc@ wrote: >>> the actions do indeed match those in the command list. whether there are >>> any undocumented ones, i don;t know. i suppose you'

Re: openbsd is shockingly good

2021-12-19 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, tetrahe...@danwin1210.de wrote on Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 09:37:35PM +: > I have to say I am really impressed. This is how IT should be done. My > compliments to the developers. Heh, you are evoking pleasant old memories. That's exactly how i felt shortly after a SysOp colleague made the c

Re: Is fw_update documentation outdated?

2021-12-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Alexander, Alexander wrote on Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 04:07:07PM +: > I just wanted to check for new firmware versions: > > $ fw_update -n > fw_update: unknown option -- -n > usage: fw_update [-d | -D] [-av] [-p path] [driver | file ...] > > This used to work /usr/sbin/fw_update used to b

Re: Is fw_update documentation outdated?

2021-12-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Alexander, Alexander wrote on Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 08:11:51PM +: > On 2021/12/25 18:02, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> The new fw_update shell script is not in CVS yet. >> >> This command provides a clue that could lead you to suspect the above: >> >>$ gr

Re: HW raid adapter - Adaptec 8405 SGL

2022-01-13 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Nick Holland wrote on Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 11:30:58AM -0500: > On 1/13/22 5:58 AM, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> On 2022-01-13, Aleksander Dzierżanowski wrote: >>> Is 'Adaptec 8405 SGL' hardware raid controller working under OpenBSD? >>> I saw there is *some* Adaptec support, but the model is n

Re: support update

2022-04-13 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Duncan, Duncan Hart wrote on Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 03:28:38AM -0400: > 0 > C Australia > P Victoria > T South Yarra > Z 3141 > A PO Box 530 > O Applied OpenBSD > I Duncan Hart > M dun...@appliedopenbsd.com > U https://AppliedOpenBSD.com > B +61 3 7065 5840 > N Proactively secure application dev

Re: rc.daily missing diff markers

2022-04-22 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Lyndon, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote on Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 09:33:57AM -0700: > In the output from the daily insecurity report run, the sections on > setuid and block device changes are missing any diff markup. The > remaining sections are fine. > > From this morning's post-7.1-upgrade run: > >

Re: rc.daily missing diff markers

2022-04-24 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Lyndon, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) wrote on Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 02:31:55PM -0700: > Sure. It just caught my attention today because this is probably > the first time I've seen such a large batch of changes in one email > like that. Which has no doubt happened endless times in the past

Re: How to Get the kernel-specific source or configuration of the distribution without installation

2022-04-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
; on different kernel versions without installation? OpenBSD does not support different kernel versions. The only officially supported version of the kernel is GENERIC{,MP}. All users are advised to run GENERIC or GENERIC.MP. The various RAMDISK* kernel configs you will find in the above directories are

Re: documentation

2022-05-24 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Tom Smyth wrote on Tue, May 24, 2022 at 05:02:42PM +0100: > On Tue, 24 May 2022 at 16:54, Gustavo Rios wrote: >> I would like to download a pdf version of the faq and pf guide >> for openbsd 7.1. I assume you are talking about https://www.openbsd.org/faq/index.html and https://www.ope

Re: Alternative mailing lists

2024-09-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hello, Anon Loli wrote on Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 05:22:50PM +: > In my opinion, OpenBSD has lied to us, primarily that bad manual > pages are considered as bugs. Just to remind people here how to best report documentation bugs, in the order of importance starting from the most important: 1.

Re: Alternative mailing lists

2024-09-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Anon Loli wrote on Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 06:39:20PM +: > I appreciate you being nice unlike the offended snowflakes. > My approach to manual pages for my OS will be the following, > which I consider to be THE BEST way for it: No need to yell at me, really. :-) > 1. The manual page shoul

Re: donation

2009-04-09 Thread Ingo Schwarze
eing discussed. When transferring the refund to the donations account in Munich, state in the reference text when and by which means the original donation had been transferred to Wim, and when and by which means it was refunded. Yours, Ingo - Forwarded message from Ingo Schwarze -

Re: where to order now ?

2009-04-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jeroen, > I do not know Wim personally. I have met Wim personally on more than one occasion, including having invited him for beer and dinner, and he always seemed a really nice guy. Being let down by somebody who might have become a friend is hard to bear. > Lemme say this, from what I know,

Re: Recommendations on a daily script to check syslog (or other) server security

2009-04-14 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ted, LeRoy, Ted wrote on Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 03:28:51PM -0400: > I'm pretty new to OpenBSD and BSD in general, In that case, welcome, but don't forget to read the fine manuals. Have a look at apropos(1) in particular. > but I have an OpenBSD Syslog server up and receiving data. > I'd like t

Re: Changing the daily / weekly scripts

2009-04-15 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jean-Francois, > I will move the following on my local box from daily to weekly.local > so that this part of code is executed once a week only. > It will therefore not be sent by mail since it seems to me that the > weekly is not logged via local email as the daily is. There is no difference b

Re: Way to tell ftpd to log IP of remote host?

2009-04-20 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Mark, Mark Bucciarelli wrote on Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 08:17:23AM -0500: > Mar 13 08:52:01 crosscutmedia ftpd[1728]: > connection from pool-68-239-27-14.bos.east.verizon.net [68.239.27.14] > Mar 13 08:52:09 crosscutmedia ftpd[4218]: > FTP LOGIN FROM pool-68-239-27-14.bos.east.verizon.net as

Re: Why so cool OS doesn't have vuln database?

2009-05-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Joachim, hi Yurij, Joachim Schipper wrote on Sat, May 16, 2009 at 01:23:20PM +0200: > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:39:06PM +0500, Yuriy Grishin wrote: >> I've installed OpenBSD 4.5 on my home gateway. >> Random pids and critical files permission are really cool. >> I just confused a little bit b

Re: old and new pf tandem test ---help

2009-05-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
mehma sarja wrote on Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:35:27AM -0700: > I want to test two pf firewalls in-line - an old openBSD (3.7 #50, That makes absolutely no sense. Don't run real servers with historical software. Run 4.5. > i386) is on the 'outside' and a new FreeBSD (7.2 #0 amd64) is on > the 'i

Re: old and new pf tandem test ---help

2009-05-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Yudhvir, mehma sarja wrote on Sun, May 17, 2009 at 01:27:12PM -0700: > a. The old firewall is in production and is running as expected - blocking > and passing as we need. > b. I am in the process of replacing it with a new one. It happens that > OpenBSD was inconvenient on the hardware we h

Re: correct way to call execve() with environ?

2009-06-05 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ted, > I want to call execve using my current set of environment variables. Any reason not to use plain execv(3)? Which problem are you trying to solve? Yours, Ingo -- I like "SEE ALSO".

Re: chown

2009-06-06 Thread Ingo Schwarze
>> find /data -name "*.dat" -exec chown user:group {} \; > chown -youroptionshere `find . -name "what_you_are_looking_for"` Oh well, why do you suggest bad solutions when good ones have already been brought up? find -print0 | xargs -0 is quick and safe find -print | xargsis quick b

Re: Easy way to follow -current, a write-up

2011-12-03 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Sime Ramov wrote on Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 12:04:41AM +0100: > * Antoine Jacoutot [2011-12-03 23:12+0100]: >> You cannot select etc.tgz and xetc.tgz when upgrading. > Ah, missed that. I usually do a full install on desktops so I don't pay > much attention to file sets. That sounds strange, e

Re: mandoc output to ascii - plaintext?

2011-12-13 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jiri, Jiri B wrote on Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 06:50:24PM -0500: > I wanted to grep a pattern from a manpage and was > very surprised I do not get "normal" plain text. > > $ mandoc /usr/local/man/man1/context.1 | cat -ntve | sed -n '123,124p' >123 -^H--^H-v^Hve^Her^Hrs^Hsi^Hio^Hon^Hn$

Re: Proper way to update system + ports?

2011-12-19 Thread Ingo Schwarze
ou, i'm probably going to clean this up using cvs up -A. Yours, Ingo schwarze@eos $ cvs status mandoc.* === File: mandoc.1 Status: Up-to-date Working revision:1.43 Repository revision: 1.43

Re: ISAKMPD question: ID-type ASN1_...?

2012-01-04 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Toni, Toni Mueller wrote on Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 06:09:55PM +0100: > I've run into an interoperability problem with an Astaro, which does > not like our certificate. The certificate basically looks like > > ... > Subject: C=DE, L=..., CN=IP-number > ... > Subject Alternative Name: IPv4 Ad

Re: Help with rc.local scripts

2012-01-06 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Keith, keith wrote on Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 05:01:08PM +: > I wouldn't know where to start to make a port, > but if there was a couple of easy howtos (I couldn't > see any) then I would give it a go. http://www.openbsd.org/faq/ports/ > When I finally get all this working I'll send my smal

Re: 'pkg_add -u' question

2012-01-14 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Dave, Dave Anderson wrote on Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 12:14:57PM -0500: > and then ran 'pkg_add -ui' it was unable to update those files: > "Couldn't find updates for uvideo-firmware-1.2p0, iwn-firmware-5.6p0". The firmwares live in a different package repository, that's why pkg_add(1) doesn't fi

Re: 'pkg_add -u' question

2012-01-15 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jason, Jason McIntyre wrote on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 08:28:29AM +: > ok, so perhaps the diff below will avoid future confusion. I agree with adding that information and don't strongly object to your wording, but given that fw_update(1) is just a wrapper around pkg_add(1), some might consid

Re: 'pkg_add -u' question

2012-01-15 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jason, Jason McIntyre wrote on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 01:01:50PM +0001: > On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:57:34AM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Jason McIntyre wrote on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 08:28:29AM +: >>> ok, so perhaps the diff below will avoid future confusion. >>

Re: use trap command in a script

2012-01-19 Thread Ingo Schwarze
For the -KILL = -9 signal, no signal handler can be installed, and it cannot be ignored either, see sigaction(2). That's the main feature of -KILL. Wesley M. wrote on Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 04:47:04PM +0400: > I want to see a message on console when i send signal like HUP > KILL INT and TERM > >

Re: locate weirdness

2012-01-19 Thread Ingo Schwarze
L. V. Lammert wrote on Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 09:20:44AM -0600: > On Thu, 19 Jan 2012, Paul de Weerd wrote: >> With apologies to all, this will be my last reply on this thread. > Really? That WOULD be nice. Hopefully you will abide by your promise. Sure, I'd appreciate if Paul wrote a bit more, in

Re: OpenBSD 5.0-current (GENERIC) #65: Thu Nov 3 00:58:36 MDT 2011

2012-01-21 Thread Ingo Schwarze
> my father always used to remind me that > "there are no stupid questions," Sure, that applies to children asking questions to their parents or teachers. It applies less when you call technical support; though the support staff will usually remain patient and polite as long as you pay good money

Re: Long delay updating xenocara source tree?

2012-02-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Jiri B wrote on Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 07:52:44AM -0500: > Somebody suggested: >> find . -path '*CVS/Root' | xargs rm > Never ever! Well, certainly not when you are working in a mixed tree intentionally using different servers for different subdirectories. However, on a laptop i'm carrying a

Re: Snappy Answers to Stupid Questions - WTF?

2012-03-09 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Brett wrote on Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 09:12:11AM +1100: > I noticed and think its a great title, because it would never be > approved by a marketing department. See, Nick *is* the honorary marketing department. Er... well... among other functions. (He is a bit into support as well, kind of.) And th

Re: mandoc's example.style.css?

2012-04-09 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Alan, Alan Corey wrote on Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 02:09:43PM -0400: > mandoc does a great job of making html files out of OpenBSD > manpages, but I happened to look at the source of one and see lots > of css classes defined. There's no internal style sheet in the page > and no reference to an ex

Re: security(8) and maildir

2012-04-14 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Zi Loff wrote on Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:43:32AM +0100: > security(8) complains about the permissions of my postfix's virtual > hosts maildir, I assume because of the directory mode bit. I once found > a patch to /usr/libexec/security that fixed it, but I can't seem to find > it anywhere now.

Re: DynDNS client

2012-04-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Johan Beisser wrote on Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 09:18:22AM -0700: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Laurence Rochfort > wrote: >> Is there a DynDNS client for OpenBSD? > Rolled my own in Python a while back. There are a few that're utter > overkill for "simple updater." If IP changes are rare

Re: openbsd debugger

2007-10-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Thomas, Thomas Bvrnert wrote on Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 10:26:13PM +0200: > if everyone want to see the openbsd debugger, > here a nice tipp or bug :-) > as root > ---snip--- > mount -o ro /& > mount -o ro / > ---snip--- In case this is supposed to be a bug report, you could be a bit more specif

Re: Remove escape characters from file

2007-10-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Peter, > does OpenBSD have a program/script to remove control characters (escape > sequence) from text files? Sure, sed 's/[^A-Z ]//g' No kidding: Usually you want to specify which characters to allow, not which characters to remove (default deny policy). In case you want to allow more than

Re: mutt + reply-to

2007-11-03 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Sean, > I realize this isn't directly OpenBSD-related, though believe I came > across a message in misc a while back That was me (on ports@, not misc@). > that discussed including a reply-to field in mutt. Er, well, mutt is able to set the Reply-To: all right. It is trivial to set arbitrary

Re: OpenBSD from scratch

2007-11-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Adrian Fisher wrote on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 06:47:56PM +: > I am sure many of you will be familiar with the web-site Linux from > scratch (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/) which is fine for those > who wish to use Linux but has anyone here tried it with Open? OpenBSD ist designed as a consis

Re: [OT] making Firefox respect telnet:// URLs

2007-11-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
> #!/bin/sh > xterm -e "telnet `echo ${*##telnet://} | sed 's/:/ /g'`" [...] > - I *think* the {} bit is awk(1), No, "/bin/sh" is not awk(1), but sh(1). =;c) [...] > If awk(1) can remove telnet:// from $* (if present), > then surely it should be able to turn a colon (if present) > into a space,

Re: updating source code from updated tarballs

2007-11-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
? It seems like a typical operation. > Comments? Part of what you say looks sound and standard, but part of it does not. Yours, Ingo -- Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Serverbetrieb usta.de / studis.de

Re: updating source code from updated tarballs

2007-11-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Juan, Juan Miscaro wrote on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 08:17:03AM -0500: > --- Nick Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Juan Miscaro wrote: >>> --- Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> The standard way to handle upgrades is to update the src >

Re: OpenBSD version / build question

2007-11-30 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Patrick, Patrick Smith wrote on Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:50:48AM -0800: > I'm upgrading a server from OpenBSD 4.1 to 4.2 and there are a number of > servers that have been done already. 'uname -a' tells me that they are: > > OpenBSD hostname 4.2 GENERIC#375 i386 > OpenBSD hostname 4.2 GENERIC#

Re: Machine will not recover from 'deep sleep' state [ IBM Thinkpad T41 ]

2007-12-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
To add a tiny bit of additional information to this one. On my IBM Thinkpad T41p (Type 2373-GKG S/N 99-95BGD 04/12), i see the following behaviour: Pau Amaro-Seoane wrote on Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 04:20:32PM +0100: > 2007/12/1, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On 11/6/07, Mark Thomas <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Machine will not recover from 'deep sleep' state [ IBM Thinkpad T41 ]

2007-12-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Jonathan Thornburg wrote on Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 11:30:41PM +: > I have a more favorable experience to report, albeit on a T41p: Me too using a T41p, so let's compare. See also my other post. > With 4.2 (both -release and now -stable), suspend works perfectly. > [Under 4.1 suspend would han

Re: OpenBSD version / build question

2007-12-03 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Patrick, patrimith wrote on Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 12:02:18PM -0800: > kern.version=OpenBSD 4.2 (GENERIC) #375: Tue Aug 28 10:38:44 MDT 2007 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC > > This is the one that I just installed. It does not report being one of > -release, -st

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-13 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Stuart Henderson wrote on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 06:43:00PM +: > On 2007/12/13 11:51, Richard Stallman wrote: >> I'm talking about something else: >> what the system distro suggests that the user do. > OpenBSD does not suggest that people use ports. > We suggest people use binary packages. I t

Re: BSD vs Debian

2007-12-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Lars Noodin wrote on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 07:14:41PM +0200: > However, since OpenBSD is a small project and to stay focused needs to > drop legacy releases, I can accept the need to migrate every 18 months > or so. Upgrading every 18 months is definitely too seldom. For roughly the last 6 months

Re: Usage of underscore in system accounts

2007-12-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
> and the early versions (say, OpenBSD 3.0) Hey, Nick! Stop making people feel so old, winter is depressive time anyway...;) -- Puffy, Live In Concert (Dec 1, 2001): "Don'T TELL AnyonE! I'm FREE!"

Re: Source code of OpenBSD packages.

2007-12-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Joco Salvatti wrote on Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 04:09:10PM -0200: > Does anyone know if there is a repository in which I could get the > source code of some OpenBSD packages? grep -F MASTER_SITE_OVERRIDE= /usr/ports/infrastructure/mk/bsd.port.mk

Re: Using Mail(1)

2007-12-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Pieter, Pieter Verberne wrote on Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 05:09:20PM +0100: > After some years of experience with Mutt I want to try Mail > (/usr/bin/mail):-) I'm very curious about how many people are > using Mail nowadays (on this list). I'm using it mainly for two purposes: 1) Sending test mes

Re: Using the C programming language

2007-12-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Marco, talking about strlcpy: > And now if the userspace people in linux would also adopt it > the world would be a better place. Can anyone say glibc? Ulrich Drepper at the least appears busy elsewhere: http://people.redhat.com/drepper/cpumemory.pdf "What Every Programmer Should Know About M

Re: Using the C programming language

2007-12-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Citing Marco again, concerning strlcpy, because this is even more relevant: > And now if the userspace people in linux would also adopt it the world > would be a better place. Can anyone say glibc? Actually, there is one additional paper on that web site: http://people.redhat.com/drepper/defpro

Re: Perpetually Current

2007-12-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Karsten McMinn wrote on Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 11:21:54AM -0800: > obviously automation. regardless of personal administration ethics > it seems like a fair question. If you understand the OP's question that way, you should also provide the following answer to the OP: There is no standard way for

Re: Perpetually Current

2008-01-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
22, 2002, upgraded to OpenBSD 3.2 on Jan 17, 2003. No, for those upgrades with 160 MB of total disk space, i could not use the official upgrade process, go figure... :-) But honestly, with any kind of Pentium II, what's your problem? All the best for the New Year, Ingo -- Ingo

Re: Updated ports/packages in -stable/-release

2008-01-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Nicolas, please also read the FAQ on www.openbsd.org. Nicolas Letellier schrieb am Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 10:50:43PM +0100: > If I want the last packages/ports, I use a -current system, with > -current ports tree. Last updates of softwares are in -current. Right. > On the other hand, they're

Re: the snapshot way

2008-01-06 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hallo Mihai, Mihai Popescu B. S. wrote on Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 01:00:19PM -0800: > I used to work with OpenBSD-realease and OpenBSD-stable by applying > the patches for the base and upgrade the packages. > > Since the packages are not updated anymore for the -stable branch (still no > announceme

Completeness & consistency, was: A sad thread

2008-01-07 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Reid Nichol wrote on Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 12:02:19AM -0800: > Duncan Patton a Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "Eliah Kagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> (There are also multiple useful, >>> mutually-inconsistent formal systems in both fields.) >> >> Provably so? > > I'd love an examp

Re: package tools misbehaving

2008-02-03 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Edd Barrett wrote on Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 11:18:49PM +: > pkg_add appears to be exiting straight away without installing anything. > > ---8<--- > # pkg_info > # echo $PKG_PATH > ftp://ftp.rt.fm/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/i386/ > # pkg_add -i rxvt jwm zsh xpdf vim mplayer pidgin silc irssi

Re: package tools misbehaving

2008-02-04 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Edd Barrett wrote on Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 12:24:22AM +: > On Feb 4, 2008 12:03 AM, Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> When you request a non-existant package, >> printing an error message and exiting is OK imho. > > Agree, but it did not exit directly afte

Re: What is our ultimate goal??

2008-02-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Zbigniew Baniewski wrote on Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 03:10:12PM +0100: >>> Are they willing to take a suggestions from the users side? Oh, that's an easy one. 1. Most suggestions go nowhere because those who like them lack the skills or the time to implement them, or the time to acquire the

Re: pkg_add -u

2008-03-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Fulvio, fulvio ciriaco wrote on Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:59:29PM +0100: > I have some ports updated by me, > e.g. emacs-22.1, sawfish-1.3.3 ... > When trying > pkg_add -ui > Candidates for updating sawfish-1.3.3p0 -> sawfish-1.3p9 > Candidates for updating auctex-11.14p1 -> auctex-11.14p1 > ...

Re: cvs usage question

2006-12-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
James Turner wrote on Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 11:28:43PM -0500: > jcs@ suggested looking at loginfo in CVSROOT, but I haven't had much luck > there. I added "^webapp cd /var/www/webapp && cvs update -d" but there > seems to be a locking issue, I'm guessing cvs update tries to run before > the comm

Re: cvs usage question

2006-12-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
James Turner wrote on Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 12:13:07AM -0500: > On Sun, 17 Dec 2006, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> James Turner wrote on Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 11:28:43PM -0500: >>> jcs@ suggested looking at loginfo in CVSROOT, but I haven't had much luck >>> there. I a

Re: Disable IPv6 on OpenBSD 4.0

2006-12-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Jason Dixon wrote on Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 03:17:01PM -0500: > On Dec 17, 2006, at 2:51 PM, carlopmart wrote: >> Yes, my security staff orders to disable IPv6 protocol >> on all our firewalls ... > Your security staff is clueless. > I bet they like to block icmp echo-request too. If they really f

Re: upgraded to current - need bnx firmware?

2006-12-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Ryan Flannery wrote on Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 07:26:59PM -0500: > On 12/26/06, George C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I just upgraded my 4.0 system to -current (GENERIC.MP), You mean, before that, you had a 4.0-release or -stable system? Just a wild guess since you explicitely mention the kernel: D

Re: upgraded to current - need bnx firmware?

2006-12-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
George C wrote on Wed, Dec 27, 2006 at 04:53:43PM -0500: > I had a 4.0-release install right from the cd pack. That's fine, indeed. :-) > I extracted the source from the cd and then updated it to -current > (both /usr/src and /usr/src/sys). then i built the new kernel, This is not the safest

Re: "Stock" fstab

2007-01-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Karl O. Pinc wrote on Mon, Jan 01, 2007 at 09:11:12PM +: > Is the "stock" fstab documented anywhere? That is, > the fstab that you get if you use the recommended > partitions that the install program sets up for you. The comments in the install script are nice to read: less /usr/src/distrib/m

Re: Wondering about usage of /usr/bin v /usr/local/bin...

2007-01-03 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Dave, Dave Ewart wrote on Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 01:32:04PM +: > I'm fairly new to OpenBSD right now and at the stage where I'm > trying to understand the differences between what I've been used > to in the past (typically Debian) and OpenBSD. Welcome. :-) > One thing I'm curious about is

Re: Wondering about usage of /usr/bin v /usr/local/bin...

2007-01-04 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Craig Skinner wrote on Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 12:14:32PM +: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 08:56:54PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> >> For example, on one small LAN with about 50 active users, i called >> that place /usr/usta: > > What does usta stand for? Oh, that

Re: SUN Fire x2200, anyone?

2007-01-04 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Toni Mueller wrote on Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 10:50:01PM +0100: > On Thu, 04.01.2007 at 22:04:34 +0100, Marc Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> @toni: as you might guess, the "hardware raid" of the nforce chipset >> doesn't work as hardware raid (except under w2k3 with the driver and >> maybe und

binpatch, was: moving kernels...

2007-01-06 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Marcos Laufer wrote on Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 11:03:10AM -0300: > From: "Tasmanian Devil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> http://openbsdbinpatch.sourceforge.net/ :-) > Wow, that openbsdbinpatch looks pretty good! I 've just downloaded it > and the idea of making binary patches in order to easily copy them t

Re: SUDO=sudo in mk.conf can't use it

2007-01-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Didier, Didier Wiroth wrote on Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 10:52:04AM +0100: > I can't "make build" with: > nice make SUDO=sudo build > or > nice make SUDO=/usr/bin/sudo build > > My mk.conf has the following entries: > SUDO=/usr/bin/sudo You need not state the same thing twice. If you define SUDO

Re: linux emulation without redhat_base

2007-02-13 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Karel, Karel Kulhavy wrote on Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:21:19AM +0100: > Now I avoided the NTPL problem by removing the redhat base and > copying only the libraries that printed an error that it wants > them. No comment whether this is a good or a bad idea. In case you get lost in the Linux lib

Re: "sh checkflist" after "make release" of 4.0-stable gives starnge result.

2007-02-13 Thread Ingo Schwarze
The short version is: /usr/src/distrib/sets/lists/base/mi seems to be out of sync for 4.0-stable since Feb. 4. The long version is: Didier Wiroth wrote on Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 01:29:28PM +0100: > I made a 4.0-stable "make release" on the amd64 architecture. > Running "sh checkflist" gives th

driver maintenance problems

2007-02-14 Thread Ingo Schwarze
*.html free_drivers.html: be good to have so that debugging doesn't have to be done by email, [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ grep -i fix free_drivers*.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ grep -i update free_drivers*.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ grep -i security free_drivers*.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] $

Re: fstab man page question

2007-02-21 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Greg, Greg Thomas wrote on Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 05:16:35PM -0800: > This has been bugging me for a couple of days, and I can't figure out > if I'm missing something or the fstab (or another) man page is. As fstab(5) does not explain any options except the generic ones rw ro sw xx

Re: Adding SWAP in fstab?

2007-02-22 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Sunnz wrote on Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 03:14:54PM +1100: > Sorry for the n00bish question, but I noticed that the swap partition > created during the installation wasn't defined in /etc/fstab. > Now, am I supposed to add it myself or is it necessarily at all? (wd0b) See swapctl(8): Note: The init

Re: [OT] Need a OpenBSD "Rock solid" aka "concrete" server?

2007-02-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
> http://daemons.gr/photos/stable-server/ > This concrete got in the Simulation Lab of NTUA through a hole > in the wall (hole for network). There was over 30cm of solid > concrete all over the lab... Even though it's well-known that remote exploits are usually conducted via network connections a

Re: no controlling tty error

2007-02-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
> sh: No controlling tty (open /dev/tty: Permission denied) > sh: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied Did you tighten up any permissions? # cd /dev; ls -al tty null crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel2, 2 Feb 26 22:29 null crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel1, 0 Feb 26 22:25 tty

Re: PKG_PATH pain

2007-03-07 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Peter, > I have a local FTP server that contains many packages. > When doing an install I want my pc to first check this server > before going onto the net. Why would you want to do that? This might be a bad idea in the first place. Suppose you got some package from a public mirror, and after

Re: updating installed ports

2007-03-09 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Peter schrieb am Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 11:08:30PM -0500: > Le Vendredi 9 Mars 2007 18:24, Joachim Schipper a icrit : >> On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 06:05:58PM -0500, Peter wrote: >> >>> On 4.0, besides uninstalling ports, updating the ports tree, and >>> re-installing is there any other way to do this?

Re: Contradictory statement on vulnerability

2007-03-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Karel Kulhavy wrote on Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:04:50PM +0100: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 01:33:36PM +0100, Vincent GROSS wrote: >> ok, I'll try to be clear : [...] >> so, in term of patching, >> release + errata = stable and >> release < stable < current > > Thanks, this is a much better expl

Re: No Blob without Puffy

2007-03-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Karel, Karel Kulhavy wrote on Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 10:38:11AM +0100: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:38:05PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> Someone asked: >>> Is it true that Puffy is not here because of Theo's concerns >>> about his copyrighted Puffy logo? >>> http://misc.allbsd.de/Kampagnen/NoB

Re: Symbols in a .so

2007-03-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Woodchuck wrote on Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 10:10:46PM -0400: > Hadn't noticed that readelf thing before. No man page. You seem to have a point. > Hmmm. Smells gnuish... Don't blame the missing man page on the GNU. It is being built, but it is not being installed. Index: gnu/usr.bin/binutils/Ma

Re: No Blob without Puffy

2007-03-19 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Pawel, Pawel Jakub Dawidek schrieb am Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 03:02:47PM +0100: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:38:05PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> So isn't it rather hypocritical to have a anti-Blob campaign, backed >> by projects which embrace the Blob? > So isn't it rather hypocritical to cla

Re: Request for links to BSD adminstration docs

2007-03-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
J.C. Roberts wrote on Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 06:36:34AM -0700: > On Thursday 22 March 2007 22:08, Darrin Chandler wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 12:40:48AM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: >>> Do you run the rebuild niced? >> I don't. I want it to be done as soon as possible. This makes very li

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