On 6/29/05, Matthew S Elmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Jason Crawford wrote:
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> > So just because I'm too poor to get a colocated server, if I want to
> > run my own mail server, I'm just shit out of luck?
>
> Yes.
This is something that should be fixed, no?
>
> > That seems unaccept
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 09:11:25 -0600, Bob Beck proclaimed...
> Like I said, personally, I've just stopped using
> spews[12]. they've gotten too aggressive. Before there were any
> other options this might have made sense. Now there are, and imnso
> this level of baby-in-bathwater chucking is
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 10:20:44 -0400, Jason Crawford proclaimed...
> Just because I have comcast doesn't make me clueless. Trust me, I'd go
> with another provider, but they are the ONLY cable internet provider
> in the baltimore area, and the price to bandwidth ratio is better than
> dsl, as the
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 11:24:43 -0400, Jason Crawford proclaimed...
> I am sorry for going OT and seeming to go on a tangent, but the
> beliefs of some of the people about spam and what to do about it just
> baffles me. I was giving Eric advice as well, however it probably got
> lost in my long par
Hey Bob, thanks for your replies.
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 08:36:41 -0600, Bob Beck proclaimed...
> The problem is that spews tends to blacklist the entire provider,
> including their smtp server, so people who have the service have no
> choice of using a smarthost to forward mail out.
>
>
Jason Crawford wrote:
So just because I'm too poor to get a colocated server, if I want to
run my own mail server, I'm just shit out of luck?
Yes.
That seems unacceptable to me.
Life sucks.
Look, I do not want this to turn into a flamewar. Those are reserved for
slashdot, not [EMAIL PR
I don't see how bandwidth would increase, since the spam servers are
sending you mail whether they are blacklisted or not. Blacklisting an
IP doesn't magically make it stop sending bytes to your computer via
the internet. I don't really see how it would cause any additional
server space either. Alm
I am sorry for going OT and seeming to go on a tangent, but the
beliefs of some of the people about spam and what to do about it just
baffles me. I was giving Eric advice as well, however it probably got
lost in my long paragraphs.
Eric, I would suggest using little to no blacklists at all, and ju
Jason, this isn't an openbsd issue. it's a spews issue.
Like I said, personally, I've just stopped using
spews[12]. they've gotten too aggressive. Before there were any
other options this might have made sense. Now there are, and imnso
this level of baby-in-bathwater chucking is si
In response to the how would it increase cost question, anytime a
provider has to deal with more spam it costs more money, additional
manpower to process abuse complaints, additional bandwidth, server space
etc.
Brian
On 6/29/05, Gordon Grieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 10:20:44AM -0400, Jason Crawford wrote:
> >
> > So just because I'm too poor to get a colocated server, if I want to
> > run my own mail server, I'm just shit out of luck? That seems
> > unacceptable to me. The ability
> > complaining, tell them to send through a non blacklisted SMTP server.
The problem is that spews tends to blacklist the entire provider,
including their smtp server, so people who have the service have no
choice of using a smarthost to forward mail out.
Short answer? don't use
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 10:20:44AM -0400, Jason Crawford wrote:
>
> So just because I'm too poor to get a colocated server, if I want to
> run my own mail server, I'm just shit out of luck? That seems
> unacceptable to me. The ability to run an email server shouldn't be in
> direct relation to how
On 6/29/05, Matthew S Elmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Probably because a very high percentage of spam comes from comcast IP
> space. Their customer base is completely clueless. If someone is
Just because I have comcast doesn't make me clueless. Trust me, I'd go
with another provider, but they
Spews blacklists many many many things. if you don't like this,
don't use spews 1. I personally stopped using it a while ago when it got
too aggressive, and I find simply that gerylisting with good greytraps
is much more effective without cutting things off.
-Bob
* eric <[EMAIL
Probably because a very high percentage of spam comes from comcast IP
space. Their customer base is completely clueless. If someone is
complaining, tell them to send through a non blacklisted SMTP server.
That IP space is in the list for a reason.
On Jun 29, 2005, at 12:23 AM, eric wrote:
Has
Has anyone notice a huge amount of problems with spamd(8) and Comcast/ATT
Worldnet Service mail servers? Seems that things like 204.127.198.34, and
almost everything in 204.127 is in spews1.
If anyone has a way around this (to only greylist the poor souls that use
comcast), please lemme know. I'd
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