On 6/29/05, Gordon Grieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 10:20:44AM -0400, Jason Crawford wrote: > > > > So just because I'm too poor to get a colocated server, if I want to > > run my own mail server, I'm just shit out of luck? That seems > > unacceptable to me. The ability to run an email server shouldn't be in > > direct relation to how much money I make, which I thought was part of > > the point to OpenBSD, free. Any residential ISP will have customers > > If they *didn't* blacklist DSL/cable IPs then the amount of spam and > the cost to handle it all increases. Ergo your bill goes up
I'd really like to know how it would increase costs. Not every email server even uses those blacklists, so they handle the amount of spam that would occur if those IP's weren't on them. A simple grey-listing scheme would really be all you need, since that would allow valid email through, and add known good mail servers to a white-list. Grey-trapping would help too I think, although not so much for some email servers, like the large, free ones. Although there are some ways, like with Gmail only allowing email addresses of a certain length or more (I believe 6 characters), they could grey-trap any common 5 char or below email address. I really don't see much point to blacklists at all if there is grey-listing on the mail server, and it uses very little CPU at all (OpenBSD's spamd is designed specifically for that reason). So, how would this make costs of anything go up? Especially with all the free email services out there. Blacklists are, IMO, just a way of people ignoring a problem that won't go away until something is ACTUALLY done about it, like educating us stupid, clueless Comcast customers. > eventually. My cable provider's residential IPs are on several blacklists, > I've set up SMTP forwarding to the ISP's servers and All Is Well. > > Yeah, it sucks that I can't send direct without fear of being dropped > but for less than a couple of bucks a day I can't complain too loudly. > > > > -- > Gordon Grieder Join us, get cracking! > www.grub.net www.distributed.net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
