On 2013-06-22, William Orr wrote:
> I currently have an untested (I'm going to spin up some EC2 instances to
> do testing this weekend) start on a port to linux on GitHub:
> https://github.com/worr/spamd
>
> So my questions:
> Is there anything else I need to do to make sure that I'm kosher with
2013/2/22 Theo de Raadt :
> It is not allowed.
I thought the same.
So https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Openbsd2.svg is really a violation?
Best
Martin
It is not allowed.
I think the existing rules are fair, and I don't understand why there
is often an attempt to subvert this.
Realistically --- most other projects have rules much tighter. Most
of them are trademarks.
> I'm thinking about creating a community ad for
> http://meta.unix.stackexch
On 2013 Jan 07 (Mon) at 23:50:04 -0800 (-0800), noah pugsley wrote:
So what? This is radically off-topic, please don't bring this kind of
crap to misc@.
--
You may be sure that when a man begins to call himself a "realist," he
is preparing to do something he is secretly ashamed of doing.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:25 PM, J.C. Roberts wrote:
>
> > If I have clean licensing on everything, can
> > I then ask for addition to the tree?
> >
>
> Of course you can ask, and if the port is both well done and well
> tested, then someone else might have enough interest to take the time
> to co
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 06:35:03 -0600 Ted Roby wrote:
> >
> > All of the above means you only have two choices:
> >
> > A.) Contact the rights holder and convince them to change the
> > license.
> > B.) Maintain a port on your own, posting your updates to
> > ports@, and do *NOT* expect (or ask for
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:52:55 -0600
Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >
> > There's non-free software in the ports tree.
>
> Not in a real sense. The ports tree is a build infrastructure
> containing Makefiles, lists of files and where they should go, and (in
> a perfect world, continously shrinking) minim
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:30 AM, J.C. Roberts wrote:
>
>
>
> Ted,
>
> 1.) A license declaration within a source file takes precedence over a
> license in an accompanying file.
>
So, locality is more important than an air of officiality. Good.
>
> 2.) Even if you could trace how the file got i
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:57:40 -0600 Ted Roby wrote:
> Now, did umplawny have the original right to put his restricted
> code into a project that was much more loosely licensed?
>
> If he did not, can I use his improperly licensed code (ie. does he
> forfeit his license by superseding restrictions
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Henning Brauer wrote:
>
> find all(!) copyright holders and have them agree to a new license. or
> don't use that code.
>
>
There are at least three projects involved here.
1. The Diku project
2. The Merc project
3. The "Forsaken Lands" project
The Diku and Merc
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Thomas Pfaff wrote:
> There's non-free software in the ports tree.
Good thing it's in ports, then. Keeps that shady license where we can
see it, and choose to suffer with it or not.
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:41:35 -0600
> Ted Roby wrote:
> >
> > I didn't think OpenBSD was even interested in such licensing
> > schemes in the Ports tree.
> >
>
> There's non-free software in the ports tree.
Not in a real sense. The ports tree is a build infrastructure
containing Makefiles, l
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:41:35 -0600
Ted Roby wrote:
>
> I didn't think OpenBSD was even interested in such licensing
> schemes in the Ports tree.
>
There's non-free software in the ports tree.
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ted Unangst wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
> > So how does that work with OpenBSD? How to I introduce
> > code with shady licensing, and take all the brunt of it?
>
> I don't suppose you've stopped to ask if the OpenBSD project is at
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
> So how does that work with OpenBSD? How to I introduce
> code with shady licensing, and take all the brunt of it?
I don't suppose you've stopped to ask if the OpenBSD project is at all
interested in whatever code you feel like contributing?
* Ted Roby [2010-04-15 17:53]:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Chris Dukes wrote:
> > 1. .. either track down someone with the right to change...
>
> Been there.. did it...thanks...
>
> > 2 ... or else be the point of first blame in seeing if...
>
> Now that's what I'm interested in! I
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Chris Dukes wrote:
>
> You are the one interested in resurrecting this beast.
> The onus is you to either track down someone with the right to change
> the license, or else be the point of first blame in seeing if the author
> will actually enforce the copyright.
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Chris Dukes wrote:
>
>
> As for the personal attacks, you can print off this email,
> fold it until it's all corners, and shove it up your ass.
>
>
Now that was far longer than your first one-liner smackdown.
Good job.
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 05:35:34AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
Look,
You gave no indication if you actually bothered to track down the author
or discuss relicensing with the author. Enough people don't think
"Maybe I should ask the author."
You also gave a less than clear indication of "I really liked
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Sean Kamath wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
> > I got more help from the first poster who suggested using
> > Circle Mud instead. The problem is, I was quite attached to
> > to this modified Rom code, and perhaps committed the
> > error of g
On Apr 14, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
> I got more help from the first poster who suggested using
> Circle Mud instead. The problem is, I was quite attached to
> to this modified Rom code, and perhaps committed the
> error of getting my hopes up.
You just weren't to to clear in your first p
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Bryan wrote:
>
> I thought "nothing" was "zero", and NUL was the absence of nothing...
>
Wouldn't NULL be the absence of everything, including numerical 0?
Dropping the semantics I'd have to say this thread is NULL, and yet
it is full of... well, whatever tha
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Paul M wrote:
>
> Please clarify what you want from this list.
>
>
Peace, Love and Understanding.
Yeah right..
I got more help from the first poster who suggested using
Circle Mud instead. The problem is, I was quite attached to
to this modified Rom code, and pe
On 15/04/2010, at 8:16 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
I had googled all of this before my first post.
In fact, I have been in contact with the current
maintainers of the project. They have explicit
permission, but that doesn't give me explicit
permission.
Ok, now I'm confused.
You've been ranting for a
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Sean Kamath wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
>
>> You blew off on this message board assuming I hadn't even
>> googled, or found our friend Voytek Plawny.
>>
>
> So? Inquiring minds want to know! *Is* he the guy at EA? And more
> important
On Apr 14, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
You blew off on this message board assuming I hadn't even
googled, or found our friend Voytek Plawny.
So? Inquiring minds want to know! *Is* he the guy at EA? And more
importantly, is he still a dick?
Sean
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Chris wrote:
>
> You're kidding us, right? You can't bother to google something so
> basic, you complain when someone points you in the right direction,
> make a quick detour for a spelling flame, then act like it'd be way
> more work to email a couple of guys ra
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Sean Kamath wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
>
>> Please tell me what I should do with his permission?
>>
>> At best, he can let me host my own mud with his code.
>> At worst, he must rewrite his entire license in all the associated
>> files
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Sean Kamath wrote:
>
>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
Please tell me what I should do with his permission?
At best, he can let me host my own mud with his code.
At worst, he must rewrite his entire license in all the associated
files.
Now *that* is an interesting question. As the original author, the
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Sean Kamath wrote:
>
> Which is it: you're ticked off the original lmgtfy reply pointed to a pay
> site, or that we tried to point out if you cared *that* much about finding
> the original auther, it shouldn't be that hard?
>
> Sean
I reluctantly reply to the
On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Sean Kamath
wrote:
On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
/* umpla...@cc.umanitoba.ca
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Sean Kamath wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
>>>
/* umpla...@cc.umanitoba.ca
>>> */
>>>
>>> http://lmgt
On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
/* umpla...@cc.umanitoba.ca
*/
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=plawny+umanitoba
I think you'll find a good idea of who to write care of which
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
> > /* umpla...@cc.umanitoba.ca
> */
>
> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=plawny+umanitoba
>
> I think you'll find a good idea of who to write care of which company.
> --
> Chris Dukes
>
Are you
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
> /* umpla...@cc.umanitoba.ca */
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=plawny+umanitoba
I think you'll find a good idea of who to write care of which company.
--
Chris Dukes
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
> Time for me to write OpenMUD?
I've had fond memories of CircleMud, and I believe the maintainer is
still around.
--
http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk
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Benjamin Adams wrote on Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 02:21:31PM -0400:
> I'm looking for some clarification on Licensing.
> I'm looking to build a product using:
> OpenBSD
> MySQL
Note that the MySQL client libraries are licenced under the GPL, not
under the LGPL, with an explicit exception from the GPL
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Benjamin Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm looking for some clarification on Licensing. I'm looking to build
> a product using:
> OpenBSD
> Tomcat
> MySQL
> Java
>
> I know OpenBSD is do what you want. Anyone know what sun says for licensing?
> I'm looking to
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