BUT I WILL STILL GO ON SPREADING THE LIE THAT OpenBSD CONTAINS
NON-FREE SOFTWARE SO PEOPLE ARE MISLEAD
I never intentionally said such a thing. It was a misunderstanding,
because I chose words that were subject to misinterpretation.
I appreciate having been informed about the unclear
On Jan 5, 2008 11:24 AM, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This continues the pattern of straw men. Over and over,
> people on this list criticize me for doing something which
> neither I nor anyone else here actually thinks is wrong.
>
Please list the names of so called straw men i
2008/1/5, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I was a bit curious about what would someone who reads web-sites by
> using a wget daemon through e-mails whose own web-site looks like...
> well...
>
> Apache httpd 2.0.54 ((Debian GNU/Linux) DAV/2 SVN/1.2.0 PHP/4.3.10-22
> mod_
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 12:09:16 +0200, Denis Doroshenko wrote:
>On Jan 5, 2008 7:54 AM, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Apache httpd 2.0.54 ((Debian GNU/Linux) DAV/2 SVN/1.2.0 PHP/4.3.10-22
>> mod_ssl/2.0.54 OpenSSL/0.9.7e)
>>
>> I have nothing against running a web site.
>
>you
On Jan 5, 2008 7:54 AM, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Apache httpd 2.0.54 ((Debian GNU/Linux) DAV/2 SVN/1.2.0 PHP/4.3.10-22
> mod_ssl/2.0.54 OpenSSL/0.9.7e)
>
> I have nothing against running a web site.
you have *nothing* against a distribution that makes it easier to inst
On Jan 5, 2008 11:24 AM, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was a bit curious about what would someone who reads web-sites by
> using a wget daemon through e-mails whose own web-site looks like...
> well...
>
> Apache httpd 2.0.54 ((Debian GNU/Linux) DAV/2 SVN/1.2.0 PHP
keeps objecting that he doesn't object.
I was a bit curious about what would someone who reads web-sites by
using a wget daemon through e-mails whose own web-site looks like...
well...
Apache httpd 2.0.54 ((Debian GNU/Linux) DAV/2 SVN/1.2.0 PHP/4.3.10-22
mod_ssl/2.0.54 OpenSSL/0.9.7e)
I use wget for personal reasons
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 02:49:45PM -0800, Ted Unangst wrote:
On Jan 4, 2008 2:31 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What I find even more hysterical is your lack of english comprehension,
for what I said is that restrictions against com
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
know what proprietary means. if you don't
understand the big words, stop using them. you also totally failed to
comprehend the license.
No, I understood it quite well.
Yes, no I did not understood it nor not quite never well.
what i find even more hy
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
Neither do you
that's insulting.
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 02:49:45PM -0800, Ted Unangst wrote:
> On Jan 4, 2008 2:31 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What I find even more hysterical is your lack of english comprehension,
> > for what I said is that restrictions against commercial usage make it
> > proprie
On Jan 4, 2008 2:31 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What I find even more hysterical is your lack of english comprehension,
> for what I said is that restrictions against commercial usage make it
> proprietary, not that I need that piece of software.
you still don't get to
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 02:26:12PM -0800, Ted Unangst wrote:
> On Jan 4, 2008 1:22 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Otherwise why should he repeatedly say some thin that is not
> > > proprietary as proprietary even after being informed by tedu and
> > > others?
> >
> > B
On Jan 4, 2008 1:22 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Otherwise why should he repeatedly say some thin that is not
> > proprietary as proprietary even after being informed by tedu and
> > others?
>
> Because for me it is proprietary when I can't run it in a commercial
> con
that's right, it's there!
eh, Richard, my mom told me once that it is the best thing to tell
truth, even when the truth is salty, as when you start to lie, you
cannot stop and eventually you get all your lies exposed.
Server: Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux) DAV/2 SVN/1.2.0 PHP/4.3.10-22
mod_ssl/2
> > > FYI, I continually remove people from the CC on mailing-list posts.
> >
> > Yet you have no idea whether these people are subscribed to these
> > mailing lists.
>
> If they are not, why do their emails get into the mailing list?
Because they sent it to it.
> Some moderator enjoys letting
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 3:21 PM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: FW: Real men don't attack straw men
Daniel Ouellet wrote:
>
>Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jan 03
Rui, I kindly ask you to not remove Richards's e-mail, since he is as
interested as everyone else who follows this thread.
Richard does not receive duplicated e-mail, since he is not in
misc@openbsd.org, so don't hesitate to add him.
Greetings.
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 05:44:59PM +0530, Siju George wrote:
> :-) that was to the guy who called you a troll right?
> I said perhaps you are a paid FSF mercenary or as you accused me
> "delusional" :-)
I wish I was paid to only work on Free Software, I'd be much more
productive.
Rui
--
Today
2008/1/4, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 07:08:12PM -0700, L wrote:
> > That is an insult! Why are you being so mean to Marco?
>
> Right, his extreme insults are meaningless and unprovocative.
>
> > And why are you being so mean to me too? I read this list to
On Jan 4, 2008 2:52 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 02:15:08PM +0530, Siju George wrote:
> > On Jan 4, 2008 1:03 AM, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Rui Miguel Silva is continually making you guys remove
> > > from the cc's of your mes
On Jan 4, 2008 10:51 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 09:56:03AM +0100, Karl Sjodahl - dunceor wrote:
> > This is a unmoderated list and unsubscribed people can mail to it.
>
> If one doesn't want to hear what outsiders want to say, then perhaps
> pos
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 09:56:03AM +0100, Karl Sjodahl - dunceor wrote:
> This is a unmoderated list and unsubscribed people can mail to it.
If one doesn't want to hear what outsiders want to say, then perhaps
posting should be restricted to list members.
Rui
--
This statement is false.
Today i
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 07:08:12PM -0700, L wrote:
> That is an insult! Why are you being so mean to Marco?
Right, his extreme insults are meaningless and unprovocative.
> And why are you being so mean to me too? I read this list too!
> You are insulting me!
Right, did the hat fit? Because I sai
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 02:15:08PM +0530, Siju George wrote:
> On Jan 4, 2008 1:03 AM, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Rui Miguel Silva is continually making you guys remove
> > from the cc's of your messages.
>
> Who knows?
> Perhaps He gets Paid for it, and for this violent defense
On Jan 4, 2008 9:14 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:00:55PM +, Miod Vallat wrote:
> > > > Rui Miguel Silva is continually making you guys remove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > from the cc's of your messages.
> > >
> > > FYI, I continually remove pe
to flame rms, it is best to keep him cc'd.
>
>
> > > From: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:48 PM
> > > To: Openbsd Misc (E-mail)
> > > Subject: Re: FW: Real men don't attack straw men
> > >
> > >
>
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:00:55PM +, Miod Vallat wrote:
> > > Rui Miguel Silva is continually making you guys remove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > from the cc's of your messages.
> >
> > FYI, I continually remove people from the CC on mailing-list posts.
>
> Yet you have no idea whether these peop
Hmmm Mr. Stallman is this your home page: stallman.org
I was a bit curious about what would someone who reads web-sites by
using a wget daemon through e-mails whose own web-site looks like...
well...
Apache httpd 2.0.54 ((Debian GNU/Linux) DAV/2 SVN/1.2.0 PHP/4.3.10-22
mod_ssl/2.0.54 OpenSSL/0.9.
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:34:24PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
It would be nice if people would stop defending non defensible
hypocritical positions. His arguments are a misleading hyperbole.
Your attitude is also indefensible and ostentiously hypocrit
On 1/3/08, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> He didn't say OpenBSD was non-free, but that it distributed non-free
> Software.
>
> Looking at
> ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.2/packages/i386/zangband-2.6.2p1.tgz
>
> ... seems to me pretty a pretty clear case.
stop repeating
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:33:26PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
Rui Miguel Silva is continually making you guys remove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from the cc's of your messages.
FYI, I continually remove people from the CC on mailing-list posts.
I consider it rude to rece
> > Rui Miguel Silva is continually making you guys remove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > from the cc's of your messages.
>
> FYI, I continually remove people from the CC on mailing-list posts.
Yet you have no idea whether these people are subscribed to these
mailing lists.
> I consider it rude to receiv
Re-adding RMS.
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:34:24PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:48:13PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:05:37PM -0500, Stuart VanZee wrote:
> > > Wow... it is incredibly telling that you chose a game, a pretty
> > >
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:34:24PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> It would be nice if people would stop defending non defensible
> hypocritical positions. His arguments are a misleading hyperbole.
Your attitude is also indefensible and ostentiously hypocritical, with a
rudeness that only "adds"
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:33:26PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> Rui Miguel Silva is continually making you guys remove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> from the cc's of your messages.
FYI, I continually remove people from the CC on mailing-list posts.
I consider it rude to receive duplicate email.
> If you
(E-mail)
> > Subject: Re: FW: Real men don't attack straw men
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:05:37PM -0500, Stuart VanZee wrote:
> > > Wow... it is incredibly telling that you chose a game, a pretty
> > > obscure one at that as far as I can tell
Watch your blood pressure there Stuart.
-Original Message-
From: "Stuart VanZee"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 3-1-08 20:23:52
To: "Openbsd Misc (E-mail)"
Subject: Re: FW: Real men don't attack straw men
> From: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
> Sent: Thu
> From: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:48 PM
> To: Openbsd Misc (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: FW: Real men don't attack straw men
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:05:37PM -0500, Stuart VanZee wrote:
> > Wow... it is incredibly telling
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:48:13PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:05:37PM -0500, Stuart VanZee wrote:
> > Wow... it is incredibly telling that you chose a game, a pretty
> > obscure one at that as far as I can tell, to base your argument on.
> >
> > The world wil
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 06:30:44PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 01:23:21PM -0500, William Boshuck wrote:
> > Richard Stallman referred to certain URLs in certain Makefiles
> > in the ports tree---not the collection of packages, after (in
> > the interview which in
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:48:13PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:05:37PM -0500, Stuart VanZee wrote:
> > Wow... it is incredibly telling that you chose a game, a pretty
> > obscure one at that as far as I can tell, to base your argument on.
> >
> > The world wil
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 01:23:21PM -0500, William Boshuck wrote:
> Richard Stallman referred to certain URLs in certain Makefiles
> in the ports tree---not the collection of packages, after (in
> the interview which indirectly prompted this thread) confusing
> OpenBSD's ports tree with its installa
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On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:05:37PM -0500, Stuart VanZee wrote:
> Wow... it is incredibly telling that you chose a game, a pretty
> obscure one at that as far as I can tell, to base your argument on.
>
> The world will fall because OpenBSD "recommends" that people
> install a game... a game that is
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