Re-adding RMS.
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:34:24PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:48:13PM +0000, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:05:37PM -0500, Stuart VanZee wrote:
> > > Wow... it is incredibly telling that you chose a game, a pretty
> > > obscure one at that as far as I can tell, to base your argument on.
> > >
> > > The world will fall because OpenBSD "recommends" that people
> > > install a game... a game that is free to copy and use for non-
> > > commercial use (I looked it up), and you had to go through almost
> > > the ENTIRE package collection all the way to the Zs before you
> > > could find such a pitiful example.
> >
> > Because they are such pitiful cases, they could be easily removed and
> > remove Stallman's objections to list OpenBSD at the recommended Free
> > Software operating systems, right? More promotion of OpenBSD would be
> > good, right?
>
> His recommendation is as empty as his ideals. They are "Free" from any
> rational thought.
>
> More promotion for OpenBSD is only good if it benefits the project.
> Having a bunch of morons show up is not a goal. We aren't after
> conquering the world unlike some other projects.
>
> >
> > Stopping this childish-tantrum regarding the FSF would also be very much
> > more productive.
>
> It would be nice if people would stop defending non defensible
> hypocritical positions. His arguments are a misleading hyperbole.
>
> >
> > > This discussion all started because Mr. Stallman very publicly
> > > stated that OpenBSD was non-free and distributed non-free software
> > > in it's ports tree.
> >
> > He didn't say OpenBSD was non-free, but that it distributed non-free
> > Software.
>
> Which is inaccurate.
>
> >
> > Looking at
> > ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.2/packages/i386/zangband-2.6.2p1.tgz
> >
> > ... seems to me pretty a pretty clear case.
> >
> > > I am pretty sure he had no knowledge of
> > > zangband and it's non-free license. He was talking about non-free
> > > software in the ports tree.
> >
> > BTW, I think he was (as I frequently happen to by "abuse of language")
> > referring to the packages site, e.g.:
> >
> > http://www.openbsd.org/4.2_packages/i386.html
> >
> > Best,
> > Rui
> >
> > --
> > Grudnuk demand sustenance!
> > Today is Pungenday, the 3rd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3174
> > + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown
> > + Whatever you do will be insignificant,
> > | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi
> > + So let's do it...?
